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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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This Is Why I Love Sanchez

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:11 AM

Last night, down a couple of scores in the 4th, you'd expect to be shitting bricks. I was nervous, but it was a good nervous. I wasn't panicked. I knew that if he had the time, Mark was going to drive the offense down the field. That's the big thing about him. His numbers won't wow you, but when the game is on the line, he's as good as anyone. I kept screaming "It's Tone Time" at the TV.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:18 AM

With time in the pocket he'll shed you. 88.1 passer rating, 336 with 2TD's and 1INT is pretty beast. I wonder how Matty Ice and Josh Freeman did? :hysterical:

Mark can throw a football folks. Give the kid some time to set his feet and he'll deliver the football.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:19 AM

He's not a complete QB yet. Giving the jets as a team. But Sanchez flop on a couple plays. That INT was horrible. Should never threw that pass. He needs to learn to throw the ball up to Plax not zip it in front of him. Plax is not going to out run most DBs. He's 6-5. Use the height. That block punt is what started the fire for the jets. Sanchez was average in my book that night. This was a team win
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:28 AM

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.

Had Schotty had his shit together Mark might have threw for 400+.

If you look on the pick, it initially looked like Lee was playing man, meaning Mark was expecting Lee to follow his man. Lee jammed Keller (I believe) then played in his zone. When I saw it, it was just a really good job by Lee. I knew exactly what Mark was thinking and why he threw it. He expected Lee to follow his man, he didn't, jammed and hovered in that same area (zone) and read Marks eyes. Just a really good defensive play. It was like Mark wasn't being reckless.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:39 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.


That's exactly the change we need. last year in 1st halfs he looked average too if not below average. We need complete games. Second half was pretty good from him. he does look more comfortable than last year.

Couple things that didnt' help him:
1. Our oline looked horrible. That can't help you settle down in the pocket and read defenses
2. Cowboys defense looked very confusing. Even watching from tv was difficult to tell who was coming on blitzes.
3. It's week 1. Still some kinks to work out
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:03 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.

Had Schotty had his shit together Mark might have threw for 400+.

If you look on the pick, it initially looked like Lee was playing man, meaning Mark was expecting Lee to follow his man. Lee jammed Keller (I believe) then played in his zone. When I saw it, it was just a really good job by Lee. I knew exactly what Mark was thinking and why he threw it. He expected Lee to follow his man, he didn't, jammed and hovered in that same area (zone) and read Marks eyes. Just a really good defensive play. It was like Mark was being reckless.


Plus, if Mark's pick was bad, Romo's was worse, which shows every good QB in this league is going to have the odd brain freeze. Mark was far better playing from behind than Ben Roethlisberger was yesterday, too. He just doesn't get flustered back there when having to mount a comeback, which - admittedly - he has had to do a lot given how poor the offense typically is in the first half!
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:15 AM

View Posttriple3s, on 12 September 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:

That's exactly the change we need. last year in 1st halfs he looked average too if not below average. We need complete games. Second half was pretty good from him. he does look more comfortable than last year.

Couple things that didnt' help him:
1. Our oline looked horrible. That can't help you settle down in the pocket and read defenses
2. Cowboys defense looked very confusing. Even watching from tv was difficult to tell who was coming on blitzes.
3. It's week 1. Still some kinks to work out


1. Yes, our O-Line did look overwhelmed. We couldnt run it either.

2. I like Sanchezs poise. I think he looked better, and he didnt throw a pic earlier to a wide open Burress when he saw the linebacker drop right into the passing lane. Still want to see hime throw the ball away on his fumble.

3. Shotty is f***ing horrible....I hate to say it, he is gonna cost us some games this year....AGAIN....Sanchez threw for over 200 yards, but a good OC would have torched a injury ridden Dallas Defense.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:20 AM

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:43 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

With time in the pocket he'll shed you. 88.1 passer rating, 336 with 2TD's and 1INT is pretty beast. I wonder how Matty Ice and Josh Freeman did? :hysterical:

Mark can throw a football folks. Give the kid some time to set his feet and he'll deliver the football.

And last night he showed that with absolutely no run game and under constant pressure that he can make plays. Schitty came out with a pretty stupid game plan, I did not like him going spread and leaving Hunter 1 on 1 with Ware. Really I am not mad at Hunter, he did his best against a truly great pass rusher.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:46 AM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 11:20 AM, said:

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.

Jenkins kept coming back in. And 330+ yards is good no matter who you are facing, the Cowboys secondary was banged up but they were bringing a lot of pressure.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:00 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 12 September 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

And last night he showed that with absolutely no run game and under constant pressure that he can make plays. Schitty came out with a pretty stupid game plan, I did not like him going spread and leaving Hunter 1 on 1 with Ware. Really I am not mad at Hunter, he did his best against a truly great pass rusher.


Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:11 AM

Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.


Back to sanchez. He was average. Special team won the game.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:31 AM

View Posttriple3s, on 12 September 2011 - 12:00 PM, said:

Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.

I didn't see that, I saw Ware was on him more often then not. Usually teams will double Ware, but the Jets like to play with 5 linemen which leads to some QB hits when they were doing a lot of blitzes and Ware was dominating.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:57 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.


Seriously!? I hate this crap, when was the last time you can remember a big name free agent RB being worth his new contract? Especially the RB position of all, which is so dependent on the system, offensive line, QB, and is so easily replaceable through the draft.

If Shonn Greene doesn't work out you draft another one...
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 01:08 PM

Reg is telling the hard truth . however everyone saw what had gone on in that game so they will get busy this week for sure . I also think ground and pound is primary and the passing game is a compliment for now. guys we not getting down field on blocks many were standing around watch dallas make plays. that blocked punt was a thing of beauty.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:45 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 11:20 AM, said:

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.


hmmmm that's a tough one to call. Scandrick sucks so I really don't it had anything to do with him being in or out. I just really think we made some really good second half adjustments. Holmes nor Plax caught any balls in the first half really. The pass rush needed to be slowed down so dropping back to pass was difficult. We shored up the pass rush a little better in the second half. No time for Mark early in the game to make plays with Ware all in his ass.

We started to throw double teams at Ware the second half and it fared better for Mark because he started to really get comfortable.

Ware is the baddest pass rusher in the league. He's a freak. Thank God we don't have to play guys of his calibre every week. Hello Jacksonville!!
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:47 PM

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Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.


I thought he was a lot better then that. He was getting beat like a donkey out there. Spencer, Ware, Oprah it didn't matter. I'm definitely concerned.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

[quote name='reg83ny' date='12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM' timestamp='1315843871' post='327772']
Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.
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Greene wasn't even given a chance to do anything last night Reg. He had a total of 10 rushing attempts with most of them coming at the DUMBEST of times. Look at the breakdown. Schitty barely called any run plays in the first half. No back is going to find success when you'r not even attempting to wear out the DL. Schitty got FAR away from the ground and pound that this team has been known for. There was no balance. If we could actually find a balance, it would be nice and I think Greene could produce. This team could be scary if there was a healthy balance.

Sanchez's numbers were average partially because of lousy play calling and the Defense knowing that we were passing before the ball was snapped.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:18 PM

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View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.
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Greene wasn't even given a chance to do anything last night Reg. He had a total of 10 rushing attempts with most of them coming at the DUMBEST of times. Look at the breakdown. Schitty barely called any run plays in the first half. No back is going to find success when you'r not even attempting to wear out the DL. Schitty got FAR away from the ground and pound that this team has been known for. There was no balance. If we could actually find a balance, it would be nice and I think Greene could produce. This team could be scary if there was a healthy balance.

Sanchez's numbers were average partially because of lousy play calling and the Defense knowing that we were passing before the ball was snapped.


in all fairness dallas front 7 is beast and their secondary was banged up and beatable. throwing 45 times and rushing 15 was the right balance against them
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 05:04 PM

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in all fairness dallas front 7 is beast and their secondary was banged up and beatable. throwing 45 times and rushing 15 was the right balance against them


I agree that we should have passed more than rushed against a beat up secondary but 45-15 is just too lopsided. Greene never got the chance to get going so our run game went absolutely nowhere. What is missed in all of this is that our run D did a good job of not allowing 100 yards rushing against us again.
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