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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
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If The Colts Get The 1St Overall Pick And Draft Andrew Luck

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 03:27 PM

Then move on from Peyton Manning, if you were the Jets do you go get Manning?
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:08 PM

no way they do that. he'll sit behind peyton for 2-3 years and learn from the best ever and then take over. they won't throw him to the wolves. By that time manning will probably retire. It'll be like the packers did with favre/rodgers except manning will be classier
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:28 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 28 October 2011 - 04:27 PM, said:

Then move on from Peyton Manning, if you were the Jets do you go get Manning?


If I was, while it would be really tempting, I think only if he was released. No doubt the Colts will/would get a high bounty for him. Something I don't think the Jets should do. Palmer netted what could be two 1st rounders, what do you think Peyton will go for? It also does not guarantee a championship at all.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:41 PM

3 neck surgeries in 2 years? What makes you think Peyton is coming back?
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:49 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 28 October 2011 - 05:08 PM, said:

no way they do that. he'll sit behind peyton for 2-3 years and learn from the best ever and then take over. they won't throw him to the wolves. By that time manning will probably retire. It'll be like the packers did with favre/rodgers except manning will be classier


He won't sit behind Manning for 2-3 years.

If they draft Luck, he's starting. They'll look to move him, no one will want the contract though. Probably will cut him.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:59 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2011 - 05:49 PM, said:

He won't sit behind Manning for 2-3 years.

If they draft Luck, he's starting. They'll look to move him, no one will want the contract though. Probably will cut him.


1. You're crazy. No one is cutting Peyton Manning. When healthy, he's the best QB in the NFL. The fact that the Colts have been in the playoffs every year even though everyone knew that they were low on talent is proof of that. If he's healthy, he's starting. That's a huge "if".

2. There's absolutely no rush to start Luck. With the rookie wage scale, Luck will be making about $7M a year. That's very reasonable. The Colts OL is terrible. They don't have a RB. Starting a rookie and throwing him to the wolves is a recipe for disaster. Let him sit and learn behind Manning. Lear to read defenses, to check out of plays, to study film etc... which brings me to my next point:

3. Once he's done playing, Peyton is going to remain with the Colts. Not only is he a great QB, he's an even better football mind. He can be invaluable as an OC or even a HC.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:45 PM

Luck is considered the best QB prospect in a long time, with the success of QBs coming in and starting right away they would not sit him for 3 years.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:56 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 October 2011 - 05:59 PM, said:

1. You're crazy. No one is cutting Peyton Manning. When healthy, he's the best QB in the NFL. The fact that the Colts have been in the playoffs every year even though everyone knew that they were low on talent is proof of that. If he's healthy, he's starting. That's a huge "if".

2. There's absolutely no rush to start Luck. With the rookie wage scale, Luck will be making about $7M a year. That's very reasonable. The Colts OL is terrible. They don't have a RB. Starting a rookie and throwing him to the wolves is a recipe for disaster. Let him sit and learn behind Manning. Lear to read defenses, to check out of plays, to study film etc... which brings me to my next point:

3. Once he's done playing, Peyton is going to remain with the Colts. Not only is he a great QB, he's an even better football mind. He can be invaluable as an OC or even a HC.


1. They're not IR'ing him for a reason. They gave him a contract KNOWING he was hurt and probably out long term. They are being loyal and letting him still collect his paycheck and stay involved. They have given him tons of money (rightly so).

2. Well, yeah, there is no reason unless you have no other option. Peyton is hurt, could possibly not ever come back and if he does, it's not a for sure he's back playing as the best in football. Andrew Luck is ready for anything, and playing with the Colts wouldn't be 'throwing him to the wolves'. Just because Collins and Painter have sucked doesn't mean Luck will. He's got more talent in his pinkytoe then they do combined.

3. Peyton just said on CBS' College Football last weekend he'd be more interested as a commentator than a coaching job. We know how many commercials the fucker as done, he clearly likes being on TV. I see him doing that before coaching... and who says if he's moved on from the Colts he couldn't coach there?

I'm not saying it's a for sure deal but I think they'd either tell him re-do his deal or risk getting snipped.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:11 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

1. They're not IR'ing him for a reason. They gave him a contract KNOWING he was hurt and probably out long term. They are being loyal and letting him still collect his paycheck and stay involved. They have given him tons of money (rightly so).

2. Well, yeah, there is no reason unless you have no other option. Peyton is hurt, could possibly not ever come back and if he does, it's not a for sure he's back playing as the best in football. Andrew Luck is ready for anything, and playing with the Colts wouldn't be 'throwing him to the wolves'. Just because Collins and Painter have sucked doesn't mean Luck will. He's got more talent in his pinkytoe then they do combined.

3. Peyton just said on CBS' College Football last weekend he'd be more interested as a commentator than a coaching job. We know how many commercials the fucker as done, he clearly likes being on TV. I see him doing that before coaching... and who says if he's moved on from the Colts he couldn't coach there?

I'm not saying it's a for sure deal but I think they'd either tell him re-do his deal or risk getting snipped.


I'd love to see him as an analyst. With his knowledge he'd be the best one ever. He probably knows the game of football in our era better then anyone. offense and defense. I've never seen a QB read defenses and make decisions as good as him ever
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:13 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 28 October 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

I'd love to see him as an analyst. With his knowledge he'd be the best one ever. He probably knows the game of football in our era better then anyone. offense and defense. I've never seen a QB read defenses and make decisions as good as him ever


And he's extremely well spoken. Would fit in well with the CBS bunch for College.
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