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azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
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This Is Why I Love Sanchez

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:11 AM

Last night, down a couple of scores in the 4th, you'd expect to be shitting bricks. I was nervous, but it was a good nervous. I wasn't panicked. I knew that if he had the time, Mark was going to drive the offense down the field. That's the big thing about him. His numbers won't wow you, but when the game is on the line, he's as good as anyone. I kept screaming "It's Tone Time" at the TV.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:18 AM

With time in the pocket he'll shed you. 88.1 passer rating, 336 with 2TD's and 1INT is pretty beast. I wonder how Matty Ice and Josh Freeman did? :hysterical:

Mark can throw a football folks. Give the kid some time to set his feet and he'll deliver the football.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:19 AM

He's not a complete QB yet. Giving the jets as a team. But Sanchez flop on a couple plays. That INT was horrible. Should never threw that pass. He needs to learn to throw the ball up to Plax not zip it in front of him. Plax is not going to out run most DBs. He's 6-5. Use the height. That block punt is what started the fire for the jets. Sanchez was average in my book that night. This was a team win
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:28 AM

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.

Had Schotty had his shit together Mark might have threw for 400+.

If you look on the pick, it initially looked like Lee was playing man, meaning Mark was expecting Lee to follow his man. Lee jammed Keller (I believe) then played in his zone. When I saw it, it was just a really good job by Lee. I knew exactly what Mark was thinking and why he threw it. He expected Lee to follow his man, he didn't, jammed and hovered in that same area (zone) and read Marks eyes. Just a really good defensive play. It was like Mark wasn't being reckless.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:39 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.


That's exactly the change we need. last year in 1st halfs he looked average too if not below average. We need complete games. Second half was pretty good from him. he does look more comfortable than last year.

Couple things that didnt' help him:
1. Our oline looked horrible. That can't help you settle down in the pocket and read defenses
2. Cowboys defense looked very confusing. Even watching from tv was difficult to tell who was coming on blitzes.
3. It's week 1. Still some kinks to work out
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:03 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.

Had Schotty had his shit together Mark might have threw for 400+.

If you look on the pick, it initially looked like Lee was playing man, meaning Mark was expecting Lee to follow his man. Lee jammed Keller (I believe) then played in his zone. When I saw it, it was just a really good job by Lee. I knew exactly what Mark was thinking and why he threw it. He expected Lee to follow his man, he didn't, jammed and hovered in that same area (zone) and read Marks eyes. Just a really good defensive play. It was like Mark was being reckless.


Plus, if Mark's pick was bad, Romo's was worse, which shows every good QB in this league is going to have the odd brain freeze. Mark was far better playing from behind than Ben Roethlisberger was yesterday, too. He just doesn't get flustered back there when having to mount a comeback, which - admittedly - he has had to do a lot given how poor the offense typically is in the first half!
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:15 AM

View Posttriple3s, on 12 September 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:

That's exactly the change we need. last year in 1st halfs he looked average too if not below average. We need complete games. Second half was pretty good from him. he does look more comfortable than last year.

Couple things that didnt' help him:
1. Our oline looked horrible. That can't help you settle down in the pocket and read defenses
2. Cowboys defense looked very confusing. Even watching from tv was difficult to tell who was coming on blitzes.
3. It's week 1. Still some kinks to work out


1. Yes, our O-Line did look overwhelmed. We couldnt run it either.

2. I like Sanchezs poise. I think he looked better, and he didnt throw a pic earlier to a wide open Burress when he saw the linebacker drop right into the passing lane. Still want to see hime throw the ball away on his fumble.

3. Shotty is f***ing horrible....I hate to say it, he is gonna cost us some games this year....AGAIN....Sanchez threw for over 200 yards, but a good OC would have torched a injury ridden Dallas Defense.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:20 AM

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:43 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

With time in the pocket he'll shed you. 88.1 passer rating, 336 with 2TD's and 1INT is pretty beast. I wonder how Matty Ice and Josh Freeman did? :hysterical:

Mark can throw a football folks. Give the kid some time to set his feet and he'll deliver the football.

And last night he showed that with absolutely no run game and under constant pressure that he can make plays. Schitty came out with a pretty stupid game plan, I did not like him going spread and leaving Hunter 1 on 1 with Ware. Really I am not mad at Hunter, he did his best against a truly great pass rusher.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:46 AM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 11:20 AM, said:

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.

Jenkins kept coming back in. And 330+ yards is good no matter who you are facing, the Cowboys secondary was banged up but they were bringing a lot of pressure.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:00 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 12 September 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

And last night he showed that with absolutely no run game and under constant pressure that he can make plays. Schitty came out with a pretty stupid game plan, I did not like him going spread and leaving Hunter 1 on 1 with Ware. Really I am not mad at Hunter, he did his best against a truly great pass rusher.


Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:11 AM

Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.


Back to sanchez. He was average. Special team won the game.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:31 AM

View Posttriple3s, on 12 September 2011 - 12:00 PM, said:

Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.

I didn't see that, I saw Ware was on him more often then not. Usually teams will double Ware, but the Jets like to play with 5 linemen which leads to some QB hits when they were doing a lot of blitzes and Ware was dominating.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:57 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.


Seriously!? I hate this crap, when was the last time you can remember a big name free agent RB being worth his new contract? Especially the RB position of all, which is so dependent on the system, offensive line, QB, and is so easily replaceable through the draft.

If Shonn Greene doesn't work out you draft another one...
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 01:08 PM

Reg is telling the hard truth . however everyone saw what had gone on in that game so they will get busy this week for sure . I also think ground and pound is primary and the passing game is a compliment for now. guys we not getting down field on blocks many were standing around watch dallas make plays. that blocked punt was a thing of beauty.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:45 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 11:20 AM, said:

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.


hmmmm that's a tough one to call. Scandrick sucks so I really don't it had anything to do with him being in or out. I just really think we made some really good second half adjustments. Holmes nor Plax caught any balls in the first half really. The pass rush needed to be slowed down so dropping back to pass was difficult. We shored up the pass rush a little better in the second half. No time for Mark early in the game to make plays with Ware all in his ass.

We started to throw double teams at Ware the second half and it fared better for Mark because he started to really get comfortable.

Ware is the baddest pass rusher in the league. He's a freak. Thank God we don't have to play guys of his calibre every week. Hello Jacksonville!!
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:47 PM

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Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.


I thought he was a lot better then that. He was getting beat like a donkey out there. Spencer, Ware, Oprah it didn't matter. I'm definitely concerned.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

[quote name='reg83ny' date='12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM' timestamp='1315843871' post='327772']
Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.
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Greene wasn't even given a chance to do anything last night Reg. He had a total of 10 rushing attempts with most of them coming at the DUMBEST of times. Look at the breakdown. Schitty barely called any run plays in the first half. No back is going to find success when you'r not even attempting to wear out the DL. Schitty got FAR away from the ground and pound that this team has been known for. There was no balance. If we could actually find a balance, it would be nice and I think Greene could produce. This team could be scary if there was a healthy balance.

Sanchez's numbers were average partially because of lousy play calling and the Defense knowing that we were passing before the ball was snapped.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:18 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='12 September 2011 - 01:39 PM' timestamp='1315859999' post='327795']

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.
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Greene wasn't even given a chance to do anything last night Reg. He had a total of 10 rushing attempts with most of them coming at the DUMBEST of times. Look at the breakdown. Schitty barely called any run plays in the first half. No back is going to find success when you'r not even attempting to wear out the DL. Schitty got FAR away from the ground and pound that this team has been known for. There was no balance. If we could actually find a balance, it would be nice and I think Greene could produce. This team could be scary if there was a healthy balance.

Sanchez's numbers were average partially because of lousy play calling and the Defense knowing that we were passing before the ball was snapped.


in all fairness dallas front 7 is beast and their secondary was banged up and beatable. throwing 45 times and rushing 15 was the right balance against them
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 05:04 PM

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in all fairness dallas front 7 is beast and their secondary was banged up and beatable. throwing 45 times and rushing 15 was the right balance against them


I agree that we should have passed more than rushed against a beat up secondary but 45-15 is just too lopsided. Greene never got the chance to get going so our run game went absolutely nowhere. What is missed in all of this is that our run D did a good job of not allowing 100 yards rushing against us again.
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