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azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 05:47 PM

I watched all those type of shows my whole life . one step beyond ,chiller , in search of , to many to recall right now. think more like Moses passing down knowledge by word of mouth.
maybe some of you guys can chime in it would be fun.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:34 PM

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Bank of America fee retraction shows effect of consumer rage
By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY

Consumer rage in an electronic age has corporate titans doing something few have so willingly done before: back-pedaling.

When Bank of America announced Tuesday that it was nixing its widely panned plan to charge consumers a monthly $5 debit card fee, it joined a handful of other familiar banks that also had back-pedaled. The unusual moves follow a recent, customer-instigated about-face by Netflix, which scrapped plans to split into two businesses and ultimately charge customers more.

"Every company is now sitting on electronic quicksand," says Howard Rubenstein, the famed New York PR guru. "It may look like solid ground, but one wrong move and you're up to your chin."

Some see it as the Occupy Wall Street of the no-longer-silent majority. Most corporations only become aware of the wallop of this emerging consumer power when they make a serious mistake and fall victim to it. This new, power-to-the-grumbler movement is only going to grow.

There's a considerable price to be paid in damaged reputation — and lost business — to companies that don't pay heed. Some $58 billion in transactions may be at risk from Americans who had a problem with a product or service purchased within the last year, estimates a study due out today from the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University.

"Most companies don't handle problems well," says Mary Jo Bitner, the business professor who oversaw the study. "And that only gets people more enraged." Behind the banter:

•Social media explosion. "For the first time ever, the volume of response is now visible because of social media," branding consultant Martin Lindstrom says.

For example, Consumers Union reached out to 780,000 people on its opt-in list following the original BofA debit card fee announcement, and some 40,000 of them asked for a congressional investigation into the fees, says Norma Garcia, manager of the watchdog group's financial services program. "The bigger message is: consumers matter," she says.

•Frustrated consumers. The sheer number of people experiencing serious problems with companies, products or services keeps growing, Bitner says. The figure, which should be declining, she says, instead ballooned this year to 45% of consumers from 32% in 1976.

•A chance to matter. Many consumers are anxious about their jobs; angry about their salaries and increased workloads; upset about climbing health care costs; and worried about their mortgages, notes Bitner. She says there's still one thing under their control: the chance to speak out.

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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:43 PM

That is the way it should be. The consumer dictates the terms of the product. Not an overgrown out of control government.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 11:31 PM

porkin a girly from the bank
she was giving me some insight on her meetings about these new policies they are trying to enforce

apparently their whole angle to the fees is to steer customers to use their credit cards. so if you go to ur bank and bitch about fees they will tell you to apply for their credit card. that way you can spend what you want on it and pay it at the end of the month. yeah so for you to freely spend your money they are trying to get you to open a credit line with them. total money grab. its a good business tactic but come on fuck off.

not only do they want to potentially add fees per transaction on a debit card
they are considering adding limits to your debit card every month so say you can only spend 300$ on ur debit then you are charged a fee for going over the 300 like 5 bucks or whatever
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 01:19 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 01 November 2011 - 10:43 PM, said:

That is the way it should be. The consumer dictates the terms of the product. Not an overgrown out of control government.


Yeah it was the government's fault that Bank of America wanted to charge it's costumers a $5 debit card fee. Yep Obama, Plouffe, and Daley cooked that one up right there in the oval office. :rolleyes: There's a reason why it's called Occupy Wall Street and not Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue. The protesters know when Wall Street says "jump", the government says "yes massa, through which hoop?."
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:15 AM

View Postsantana, on 01 November 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

porkin a girly from the bank
she was giving me some insight on her meetings about these new policies they are trying to enforce

apparently their whole angle to the fees is to steer customers to use their credit cards. so if you go to ur bank and bitch about fees they will tell you to apply for their credit card. that way you can spend what you want on it and pay it at the end of the month. yeah so for you to freely spend your money they are trying to get you to open a credit line with them. total money grab. its a good business tactic but come on fuck off.

not only do they want to potentially add fees per transaction on a debit card
they are considering adding limits to your debit card every month so say you can only spend 300$ on ur debit then you are charged a fee for going over the 300 like 5 bucks or whatever


Thats Such BS. they don't want you to access your own money? What BS
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:14 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 02 November 2011 - 01:19 AM, said:

Yeah it was the government's fault that Bank of America wanted to charge it's costumers a $5 debit card fee. Yep Obama, Plouffe, and Daley cooked that one up right there in the oval office. :rolleyes: There's a reason why it's called Occupy Wall Street and not Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue. The protesters know when Wall Street says "jump", the government says "yes massa, through which hoop?."

I think you missed the point.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:44 PM

View Postsantana, on 01 November 2011 - 11:31 PM, said:

porkin a girly from the bank
she was giving me some insight on her meetings about these new policies they are trying to enforce

apparently their whole angle to the fees is to steer customers to use their credit cards. so if you go to ur bank and bitch about fees they will tell you to apply for their credit card. that way you can spend what you want on it and pay it at the end of the month. yeah so for you to freely spend your money they are trying to get you to open a credit line with them. total money grab. its a good business tactic but come on f*** off.

not only do they want to potentially add fees per transaction on a debit card
they are considering adding limits to your debit card every month so say you can only spend 300$ on ur debit then you are charged a fee for going over the 300 like 5 bucks or whatever

If there whole angle was to steer people into using there CC they would not tell a retail associate. More than likely this was a poor job of a branch manager trying to show X-Sell opportunities. Also the banks make the same exchange rate on Debit card purchases when a PIN # is not used as they do CC transactions. Its only when you use your PIN # does the bank loose out on some of the exchange fee (then it goes to the processor). Also most banks do not house there own CCs. BofA, Wells and Citi may be the only ones that do. No profit there from interest for the rest. Also a bank could care less if you have $20,000 or $100. Banks can no longer make money by storing your money. Most banks and Unions have all the capital they need to fund loans aquire banks ect without your deposits. With the secondary market buying loans as fast as the banks and unions can make them they will never run out of capital. Also the Fed is paying banks 0% right now so there is only cost to banks for people who have accounts (Paying FDIC,overhead,fraud transactions ect). This is where the fees comes in. More than likely your girl was mislead by a poor manager or was not catching all the info.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:38 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 November 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

I think you missed the point.


My point was that Bank of America went for a greedy money grab and the government had nothing to do with it...well other than being an enabler.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:26 AM

Bank of America has got to be one of the biggest jokes in the country. They've backed down from their debit card monthly fee, but no matter what they are still THE single greediest bank in this country. They took billions from the bailout only to give money to their execs and then export another billion plus in jobs to India for the second time in about ten years.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:27 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 02 November 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:

My point was that Bank of America went for a greedy money grab and the government had nothing to do with it...well other than being an enabler.


Ummmm OK. Not sure where you are going with that. My point was we the people should be dictating terms set by retailers by what we buy/use. You can pick whatever company you want.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 01:15 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 November 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

If there whole angle was to steer people into using there CC they would not tell a retail associate. More than likely this was a poor job of a branch manager trying to show X-Sell opportunities. Also the banks make the same exchange rate on Debit card purchases when a PIN # is not used as they do CC transactions. Its only when you use your PIN # does the bank loose out on some of the exchange fee (then it goes to the processor). Also most banks do not house there own CCs. BofA, Wells and Citi may be the only ones that do. No profit there from interest for the rest. Also a bank could care less if you have $20,000 or $100. Banks can no longer make money by storing your money. Most banks and Unions have all the capital they need to fund loans aquire banks ect without your deposits. With the secondary market buying loans as fast as the banks and unions can make them they will never run out of capital. Also the Fed is paying banks 0% right now so there is only cost to banks for people who have accounts (Paying FDIC,overhead,fraud transactions ect). This is where the fees comes in. More than likely your girl was mislead by a poor manager or was not catching all the info.


Agreed
most likely just a x-sell tactic
Generate more business using their own fees to their advantage
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 03:05 PM

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 04:48 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 03:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.


There is alot of truth in that statement. Wall Street should not be singled out though.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 04:53 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.




*edit* Just to echo, it isn't solely Wall Street's/big business that corrupted and all but killed the country. Their political enablers are to blame as well. Every single one of them.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:48 PM

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:14 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone



None of the protesting is going to make a damn bit of difference though considering the American general population does not elect the new president.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:05 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 03 November 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

None of the protesting is going to make a damn bit of difference though considering the American general population does not elect the new president.


But how would you resolve this issue? Abolish the Electoral College? Amend the Constitution to ensure that the Presidential Electors follow the popular?

Not that I think either proposal could reach a serious level in Congress, let alone be passed.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:15 PM

There will never be a fix because the people who fix it are mostly on the take. What George said is true. And its both sides of the fence. Where is Ross Perot?
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:06 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.


I think I remember McCain running on a platform of changing campaign financing. Too bad we got Change instead.
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