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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Does This Make Us Want To Secure Our Borders?

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:36 PM

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SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - Texas law enforcement officials say several Mexican drug cartels are luring youngsters as young as 11 to work in their smuggling operations.

Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told Reuters the drug gangs have a chilling name for the young Texans lured into their operations.

"They call them 'the expendables,'" he said.

McCraw said his investigators have evidence six Mexican drug gangs -- including the violent Zetas -- have "command and control centers" in Texas actively recruiting children for their operations, attracting them with what appears to be "easy money" for doing simple tasks.

"Cartels would pay kids $50 just for them to move a vehicle from one position to another position, which allows the cartel to keep it under surveillance to see if law enforcement has it under surveillance," he said.

"Of course, once you're hooked up with them, there's consequences."

McCraw said 25 minors have been arrested in one Texas border county alone in the past year for running drugs, acting as lookouts, or doing other work for organized Mexican drug gangs. The cartels are now fanning out, he said, and have operations in all major Texas cities.

This month, "we made an arrest of a 12-year-old boy who was in a stolen pickup truck with 800 pounds of marijuana," he said. "So they do recruit our kids."

McCraw says the state of Texas is joining a program initiated by U.S. Customs and Border Protection called "Operation Detour," in which law enforcement officers meet with children and their parents in schools and at community centers to warn them about the dangers of what appears to be the easy money the Mexican drug gangs offer.

Law enforcement officers say children are less likely to be suspects than adults, are easily manipulated by relatively small sums of money, and face less severe penalties than adults if arrested.

Last month, Texas officials released a report indicating Mexico-based drug gangs are intent on creating a "sanitary zone" on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande, and are "intimidating landowners" in south Texas into allowing them to use their property as "permanent bases" for drug smuggling activity.


Its nice to know our children are being called expedable
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:20 PM

Mexican children must fall under the umbrella of "our children"
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:40 PM

View Postsantana, on 17 October 2011 - 10:20 PM, said:

Mexican children must fall under the umbrella of "our children"

I would not say French, Iranian, Italian ECT... are ours either. But when American Children are being targeted to smuggle drugs into the US and being called disposable there is a problem. Time to secure the border. Bringthe troops home and put them @ the border. They wont have jobs if they come back now.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:09 PM

show me where in that article it states the children are white americans

it would be 99% easier for the cartels to recruit children from mexican families
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:01 AM

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2011 - 12:09 AM, said:

show me where in that article it states the children are white americans

it would be 99% easier for the cartels to recruit children from mexican families



Does it honestly matter what race or nationality they are? I believe the point of the article is to show how badly we need border security. The people sending anyone into our country illegally need to be executed just like the Americans helping them and harboring them also need to be executed. No arrests. No trials. On the spot executions. Men. Women. Children (those old enough to know what they're doing is illegal). Doesn't make a difference to me. Call me cruel. Call me mean or heartless or whatever you'd like but it would send a clear message. As for the "international response" of shock, etc.....two words. f*** 'em.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:04 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 18 October 2011 - 10:01 AM, said:

Does it honestly matter what race or nationality they are? I believe the point of the article is to show how badly we need border security. The people sending anyone into our country illegally need to be executed just like the Americans helping them and harboring them also need to be executed. No arrests. No trials. On the spot executions. Men. Women. Children (those old enough to know what they're doing is illegal). Doesn't make a difference to me. Call me cruel. Call me mean or heartless or whatever you'd like but it would send a clear message. As for the "international response" of shock, etc.....two words. f*** 'em.


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so your solution to stop corruption and violence
is more violence

sounds... reasonable?
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 11:37 AM

View Postsantana, on 17 October 2011 - 11:09 PM, said:

show me where in that article it states the children are white americans

it would be 99% easier for the cartels to recruit children from mexican families


Who said white? All I saw was American.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 11:39 AM

Just to be clear I do not value American childrens lives over anyother nationality. I just think you should take care of you own first. You have to have your priorities in line.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 12:09 PM

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so your solution to stop corruption and violence
is more violence

sounds... reasonable?



And your ideas to stop it are what? Just give in to the corrupt and violent? Or do you want more "diplomatic" solutions by our worthless president giving them free reign as he's been doing? That's really solved the issue hasn't it? At least my suggestion actually has merit where it would deter the scum from doing it in the first place if they know they'll be killed if they're caught. Your solution is what? Continue to do nothing? Or continue to waste american tax dollars by spending tens of thousands on deportation hearings only to have them return in a week IF they dont get granted asylum. sorry. That's been happening for decades and hasn't done a damn thing to stop the influx. Start killing people and you WILL see a decrease. Why are some of you sooooo against killing the people that are killing our people?
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 12:34 PM

If those children came from families where the parent's weren't working for $40/day, they might not have an incentive to join drug cartels. Send them to college.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 05:28 PM

Have them come to this country LEGALLY & I won't have a problem with sending them to college. BUT.....obviously they must apply for permanent residency/citizenship in order to qualify for aid as one of the requirements for a student visa is that they have the funds to pay for their classes.

Do you expect us to educate the entire world for free? That's essentially what you're saying we should do. Educate every man, woman and child that cannot afford it themselves. Thinking about it on that large scale do you see how ridiculous of an idea that is? Let's have the American taxpayers educate everyone that wants it just because they can't afford it and because they come from a third world country.

And by the way......that $40 per day is worth 40 X's 13.33. Don't forget that so the $40 that you refer to is worth 533.20 pesos per day as of the current exchange rate. Costs are MUCH lower in Mexico in case you didn't know. Even when I was in the resort town of Playa del Carmen, things were cheap as hell. I was able to stay in a 4 star resort all inclusive for 8 days 7 nights with round trip airfare for $500. Trust me....while many do live in squalor there.......we have many living the same here. Why can't we take care of our own before taking care of everyone else? Do you realize how many military veterans are homeless and go hungry on a daily basis here in the US? There were at one time more than 400,000 homeless veterans. Thankfully that numbr has now dropped to approximately 135,000 today but there are another 1.5 MILLION in danger of becoming homeless due to poverty, lack of support networks, and dismal living conditions in overcrowded or substandard housing.

Do you realize that only eight percent of the general population can claim veteran status, but nearly one-fifth of the homeless population are veterans.

Here's a quote for you.....

"veterans are far more likely to be homeless than non-veterans and part of it is because we're not providing services to them as they transition out of the service,"

"Part of it is because there is just not enough affordable housing," he added.

Can you guess who said that? You may just be surprized. (For those that don't want to look it up........it was our president himself while he was still a senator and on the campaign trail.)

Still think we should worry about the poor in other countries prior to our own? I would rather give free housing to each and every one of those homeless vets than pay for a single day of education for illegals. I'm sure those homeless vets would rather live once again in barracks type environments than on the streets if need be. I'm also willing to bet that we could build apartment complexes that could house each and every one of them for a cheaper price than it would cost to send the illegals to college for one year. Let's see....even at community college a full time (12 credits) education for in-county tuition is 4800 per year. Multiply that by 12 million. That's 57.6 BILLION dollars per year spent to educate the illegals that would be granted amnesty at a community college at today's rates. Do you really think the American public can afford that but can't afford to house the homeless of our own?
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:33 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 18 October 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

Do you realize that only eight percent of the general population can claim veteran status, but nearly one-fifth of the homeless population are veterans.

Here's a quote for you.....

"veterans are far more likely to be homeless than non-veterans and part of it is because we're not providing services to them as they transition out of the service,"


Can you guess who said that? You may just be surprized. (For those that don't want to look it up........it was our president himself while he was still a senator and on the campaign trail.)

Still think we should worry about the poor in other countries prior to our own?


What is really scary is what will happen when we do end the war. We will have another Vietnam. We are at 10% unemployed and 20% underemployed now. Wait till we add all of the thousands of Military to the mix. We are fucked under this leadership and thought process.
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