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azjetfan Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:20 PM) Tom Pettys brother
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:22 PM) Jets should take Collins with one of their 7th rounders if there
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:22 PM) He has more upside for a 7th rounder than anyone else
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:22 PM) He can start right away at RT
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:29 PM) He said he won't sign
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:32 PM) so he doesn't want to be drafted?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:33 PM) If Collins doesn't get drafted, he can't enter next years draft. He can only if he is drafted and sits out. So I guess he has to go undrafted
V DidDy 210 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:41 PM) going undrafted makes the most sense for collins
V DidDy 210 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 03:41 PM) but for teams, drafting him and dealing with his holdout makes more sense
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:19 PM) Zac Stacy was traded to us for our 7th
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:21 PM) Jets also drafted a NT with our other 7th
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:21 PM) 6'4 330 DL who is very strong
V DidDy 210 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:25 PM) zac stacy for a 7th
V DidDy 210 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:25 PM) well can't complain about that
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:29 PM) So we have 4 rbs now
V DidDy 210 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:31 PM) still would have rather taken a runner on collins but i can't complain with depth
V DidDy 210 Icon : (02 May 2015 - 04:32 PM) i mean they can't expect to carry 4 rb though no?
azjetfan Icon : (02 May 2015 - 05:50 PM) Collins would have been a waste. He would not have signed. At least we have something to show for our pick. Worst case scenario is we trade or release one of our backs.
azjetfan Icon : (02 May 2015 - 05:56 PM) I know it's hard to tell without seeing a win loss record yet but this regime seems really on point.
azjetfan Icon : (02 May 2015 - 05:56 PM) For the first time in my life I can say I feel comfortable with the people making the decisions.
azjetfan Icon : (02 May 2015 - 05:57 PM) I was close with Parcells but he seemed like a short term fixer and didn't care about the long term
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 May 2015 - 06:57 PM) SUCK FOR THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 May 2015 - 06:57 PM) .......oh wait
santana Icon : (03 May 2015 - 01:13 AM) Well that was a disappointment
Chadforpresi... Icon : (03 May 2015 - 01:24 AM) I like getting Stacy for our 7th rounder, assuming he can handle the fact he won't be a feature back (yikes)
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:31 AM) I like the trade, hes a quality back and adds more depth to our backfield
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:32 AM) Macc has pretty much killed it this offseason
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:32 AM) He has turned this roster around, he has added talent and competition all over.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:33 AM) We still aren't great at QB, but our overall football team is good. We have a realistic shot at making a playoff run
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:33 AM) We may have the best defense in football. We have a great DL and secondary, that is gonna be tough on offenses when you can stop the run, pressure the QB, and blanket the receivers
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:23 PM) ok now it's time for this team to take all this talent and do something anything below a 10-6 season will be a disappointment
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:24 PM) the only still glaring issue is QB
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 May 2015 - 09:25 PM) we got the WR problem solved, we got probably one of the best Defenses in the game and we have addressed the OL but QB will still be the glaring issue
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 09:34 AM) jets cleaning house
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:57 PM) I'm excited about this year. Could be a good year for the Jets.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:32 PM) weird how they cleaned house in the scouting department after such a successful draft and off-season so far
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) I assume they didn't bring much to the table
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:41 PM) Have to clean the table
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 09:08 PM) Fuck the rangers
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 09:08 PM) face off dominated holtby gtfo
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:18 PM) La'el Collins is meeting with Rex Ryan tonight
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:31 AM) FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH!
Chaos Icon : (Today, 05:41 AM) Damn that'd make up for the Bills not having a first rounder
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 10:59 AM) They didn't sign him yet. It's just a visit.
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 12:37 AM

This was a very frustrating loss. And I put it completely on the offense, particularly Sanchez. I didn't want to admit it, but Sanchez is regressing. If his first read isn't there, he panics. He has no sense of timing and no comfort zone in the pocket. Frankly, he has no confidence and it shows.

Shonne Greene is not a starting running back. The Jets need to draft a top tier running back. Greene produces as a spell back and that is what he should be.

I feel bad for the defense. If you don't watch the games, you wouldn't know that they are actually playing well. When you play the Patriots, you have to accept that Brady is going to score points. So when the defense does it's job and forces them to punt, the offense has to respond. And they didn't. The same thing applied to the Denver game. 13 points? You have to be kidding me! All game, the defense did it's job. You can't leave the ball in Tebow's hands down one score with a few minutes left. He should have never been in that position.

Everyone wants to blame Schottenheimer. But it is the quarterback that must execute. And unless his first read is open, Sanchez doesn't.
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 12:52 AM

View PostCamenzind, on 18 November 2011 - 12:37 AM, said:

This was a very frustrating loss. And I put it completely on the offense, particularly Sanchez. I didn't want to admit it, but Sanchez is regressing. If his first read isn't there, he panics. He has no sense of timing and no comfort zone in the pocket. Frankly, he has no confidence and it shows.

Shonne Greene is not a starting running back. The Jets need to draft a top tier running back. Greene produces as a spell back and that is what he should be.

I feel bad for the defense. If you don't watch the games, you wouldn't know that they are actually playing well. When you play the Patriots, you have to accept that Brady is going to score points. So when the defense does it's job and forces them to punt, the offense has to respond. And they didn't. The same thing applied to the Denver game. 13 points? You have to be kidding me! All game, the defense did it's job. You can't leave the ball in Tebow's hands down one score with a few minutes left. He should have never been in that position.

Everyone wants to blame Schottenheimer. But it is the quarterback that must execute. And unless his first read is open, Sanchez doesn't.

i agree with you on the defense. but sanchez's problems begin with his handlers. the proof... look at bum tebow and his handlers winning with confidence. schitty is the broken wheel. he needs to put sanchez in better situations. you're telling me that sanchez forgot how to play? ok then how is alex smith winning with confidence in SF.? answer... his handler harbaugh.
is it a coincidence that harbaugh and elway were both nfl qb's and now their teams know how to get their qb's to play.
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 11:36 AM

View Postjet-man, on 18 November 2011 - 05:52 AM, said:

i agree with you on the defense. but sanchez's problems begin with his handlers. the proof... look at bum tebow and his handlers winning with confidence. schitty is the broken wheel. he needs to put sanchez in better situations. you're telling me that sanchez forgot how to play? ok then how is alex smith winning with confidence in SF.? answer... his handler harbaugh.
is it a coincidence that harbaugh and elway were both nfl qb's and now their teams know how to get their qb's to play.


I think the answer on Sanchez lies somewhere in the middle. Schottenheimer's playcalling was terrible once again last night, as we never dared to stretch the Broncos' defence and try for the big play. But Sanchez' execution was pitiful too. After a good game against San Diego and a reasonable one at Buffalo, he's fell back to his inconsistent ways. He looked timid out on the field, even when he went on that completion streak early in the second half, and never looked to take any chances all evening. It was quite telling how much noise the sideline reporters made of Mark's pre-game comments about not having LT in to pass protect. Given how he ended up playing, that undoubtedly was playing heavily on his mind; Sanchez wasn't exactly helped either by the offensive line's failure to keep the pass rush at bay.
I'm starting to miss having Braylon Edwards even more now. For all the advantages Plaxico offers - a huge red zone target who can go up and get the ball - he is not capable of getting downfield, creating separation with his speed and being the deep threat that Edwards was. And I think Sanchez misses him too because he doesn't seem to trust himself to put the ball up deep and let the receiver make the play as he was previously.
It's obvious though that things need to change - Sanchez needs to step things up, and Schottenheimer needs to be run out of town.
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 12:27 PM

it doesnt help either that wayne hunter is getting mowed over by a rook and sanchez needs to make better throws i think tebow coulda made the throw to keller in the endzone he always thsrows the ball to high it seems burres and holmes are always jumpin or diving for the ball and doesnt give an opportunity for the recievers to run up the field he always throws to a blanketed receiver and stares down the receivers and makes it easy for defenders to make plays. we may have to think about another qb next year along with new oc.
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 01:24 PM

View PostCamenzind, on 18 November 2011 - 12:37 AM, said:

Everyone wants to blame Schottenheimer. But it is the quarterback that must execute. And unless his first read is open, Sanchez doesn't.


I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I just think you have the cause/effect relationship backwards.

I'm a Sanchez supporter, but it's impossible to stand pat and pretend that he's okay. He's regressing. Mainly his vision and decision making aren't there. The reason for that is, he's being pummeled game after game. The first play from scrimmage, both Hunter and Brick let their defenders take them right to the QB. By the end of the 1st Quarter, Sanchez had a dirtier jersey than the RBs for either team. We simply cannot allow him to be hit like that. He's not Ben Rothlisberger or Michael Vick. He does not invite that contact. Once he gets hit, as do most QBs, the clock in his head speeds up. He starts locking on to his first reads because getting rid of the ball becomes a priority over everything else.

The biggest issue with this is that he has potential. Keep in mind he's only 24 and, at least statistically, he's shown growth. However, if he keeps getting hit the way he does, his mental game might be forever altered and, gulp, he may take the David Carr career route.
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 01:58 PM

View PostCamenzind, on 17 November 2011 - 11:37 PM, said:

This was a very frustrating loss. And I put it completely on the offense, particularly Sanchez. I didn't want to admit it, but Sanchez is regressing. If his first read isn't there, he panics. He has no sense of timing and no comfort zone in the pocket. Frankly, he has no confidence and it shows.


I agree he does play like he is always panicing. Also he seems to get lost after the first read is gone and then he is just winging it. He is not a confident QB. This game is 99% mental and he is loosing that battle.

View PostCamenzind, on 17 November 2011 - 11:37 PM, said:

Shonne Greene is not a starting running back. The Jets need to draft a top tier running back. Greene produces as a spell back and that is what he should be.


We do need a playmaker either @ the QB position or running back. We have niether @ this point.

View PostCamenzind, on 17 November 2011 - 11:37 PM, said:

I feel bad for the defense. If you don't watch the games, you wouldn't know that they are actually playing well. When you play the Patriots, you have to accept that Brady is going to score points. So when the defense does it's job and forces them to punt, the offense has to respond. And they didn't. The same thing applied to the Denver game. 13 points? You have to be kidding me! All game, the defense did it's job. You can't leave the ball in Tebow's hands down one score with a few minutes left. He should have never been in that position.

Everyone wants to blame Schottenheimer. But it is the quarterback that must execute. And unless his first read is open, Sanchez doesn't.


I agree this is a team sport but I do blame schitty more than anyone else. Sanchez was getting pressure all game from the right and Schitty did not adjust. The one series we did adjust we went right down the field for a TD and then we went right back to the same crappy game plan. I also Blame Sanchez' lack of confidence on Schitty. If I did not trust the playcaller I would think I could not complete passes as well. After his first read is gone he is looking to see how hard he is going to get hit instead of looking for the open guy. Schitty is gone after this year so why not let Callahan have a crack at it and see if he is the guy or not. Then we can see if Sanchez is the guy or not.
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