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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:42 AM

I, like many others felt that the drafting of Mark Sanchez was a good move, but even with his success in the playoffs, I'm pretty sure he's not going to be the guy to get us to the Promised Land. As I watched the games yesterday, it's more apparent that Sanchez doesn't have it. There's a hitch, a hesitation, a tentativeness every time he drops back to pass and that's a major issue. He's not big enough or strong enough and quite frankly, it's amazing that he hasn't been killed yet given the number of hits he's taken.

The Jets didn't lose solely due to the performance of Sanchez...we all know about Schotty, a receiving corps with amazing ability, yet all they do is talk and tweet, an offensive line that is simply, OFFENSIVE, a defensive line that does not have within it a true pass rusher, linebackers, for the most part who are ordinary. We do not seemingly have playmakers. Watching the Packers game last night, I saw it...slashing rushes, great catches and then receivers making plays to shake lose for big gains. Where was Keller yesterday...not even sure if a ball was thrown in his direction. What about kicking games yesterday...can you say, bring Steve Weatherford back?

Surely we're probably too talented to end up in the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes, but I think the Sanchez experiment which is now 4 years old (I know, he's still young...problem is that you can't teach size and strength) and it might be time.
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:49 AM

I'm behind sanchez at this point because we really don't have a choice, but when we drafted him I was pretty upset. Didn't think he'd be an elite QB then, still don't think he will be. He's impressed me here and there but I'm worried he'll never be the game to game consistent QB you hope to get when you draft a guy in the top 5. As far as I see it, sanchez's peak value is a jeff garcia when he was with the niners.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 10:39 AM

Very good comparison to Garcia. Good, but not good enough. Trouble is the team has invested so much in him that I think they'd be more than apprehensive to pull the plug on him after 4 seasons.


View Postextmenace, on 10 October 2011 - 10:49 AM, said:

I'm behind sanchez at this point because we really don't have a choice, but when we drafted him I was pretty upset. Didn't think he'd be an elite QB then, still don't think he will be. He's impressed me here and there but I'm worried he'll never be the game to game consistent QB you hope to get when you draft a guy in the top 5. As far as I see it, sanchez's peak value is a jeff garcia when he was with the niners.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 10:57 AM

There is absolutely no chance that this team has the 1st overall pick... We just completed the TOUGHEST stretch of games for this season, 3 games on the road against possibly 3 playoff teams. We need to fire Schottenheimer, get a talented RB that can make plays, and get a young WR that can get separation.
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:49 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 10 October 2011 - 08:57 AM, said:

There is absolutely no chance that this team has the 1st overall pick... We just completed the TOUGHEST stretch of games for this season, 3 games on the road against possibly 3 playoff teams. We need to fire Schottenheimer, get a talented RB that can make plays, and get a young WR that can get separation.


exactly. i can see alot of teams vying for the pcik including miami, minnesota, colts, seahwaks all worse then us and all could take luck
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 01:33 PM

Sorry but Andrew Luck isn't happening. As critical I am of Sanchez I look at Brees and Rivers and both turned into studs after leaving Schotty. I'm not going to give up on Sanchez until I at least see him with another O.C.

Were 2-3 and going to Miami next week. Buffalo will go through their rough patch this year, Pats will lose some games. We'll be right in the thick of it come playoff time. Relax!
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:09 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 10 October 2011 - 07:33 PM, said:

Sorry but Andrew Luck isn't happening. As critical I am of Sanchez I look at Brees and Rivers and both turned into studs after leaving Schotty. I'm not going to give up on Sanchez until I at least see him with another O.C.

Were 2-3 and going to Miami next week. Buffalo will go through their rough patch this year, Pats will lose some games. We'll be right in the thick of it come playoff time. Relax!


Spot on. We're one game under .500, not five. That three game road trip is arguably the toughest stretch of games for us this season. It's disappointing to be 2-3, but we're in that middle pack of AFC teams, only a game behind the likes of Pittsburgh, Oakland and Houston.
If we were 0-5 then yes you could start talking about Luck. But thankfully we're not.
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:16 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 10 October 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

Spot on. We're one game under .500, not five. That three game road trip is arguably the toughest stretch of games for us this season. It's disappointing to be 2-3, but we're in that middle pack of AFC teams, only a game behind the likes of Pittsburgh, Oakland and Houston.
If we were 0-5 then yes you could start talking about Luck. But thankfully we're not.


Bang Bang!!

We'll beat up Miami then go in to the Charger game smashing on all cylinders with tons of confidence and be 4-3 going into the bye. We got through our rough patch. Were at home this week.

One thing I thing the Jets missed was their summer road trip to Florham park. I think that really hurt us. All the team has is each other for an entire month. We'll have it next year and Sanchez in his 4th year.

This season is far from over. If the Jets struggles now mean were a better team later this year then sign me up.

Rex is still a great coach and motivator. We still have a very good defense and hopefully the offense can find themselves.
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 05:04 PM

Schotty and his system are still here. I won't give up on Sanchez while that worthless thing is still calling the shots on offense. Even so, we are going to win at worst 6 games this season, which would take us completely out of the 'Suck for Luck' sweeps.
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 08:05 PM

View Poststu23, on 10 October 2011 - 10:42 AM, said:

Where was Keller yesterday...not even sure if a ball was thrown in his direction.

I may not be as smart as Schotty but I do notice that every time we get Keller involved early and often, he has a good game and it opens up other options for the offense. On the other hand, when we don't do that, the exact opposite happens (yesterday!). I am surprised there is anyone left in the organization with any confidence in Brian. To me, he's toast
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 08:39 PM

by the way, luck is a junior, so he could stay another year. my dream would be for miami to get the number one pick and he decides to stay at stanford
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 08:54 PM

View PostNY=#1, on 10 October 2011 - 09:39 PM, said:

by the way, luck is a junior, so he could stay another year. my dream would be for miami to get the number one pick and he decides to stay at stanford


If he comes out and Indianapolis has the first pick, they won't miss a beat when Manning retires.
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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:05 PM

I cannot believe there is a post titled "Andrew Luck" on a Jets message board.

Oh, wait... yes I can. Un-f'ing-believable.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:08 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 10 October 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

I cannot believe there is a post titled "Andrew Luck" on a Jets message board.

Oh, wait... yes I can. Un-f'ing-believable.


It's a Jets fan site. A three game losing streak after 2 straight AFC Championship games and people are calling for Rex to be fired, Tannenbaum to be fired, and Sanchez to be benched for Grandpa Mark.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:45 AM

View PostChaos, on 10 October 2011 - 10:08 PM, said:

It's a Jets fan site. A three game losing streak after 2 straight AFC Championship games and people are calling for Rex to be fired, Tannenbaum to be fired, and Sanchez to be benched for Grandpa Mark.


Sounds like were 0-16 :rolleyes:
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 10:25 AM

View PostChaos, on 10 October 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

It's a Jets fan site. A three game losing streak after 2 straight AFC Championship games and people are calling for Rex to be fired, Tannenbaum to be fired, and Sanchez to be benched for Grandpa Mark.


Yup... some of the things I read here just continue to amaze me.




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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:07 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 10 October 2011 - 11:57 AM, said:

There is absolutely no chance that this team has the 1st overall pick... We just completed the TOUGHEST stretch of games for this season, 3 games on the road against possibly 3 playoff teams. We need to fire Schottenheimer, get a talented RB that can make plays, and get a young WR that can get separation.


thank you brother!
the jets need playmakers.
quick strike ability to compliment a running game.
they need building blocks, not demolition.
this must be done with adding talent and removing the issues that caused them to fall short
for two afc titles... shit-dude.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:23 PM

View Postjet-man, on 11 October 2011 - 12:07 PM, said:

thank you brother!
the jets need playmakers.
quick strike ability to compliment a running game.
they need building blocks, not demolition.
this must be done with adding talent and removing the issues that caused them to fall short
for two afc titles... shit-dude.


Holmes has that ability we just don't use it. BE had it to and we barely used it with him either. maybe once every 4 games. also if you want to go deep you need better protection.
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