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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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Does This Make Us Want To Secure Our Borders?

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:36 PM

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SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - Texas law enforcement officials say several Mexican drug cartels are luring youngsters as young as 11 to work in their smuggling operations.

Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told Reuters the drug gangs have a chilling name for the young Texans lured into their operations.

"They call them 'the expendables,'" he said.

McCraw said his investigators have evidence six Mexican drug gangs -- including the violent Zetas -- have "command and control centers" in Texas actively recruiting children for their operations, attracting them with what appears to be "easy money" for doing simple tasks.

"Cartels would pay kids $50 just for them to move a vehicle from one position to another position, which allows the cartel to keep it under surveillance to see if law enforcement has it under surveillance," he said.

"Of course, once you're hooked up with them, there's consequences."

McCraw said 25 minors have been arrested in one Texas border county alone in the past year for running drugs, acting as lookouts, or doing other work for organized Mexican drug gangs. The cartels are now fanning out, he said, and have operations in all major Texas cities.

This month, "we made an arrest of a 12-year-old boy who was in a stolen pickup truck with 800 pounds of marijuana," he said. "So they do recruit our kids."

McCraw says the state of Texas is joining a program initiated by U.S. Customs and Border Protection called "Operation Detour," in which law enforcement officers meet with children and their parents in schools and at community centers to warn them about the dangers of what appears to be the easy money the Mexican drug gangs offer.

Law enforcement officers say children are less likely to be suspects than adults, are easily manipulated by relatively small sums of money, and face less severe penalties than adults if arrested.

Last month, Texas officials released a report indicating Mexico-based drug gangs are intent on creating a "sanitary zone" on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande, and are "intimidating landowners" in south Texas into allowing them to use their property as "permanent bases" for drug smuggling activity.


Its nice to know our children are being called expedable
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:20 PM

Mexican children must fall under the umbrella of "our children"
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:40 PM

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Mexican children must fall under the umbrella of "our children"

I would not say French, Iranian, Italian ECT... are ours either. But when American Children are being targeted to smuggle drugs into the US and being called disposable there is a problem. Time to secure the border. Bringthe troops home and put them @ the border. They wont have jobs if they come back now.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:09 PM

show me where in that article it states the children are white americans

it would be 99% easier for the cartels to recruit children from mexican families
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:01 AM

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2011 - 12:09 AM, said:

show me where in that article it states the children are white americans

it would be 99% easier for the cartels to recruit children from mexican families



Does it honestly matter what race or nationality they are? I believe the point of the article is to show how badly we need border security. The people sending anyone into our country illegally need to be executed just like the Americans helping them and harboring them also need to be executed. No arrests. No trials. On the spot executions. Men. Women. Children (those old enough to know what they're doing is illegal). Doesn't make a difference to me. Call me cruel. Call me mean or heartless or whatever you'd like but it would send a clear message. As for the "international response" of shock, etc.....two words. f*** 'em.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:04 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 18 October 2011 - 10:01 AM, said:

Does it honestly matter what race or nationality they are? I believe the point of the article is to show how badly we need border security. The people sending anyone into our country illegally need to be executed just like the Americans helping them and harboring them also need to be executed. No arrests. No trials. On the spot executions. Men. Women. Children (those old enough to know what they're doing is illegal). Doesn't make a difference to me. Call me cruel. Call me mean or heartless or whatever you'd like but it would send a clear message. As for the "international response" of shock, etc.....two words. f*** 'em.


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so your solution to stop corruption and violence
is more violence

sounds... reasonable?
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 11:37 AM

View Postsantana, on 17 October 2011 - 11:09 PM, said:

show me where in that article it states the children are white americans

it would be 99% easier for the cartels to recruit children from mexican families


Who said white? All I saw was American.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 11:39 AM

Just to be clear I do not value American childrens lives over anyother nationality. I just think you should take care of you own first. You have to have your priorities in line.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 12:09 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

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so your solution to stop corruption and violence
is more violence

sounds... reasonable?



And your ideas to stop it are what? Just give in to the corrupt and violent? Or do you want more "diplomatic" solutions by our worthless president giving them free reign as he's been doing? That's really solved the issue hasn't it? At least my suggestion actually has merit where it would deter the scum from doing it in the first place if they know they'll be killed if they're caught. Your solution is what? Continue to do nothing? Or continue to waste american tax dollars by spending tens of thousands on deportation hearings only to have them return in a week IF they dont get granted asylum. sorry. That's been happening for decades and hasn't done a damn thing to stop the influx. Start killing people and you WILL see a decrease. Why are some of you sooooo against killing the people that are killing our people?
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 12:34 PM

If those children came from families where the parent's weren't working for $40/day, they might not have an incentive to join drug cartels. Send them to college.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 05:28 PM

Have them come to this country LEGALLY & I won't have a problem with sending them to college. BUT.....obviously they must apply for permanent residency/citizenship in order to qualify for aid as one of the requirements for a student visa is that they have the funds to pay for their classes.

Do you expect us to educate the entire world for free? That's essentially what you're saying we should do. Educate every man, woman and child that cannot afford it themselves. Thinking about it on that large scale do you see how ridiculous of an idea that is? Let's have the American taxpayers educate everyone that wants it just because they can't afford it and because they come from a third world country.

And by the way......that $40 per day is worth 40 X's 13.33. Don't forget that so the $40 that you refer to is worth 533.20 pesos per day as of the current exchange rate. Costs are MUCH lower in Mexico in case you didn't know. Even when I was in the resort town of Playa del Carmen, things were cheap as hell. I was able to stay in a 4 star resort all inclusive for 8 days 7 nights with round trip airfare for $500. Trust me....while many do live in squalor there.......we have many living the same here. Why can't we take care of our own before taking care of everyone else? Do you realize how many military veterans are homeless and go hungry on a daily basis here in the US? There were at one time more than 400,000 homeless veterans. Thankfully that numbr has now dropped to approximately 135,000 today but there are another 1.5 MILLION in danger of becoming homeless due to poverty, lack of support networks, and dismal living conditions in overcrowded or substandard housing.

Do you realize that only eight percent of the general population can claim veteran status, but nearly one-fifth of the homeless population are veterans.

Here's a quote for you.....

"veterans are far more likely to be homeless than non-veterans and part of it is because we're not providing services to them as they transition out of the service,"

"Part of it is because there is just not enough affordable housing," he added.

Can you guess who said that? You may just be surprized. (For those that don't want to look it up........it was our president himself while he was still a senator and on the campaign trail.)

Still think we should worry about the poor in other countries prior to our own? I would rather give free housing to each and every one of those homeless vets than pay for a single day of education for illegals. I'm sure those homeless vets would rather live once again in barracks type environments than on the streets if need be. I'm also willing to bet that we could build apartment complexes that could house each and every one of them for a cheaper price than it would cost to send the illegals to college for one year. Let's see....even at community college a full time (12 credits) education for in-county tuition is 4800 per year. Multiply that by 12 million. That's 57.6 BILLION dollars per year spent to educate the illegals that would be granted amnesty at a community college at today's rates. Do you really think the American public can afford that but can't afford to house the homeless of our own?
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:33 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 18 October 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

Do you realize that only eight percent of the general population can claim veteran status, but nearly one-fifth of the homeless population are veterans.

Here's a quote for you.....

"veterans are far more likely to be homeless than non-veterans and part of it is because we're not providing services to them as they transition out of the service,"


Can you guess who said that? You may just be surprized. (For those that don't want to look it up........it was our president himself while he was still a senator and on the campaign trail.)

Still think we should worry about the poor in other countries prior to our own?


What is really scary is what will happen when we do end the war. We will have another Vietnam. We are at 10% unemployed and 20% underemployed now. Wait till we add all of the thousands of Military to the mix. We are fucked under this leadership and thought process.
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