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Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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If The Colts Get The 1St Overall Pick And Draft Andrew Luck

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 03:27 PM

Then move on from Peyton Manning, if you were the Jets do you go get Manning?
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:08 PM

no way they do that. he'll sit behind peyton for 2-3 years and learn from the best ever and then take over. they won't throw him to the wolves. By that time manning will probably retire. It'll be like the packers did with favre/rodgers except manning will be classier
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:28 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 28 October 2011 - 04:27 PM, said:

Then move on from Peyton Manning, if you were the Jets do you go get Manning?


If I was, while it would be really tempting, I think only if he was released. No doubt the Colts will/would get a high bounty for him. Something I don't think the Jets should do. Palmer netted what could be two 1st rounders, what do you think Peyton will go for? It also does not guarantee a championship at all.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:41 PM

3 neck surgeries in 2 years? What makes you think Peyton is coming back?
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:49 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 28 October 2011 - 05:08 PM, said:

no way they do that. he'll sit behind peyton for 2-3 years and learn from the best ever and then take over. they won't throw him to the wolves. By that time manning will probably retire. It'll be like the packers did with favre/rodgers except manning will be classier


He won't sit behind Manning for 2-3 years.

If they draft Luck, he's starting. They'll look to move him, no one will want the contract though. Probably will cut him.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:59 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2011 - 05:49 PM, said:

He won't sit behind Manning for 2-3 years.

If they draft Luck, he's starting. They'll look to move him, no one will want the contract though. Probably will cut him.


1. You're crazy. No one is cutting Peyton Manning. When healthy, he's the best QB in the NFL. The fact that the Colts have been in the playoffs every year even though everyone knew that they were low on talent is proof of that. If he's healthy, he's starting. That's a huge "if".

2. There's absolutely no rush to start Luck. With the rookie wage scale, Luck will be making about $7M a year. That's very reasonable. The Colts OL is terrible. They don't have a RB. Starting a rookie and throwing him to the wolves is a recipe for disaster. Let him sit and learn behind Manning. Lear to read defenses, to check out of plays, to study film etc... which brings me to my next point:

3. Once he's done playing, Peyton is going to remain with the Colts. Not only is he a great QB, he's an even better football mind. He can be invaluable as an OC or even a HC.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:45 PM

Luck is considered the best QB prospect in a long time, with the success of QBs coming in and starting right away they would not sit him for 3 years.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:56 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 October 2011 - 05:59 PM, said:

1. You're crazy. No one is cutting Peyton Manning. When healthy, he's the best QB in the NFL. The fact that the Colts have been in the playoffs every year even though everyone knew that they were low on talent is proof of that. If he's healthy, he's starting. That's a huge "if".

2. There's absolutely no rush to start Luck. With the rookie wage scale, Luck will be making about $7M a year. That's very reasonable. The Colts OL is terrible. They don't have a RB. Starting a rookie and throwing him to the wolves is a recipe for disaster. Let him sit and learn behind Manning. Lear to read defenses, to check out of plays, to study film etc... which brings me to my next point:

3. Once he's done playing, Peyton is going to remain with the Colts. Not only is he a great QB, he's an even better football mind. He can be invaluable as an OC or even a HC.


1. They're not IR'ing him for a reason. They gave him a contract KNOWING he was hurt and probably out long term. They are being loyal and letting him still collect his paycheck and stay involved. They have given him tons of money (rightly so).

2. Well, yeah, there is no reason unless you have no other option. Peyton is hurt, could possibly not ever come back and if he does, it's not a for sure he's back playing as the best in football. Andrew Luck is ready for anything, and playing with the Colts wouldn't be 'throwing him to the wolves'. Just because Collins and Painter have sucked doesn't mean Luck will. He's got more talent in his pinkytoe then they do combined.

3. Peyton just said on CBS' College Football last weekend he'd be more interested as a commentator than a coaching job. We know how many commercials the fucker as done, he clearly likes being on TV. I see him doing that before coaching... and who says if he's moved on from the Colts he couldn't coach there?

I'm not saying it's a for sure deal but I think they'd either tell him re-do his deal or risk getting snipped.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:11 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

1. They're not IR'ing him for a reason. They gave him a contract KNOWING he was hurt and probably out long term. They are being loyal and letting him still collect his paycheck and stay involved. They have given him tons of money (rightly so).

2. Well, yeah, there is no reason unless you have no other option. Peyton is hurt, could possibly not ever come back and if he does, it's not a for sure he's back playing as the best in football. Andrew Luck is ready for anything, and playing with the Colts wouldn't be 'throwing him to the wolves'. Just because Collins and Painter have sucked doesn't mean Luck will. He's got more talent in his pinkytoe then they do combined.

3. Peyton just said on CBS' College Football last weekend he'd be more interested as a commentator than a coaching job. We know how many commercials the fucker as done, he clearly likes being on TV. I see him doing that before coaching... and who says if he's moved on from the Colts he couldn't coach there?

I'm not saying it's a for sure deal but I think they'd either tell him re-do his deal or risk getting snipped.


I'd love to see him as an analyst. With his knowledge he'd be the best one ever. He probably knows the game of football in our era better then anyone. offense and defense. I've never seen a QB read defenses and make decisions as good as him ever
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:13 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 28 October 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

I'd love to see him as an analyst. With his knowledge he'd be the best one ever. He probably knows the game of football in our era better then anyone. offense and defense. I've never seen a QB read defenses and make decisions as good as him ever


And he's extremely well spoken. Would fit in well with the CBS bunch for College.
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