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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 11:59 PM) yeah but hes white and a patriot
santana Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) goodell is busy banning handbags from stadiums
santana Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) this country is priming its self for a massive protest this handbag shit is retarded
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:01 AM) They are so f***ing stupid
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:01 AM) Like people need more reasons to stay at home for the game
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:02 AM) Honestly, at this point, the only way I'd go to an NFL game was A. Free tickets B. Tickets were close enough to the field that I felt like I could heckle a player and be heard
santana Icon : (Today, 12:02 AM) its not stupid its actually genius
santana Icon : (Today, 12:02 AM) the problem is i know for sure the evil genius behind it is dan snyder and other owners pushing for this shit
santana Icon : (Today, 12:02 AM) they want their new stadiums to inhale your money from the minute you enter its zipcode
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) Genius in the sense that you force people to spend more money
santana Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) right
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) Baseball stadiums started doing this since right after 9/11
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) I used to go to Mets games as a kid with a subway hero
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) Now I gotta drop $30 for a burger with fries
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) You know what I do? Not go to the fuckin games LOL
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) And it's not just me because the Mets suck, Yankees can't sell out anymore at all
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) Shit, even Mets vs Yankees wasn't sold out
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) That never happened in the 90s
santana Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) ghetto fries
santana Icon : (Today, 12:05 AM) whats amusing is at nationals stadium the staff is the worst
santana Icon : (Today, 12:05 AM) they don't give a shit
santana Icon : (Today, 12:05 AM) specially sunday morning
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) How so?
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) Do they make you watch the Nationals?
santana Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) every time they handed me my food or what not then i had to go to the register to pay i just walked away because the queue was too long
santana Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) people running the registers just go super slow
santana Icon : (Today, 12:07 AM) no one there is in charge of making sure the customers are following the process
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:11 AM) Wait, you pay after you get your food?
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:11 AM) How does that even work?
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:11 AM) Everywhere you pay when you place your order
santana Icon : (Today, 12:12 AM) well its decided getting some booze tomorrow afternoon and drinking every time i head lebron's head band referenced
santana Icon : (Today, 12:12 AM) like i said the concession stands are a mess
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:12 AM) You might die
santana Icon : (Today, 12:12 AM) there were multiple people behind the counter
santana Icon : (Today, 12:13 AM) so you could just go up to it and ask for what you wanted and 1 out of the 5 people would be on a single register
santana Icon : (Today, 12:13 AM) so eventually you were just handed your food
santana Icon : (Today, 12:13 AM) expecting for someone to approach the register you were standing infront to charge you
santana Icon : (Today, 12:13 AM) or you were led to believe maybe you had to go line up to the one that had a cashier with people already waiting on it
santana Icon : (Today, 12:14 AM) so a lot of the times when i was just handed the food i requested i would stand there look around see them go back to being distracted on their boost mobile phones or whatever reason and walked away
santana Icon : (Today, 12:14 AM) i got 6 pretzels like this for the group i was with and 3 hot dogs
santana Icon : (Today, 12:15 AM) my ticket one time had like 5$ towards concessions or what not their scanner wasnt working at the register so it wasnt reading it right or she didnt know what she was doing. she tried to scan it 3 times then litterally just turned away so i was standing there asking if it was all good no one answered so i just walked away with the food
santana Icon : (Today, 12:18 AM) probably doesn't help that they are hiring people from one of the worst parts of dc
santana Icon : (Today, 12:19 AM) in fact all the stadiums in dc are in very low income areas probably to exploit this work force
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:31 AM) No stadiums are in low income areas because that's how they get municipal bonds to finance construction. "Look, we're giving black people jobs! Pay for our stadium!!!"
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Obama Makes Bad $535 Million Loan http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/exactly-happened-goverment-solyndr

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 05:23 PM

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The big story marring President Obama's jobs tour Wednesday is the $535 million loan his administration doled out to Solyndra, a solar panel company that has just gone belly-up, leaving taxpayers on the hook.

President Barack Obama visited the facility in May 2010, and said it was "leading the way toward a brighter and more prosperous future." But only a month later, the company laid off 100 employees and cancelled its plans for a public stock offering. Two weeks ago, it filed for Chapter 11 and fired 1,000 workers. FBI agents promptly raided the company's California offices.

So what exactly happened? And how big will the fallout be for Obama?

The accusation

Republicans on the House and Energy Commission are accusing the Obama administration of ignoring multiple warning signs that Solyndra was a bad bet. The Commission lays out its case against the administration's handling of the loan in a report released Wednesday, following a months-long investigation.

Under the Bush administration, the Department of Energy rejected Solyndra for a loan in early 2009, worrying that the company didn't have good long-term prospects. Yet only two months later, Obama's newly appointed Energy Secretary Steven Chu announced the government would give the company a $535 million loan, funded with money from the stimulus. Last year, government accountability investigators criticized the White House for scheduling a groundbreaking at a Solyndra plant before the Energy Department had even finished filing all its paperwork. "This deal is NOT ready for prime time," a White House budget analyst wrote only nine days before the agreement was announced.

At issue are two main things. One, emails obtained by the Center for Public Integrity show that White House officials asked the Department of Energy to make a decision on the Solyndra loan so that they would know whether they could schedule President Obama for a visit to the facility to publicize the loan. Republicans say this is evidence that the White House pressured the Energy Department, or used undue influence, to approve the loan before they knew whether it was a good bet. Republicans also mention that a big private backer of the deal, Oklahoma billionaire George Kaiser, also raised money for Obama's 2008 campaign.

The second accusation is that once the loan went through, the Obama administration ignored warning signs that the company was failing and then refinanced the loan in a way that left taxpayers twisting in the wind. A few days before the groundbreaking on the new Solyndra facility in September 2009, a Department of Energy official completed an analysis that concluded the company would run out of cash by September of 2011--a forecast that turned out to be right on the mark.

But it wasn't until last February that the government decided Solyndra was about to default, and refinanced the company's original loan with the help of $75 million from private investors. As part of the deal, the government agreed that if Solyndra ever went bankrupt, it would have to pay back the $75 million to investors first, ahead of disbursing any money back to the taxpayers.

Center for Public Integrity reporter Ronnie Greene told The Lookout that Republican members of the subcommittee suggested Wednesday that cutting such a deal was illegal, in violation of a provision of the Clean Air act.

Jeffrey Zients, deputy director of the Office of Management and Budget, defended the restructuring at the hearing Wednesday, arguing that it was less costly to taxpayers than liquidation or any other option would be.

The White House's defense

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Wednesday that the White House did not try to accelerate the approval process for the loan in any improper way. "What the emails make clear is there was urgency to make a decision on a scheduling matter. It is a big proposition to move the president or to put on an event and that sort of thing so people were simply looking for answers about whether or not people could move forward," Carney told reporters. "It had nothing to--and there is no evidence to the contrary--nothing to do with anything besides the need to get an answer to make a scheduling decision," he said.

Democrats on the panel, meanwhile, tried to deflect blame to the Solyndra executives themselves, arguing that company officials misled them about Solyndra's financial situation in July.

"I'm perplexed how they can be in my office in July telling me things are looking better and two months later filing for bankruptcy," Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), the top Democrat on the committee's oversight panel, said, according to The Hill.

The FBI won't say why it raided Solyndra's offices, and later searched executives' homes.

The top Energy Department and Office of Management and Budget officials at the panel said the Bush administration had also looked into giving the company money and that all such investments are risks. Zients, of the Office of Management and Budget, stressed that an independent credit rating agency and experts had examined the company before it was approved for the loan.

"Some of America's most sophisticated professional investors collectively invested nearly a billion dollars in the company after conducting extensive due diligence of their own," Jonathan Silver of the Energy Department testified.

Potential fallout?

The most obvious consequence of the Solyndra fiasco is that the government is going to lose some cash. According to the Washington Post, taxpayers will pick up the tab for the loan if Solyndra can't repay it. "The Energy Department could seek repayment in court, but receiving more than a nominal amount is unlikely because of the company's depleted cash and assets," the Post reports.

The legal implications of the case are less clear. Since the FBI won't disclose the reasons for raiding Solyndra's offices, the nature of the agency's investigation is unclear. Democratic lawmakers have suggested that the company misrepresented its financial situation to Congress.

Meanwhile, Republican lawmakers suggested that the February refinancing of the loan providing for private investors to be paid back before the government may be illegal. But that's far from certain, according to Greene.

In the short term, the controversy has spurred calls to roll back or regulate Obama's green jobs program. Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) floated legislation Wednesday to require all renewable energy companies that received a loan from the U.S. government in the past two years to undergo an audit, the Hill reported.
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Posted 15 September 2011 - 11:58 PM

What does Obama know about making money? He went from being a student to academia to politics. The only shocking part about it is that it was only half a billion.
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Posted 16 September 2011 - 12:38 AM

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The top Energy Department and Office of Management and Budget officials at the panel said the Bush administration had also looked into giving the company money and that all such investments are risks. Zients, of the Office of Management and Budget, stressed that an independent credit rating agency and experts had examined the company before it was approved for the loan.

"Some of America's most sophisticated professional investors collectively invested nearly a billion dollars in the company after conducting extensive due diligence of their own," Jonathan Silver of the Energy Department testified.


If this holds up to be true I don't get what the big deal is
535 mil is a lot of money to invest but these investments when they work out will drive the country forward

Seems like solyndra didn't hold up their end and is a good sign why business in America is suffering
Even after a cash infusion those fuckers couldn't get their shit together
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Posted 17 September 2011 - 08:29 PM

View Postsantana, on 15 September 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:

If this holds up to be true I don't get what the big deal is
535 mil is a lot of money to invest but these investments when they work out will drive the country forward

Seems like solyndra didn't hold up their end and is a good sign why business in America is suffering
Even after a cash infusion those fuckers couldn't get their shit together


its cause the people at the top (ceo, vp, president, cfo, controller, etc) are greedy and take huge salaries for no reason. there is no reason a vp should make more then 30k a year more then the person below them. but they give themselves a 5 mil a year salary for vanity and it drains money from the company
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:00 PM

http://www.zerohedge...cfo-plead-fifth

When the FBI raids your offices, it's not because you gave yourself a big bonus.
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Posted 30 September 2011 - 06:30 PM

It's just a shame that Obama can't be charged with anything regarding this. He basically gave away 535 million after being told it's a bad bet. BUT....since it was funded by the stimulus package he went even further and had it hidden in there claiming the money was goignt o the American taxpayers. Really? Sounds to me like some old college buddies got a nice payday from Obama.
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