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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 05:47 PM

I watched all those type of shows my whole life . one step beyond ,chiller , in search of , to many to recall right now. think more like Moses passing down knowledge by word of mouth.
maybe some of you guys can chime in it would be fun.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:34 PM

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Bank of America fee retraction shows effect of consumer rage
By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY

Consumer rage in an electronic age has corporate titans doing something few have so willingly done before: back-pedaling.

When Bank of America announced Tuesday that it was nixing its widely panned plan to charge consumers a monthly $5 debit card fee, it joined a handful of other familiar banks that also had back-pedaled. The unusual moves follow a recent, customer-instigated about-face by Netflix, which scrapped plans to split into two businesses and ultimately charge customers more.

"Every company is now sitting on electronic quicksand," says Howard Rubenstein, the famed New York PR guru. "It may look like solid ground, but one wrong move and you're up to your chin."

Some see it as the Occupy Wall Street of the no-longer-silent majority. Most corporations only become aware of the wallop of this emerging consumer power when they make a serious mistake and fall victim to it. This new, power-to-the-grumbler movement is only going to grow.

There's a considerable price to be paid in damaged reputation — and lost business — to companies that don't pay heed. Some $58 billion in transactions may be at risk from Americans who had a problem with a product or service purchased within the last year, estimates a study due out today from the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University.

"Most companies don't handle problems well," says Mary Jo Bitner, the business professor who oversaw the study. "And that only gets people more enraged." Behind the banter:

•Social media explosion. "For the first time ever, the volume of response is now visible because of social media," branding consultant Martin Lindstrom says.

For example, Consumers Union reached out to 780,000 people on its opt-in list following the original BofA debit card fee announcement, and some 40,000 of them asked for a congressional investigation into the fees, says Norma Garcia, manager of the watchdog group's financial services program. "The bigger message is: consumers matter," she says.

•Frustrated consumers. The sheer number of people experiencing serious problems with companies, products or services keeps growing, Bitner says. The figure, which should be declining, she says, instead ballooned this year to 45% of consumers from 32% in 1976.

•A chance to matter. Many consumers are anxious about their jobs; angry about their salaries and increased workloads; upset about climbing health care costs; and worried about their mortgages, notes Bitner. She says there's still one thing under their control: the chance to speak out.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:43 PM

That is the way it should be. The consumer dictates the terms of the product. Not an overgrown out of control government.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 11:31 PM

porkin a girly from the bank
she was giving me some insight on her meetings about these new policies they are trying to enforce

apparently their whole angle to the fees is to steer customers to use their credit cards. so if you go to ur bank and bitch about fees they will tell you to apply for their credit card. that way you can spend what you want on it and pay it at the end of the month. yeah so for you to freely spend your money they are trying to get you to open a credit line with them. total money grab. its a good business tactic but come on fuck off.

not only do they want to potentially add fees per transaction on a debit card
they are considering adding limits to your debit card every month so say you can only spend 300$ on ur debit then you are charged a fee for going over the 300 like 5 bucks or whatever
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 01:19 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 01 November 2011 - 10:43 PM, said:

That is the way it should be. The consumer dictates the terms of the product. Not an overgrown out of control government.


Yeah it was the government's fault that Bank of America wanted to charge it's costumers a $5 debit card fee. Yep Obama, Plouffe, and Daley cooked that one up right there in the oval office. :rolleyes: There's a reason why it's called Occupy Wall Street and not Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue. The protesters know when Wall Street says "jump", the government says "yes massa, through which hoop?."

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:15 AM

View Postsantana, on 01 November 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

porkin a girly from the bank
she was giving me some insight on her meetings about these new policies they are trying to enforce

apparently their whole angle to the fees is to steer customers to use their credit cards. so if you go to ur bank and bitch about fees they will tell you to apply for their credit card. that way you can spend what you want on it and pay it at the end of the month. yeah so for you to freely spend your money they are trying to get you to open a credit line with them. total money grab. its a good business tactic but come on fuck off.

not only do they want to potentially add fees per transaction on a debit card
they are considering adding limits to your debit card every month so say you can only spend 300$ on ur debit then you are charged a fee for going over the 300 like 5 bucks or whatever


Thats Such BS. they don't want you to access your own money? What BS
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:14 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 02 November 2011 - 01:19 AM, said:

Yeah it was the government's fault that Bank of America wanted to charge it's costumers a $5 debit card fee. Yep Obama, Plouffe, and Daley cooked that one up right there in the oval office. :rolleyes: There's a reason why it's called Occupy Wall Street and not Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue. The protesters know when Wall Street says "jump", the government says "yes massa, through which hoop?."

I think you missed the point.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:44 PM

View Postsantana, on 01 November 2011 - 11:31 PM, said:

porkin a girly from the bank
she was giving me some insight on her meetings about these new policies they are trying to enforce

apparently their whole angle to the fees is to steer customers to use their credit cards. so if you go to ur bank and bitch about fees they will tell you to apply for their credit card. that way you can spend what you want on it and pay it at the end of the month. yeah so for you to freely spend your money they are trying to get you to open a credit line with them. total money grab. its a good business tactic but come on f*** off.

not only do they want to potentially add fees per transaction on a debit card
they are considering adding limits to your debit card every month so say you can only spend 300$ on ur debit then you are charged a fee for going over the 300 like 5 bucks or whatever

If there whole angle was to steer people into using there CC they would not tell a retail associate. More than likely this was a poor job of a branch manager trying to show X-Sell opportunities. Also the banks make the same exchange rate on Debit card purchases when a PIN # is not used as they do CC transactions. Its only when you use your PIN # does the bank loose out on some of the exchange fee (then it goes to the processor). Also most banks do not house there own CCs. BofA, Wells and Citi may be the only ones that do. No profit there from interest for the rest. Also a bank could care less if you have $20,000 or $100. Banks can no longer make money by storing your money. Most banks and Unions have all the capital they need to fund loans aquire banks ect without your deposits. With the secondary market buying loans as fast as the banks and unions can make them they will never run out of capital. Also the Fed is paying banks 0% right now so there is only cost to banks for people who have accounts (Paying FDIC,overhead,fraud transactions ect). This is where the fees comes in. More than likely your girl was mislead by a poor manager or was not catching all the info.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:38 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 November 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

I think you missed the point.


My point was that Bank of America went for a greedy money grab and the government had nothing to do with it...well other than being an enabler.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:26 AM

Bank of America has got to be one of the biggest jokes in the country. They've backed down from their debit card monthly fee, but no matter what they are still THE single greediest bank in this country. They took billions from the bailout only to give money to their execs and then export another billion plus in jobs to India for the second time in about ten years.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:27 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 02 November 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:

My point was that Bank of America went for a greedy money grab and the government had nothing to do with it...well other than being an enabler.


Ummmm OK. Not sure where you are going with that. My point was we the people should be dictating terms set by retailers by what we buy/use. You can pick whatever company you want.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 01:15 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 02 November 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

If there whole angle was to steer people into using there CC they would not tell a retail associate. More than likely this was a poor job of a branch manager trying to show X-Sell opportunities. Also the banks make the same exchange rate on Debit card purchases when a PIN # is not used as they do CC transactions. Its only when you use your PIN # does the bank loose out on some of the exchange fee (then it goes to the processor). Also most banks do not house there own CCs. BofA, Wells and Citi may be the only ones that do. No profit there from interest for the rest. Also a bank could care less if you have $20,000 or $100. Banks can no longer make money by storing your money. Most banks and Unions have all the capital they need to fund loans aquire banks ect without your deposits. With the secondary market buying loans as fast as the banks and unions can make them they will never run out of capital. Also the Fed is paying banks 0% right now so there is only cost to banks for people who have accounts (Paying FDIC,overhead,fraud transactions ect). This is where the fees comes in. More than likely your girl was mislead by a poor manager or was not catching all the info.


Agreed
most likely just a x-sell tactic
Generate more business using their own fees to their advantage
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 03:05 PM

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 04:48 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 03:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.


There is alot of truth in that statement. Wall Street should not be singled out though.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 04:53 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.




*edit* Just to echo, it isn't solely Wall Street's/big business that corrupted and all but killed the country. Their political enablers are to blame as well. Every single one of them.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:48 PM

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:14 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone



None of the protesting is going to make a damn bit of difference though considering the American general population does not elect the new president.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:05 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 03 November 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

None of the protesting is going to make a damn bit of difference though considering the American general population does not elect the new president.


But how would you resolve this issue? Abolish the Electoral College? Amend the Constitution to ensure that the Presidential Electors follow the popular?

Not that I think either proposal could reach a serious level in Congress, let alone be passed.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:15 PM

There will never be a fix because the people who fix it are mostly on the take. What George said is true. And its both sides of the fence. Where is Ross Perot?
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:06 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 03 November 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

What's sad is within the next year 2 BILLION dollars will be spent just on the presidential election by both campaigns alone, and most of that money is going to come from Wall Street. And that's not counting congressional and state and local races. Yet we can't afford to rebuild this country's aging infrastructure and keep from laying off cops, firefighters, and teachers? It doesn't matter who's in the White House, it doesn't matter who is Speaker of the House. The entire system is fucked up. I'm just glad people have finally started protesting this corrupted of system.


I think I remember McCain running on a platform of changing campaign financing. Too bad we got Change instead.
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