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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
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Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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Bart Scott Not A Fan Of Jets Fans?

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 11:03 AM



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Last Updated: 8:57 AM, November 22, 2011

Posted: 1:46 AM, November 22, 2011

Rex Ryan put on a humble face yesterday and said he would accept his wrist slap from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. Apparently bad language toward fans is frowned upon in this establishment even though it was OK to show Ryan dropping an unlimited number of F-bombs during the HBO “Hard Knocks” series before the 2010 season. Then it was presumed good for HBO and good for the NFL.

Ryan crossed the line when he was video-taped yelling “Shut the f--- up,” after a fan called out, “Hey Rex, Belichick is better than you,” as the Jets headed toward the locker room at halftime of their eventual, 37-16, loss to the Patriots on Nov. 13.

“It was a mistake and I’ve owned up to that mistake,” Ryan said during his press conference yesterday at the Jets training facility at Florham Park. “There’s no question about it. I’m not going to appeal it. Quite honestly, the man has made a decision and his decision is that I should be fined $75,000 then that’s the way it is. I just want to get it behind me.”

What’s noteworthy is this might be the first time Ryan has apologized for anything he has said since being hired as the Jets’ head coach before the 2009 season. His mouth has been moving non-stop since then, guaranteeing Super Bowls and vowing to take over New York and the like.

Still, this latest trip to the principal’s office has caused his players to rally around their coach. In fact, linebacker Bart Scott is of the opinion it’s the so-called Jets fans who need to shut the (bleep) up (my words not his) when it comes to criticizing Ryan even if the Jets are 5-5 and on the brink of elimination from playoff contention.

“Sometimes fans can say things that get under your skin,” Scott said. “You expect that on the road. It’s kind of discouraging when it comes at home, especially when the game is still achievable and you still have an opportunity to win. You don’t expect to hear discouraging things from your fans, especially to somebody who’s brought success and changed the culture of this team.

“I don’t think he deserves that level of disrespect because he’s laid it all on the line. He’s given this city what they weren’t getting before and that’s an identity, national exposure, a new attitude and a league-wide respect about how we go about business and how hard this team plays for the city.

“For you to forget all that and disrespect him or have an obscene statement or something that could enrage him like that because of one half of one game, it’s almost like someone you take care of and love in your own household, the first time you tell them you can’t loan them any money, they hate you.”

If that sounds like the Jets are circling the wagons, they are. Needing to win just about all of their remaining six games to be assured of a playoff spot, the Jets are trying to maintain their swagger in the midst of a flood of criticism after back-to-back losses to the Patriots and Tim Tebow’s Broncos in Denver. They are being viewed as an underachieving team with a coach who is beginning to sound more like a windbag than a winner.

“That’s what you sign up for in New York,” Scott said. “It’s not, ‘What have you done for me lately?’ It’s, ‘What have you done for me right now?’ ”

That’s the reality of not just New York, but the NFL, where the perception of a season and a coach can change week to week. With the Bills headed for MetLife Stadium on Sunday, Ryan didn’t back down on his belief the Jets can still make the playoffs.

“Absolutely, we can make a run,” he said. “We have the kind of team that can get hot and put it together.”

At this point, talk is cheap.

george.willis@nypost.com


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Posted 22 November 2011 - 01:16 PM

sounds right to me
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 01:29 PM

View Postsantana, on 22 November 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

sounds right to me


Anything to excuse our coach.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 01:35 PM

lol welcome to the Jets Bart, when things aren't going going well the fans are going to let you know. Not to mention your an overpaid LB who's skills have clearly declined since your first year here. Scott has 1 more season here then he'll be released to save 8 mil in cap space. They were breaking down on tv how a lot of the big runs were because of Bart Scott this season, hes not getting to the football fast enough, so either hes becoming too slow or not going hard enough. Hes already no longer on the field on passing downs.

We need to draft a ILB, someone who is athletic.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 10:35 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 22 November 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

We need to draft a ILB, someone who is athletic.


The Jets need a lot of speed on Defense, especially the LB's.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 11:53 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 22 November 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

We need to draft a ILB, someone who is athletic.

Is there one position where we don't need help besides CB?
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 12:34 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 22 November 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

Anything to excuse our coach.


This. There is some real sad, protect-Ryan-at-all-costs going on with a lot of fans and media and (unsurprisingly) Scott.

It's amazing to me how much can be discussed with what is wrong with the team, and yet so many are unwilling to blame any (or in better cases, much) on Ryan.

As an employee, one thing you get paid to do is play nice with customers (unless you work at one of those restaurants where you insult people at 2 a.m.).

I also like the notion that Ryan, with two winning seasons, "changed the culture" for the Jets. It isn't as if we were the Red Sox. But hero worship is hero worship.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 06:17 PM

I think the Rex has gave the just a solid identity. There the 08 Kyle Boller verison of the Ravens. Pretty good on defense but can't do sh*t on offense.

The reason why people protect Rex is because the writing is on the wall. He fields really good championship quality defenses and he's a good motivator and coach, everyone can see that the QB and offense are holding this team back from greatness. It's always been the case with the Jets. Just can never land that awesome QB. Pennington was close but of course he has to be fragile.

One day we'll get lucky and land our guy. Hopefully it's with Rex because we'll always play good defense here.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 06:32 PM

I like how because Ryan is considered a "defensive guy" (and rightly so since it is blatantly obvious he has no internal sense of offense) it is always "if he had an offense" and comments like that.

The best coaches in the league either get both sides of the ball (like Belichick) or they go out and make sure they have someone on the side of the ball they aren't as strong with that they know will get the job done. Sean Payton went out and got Williams because he needed someone to knock it out of the park. They won a Super Bowl. Packers went out, got Don Capers, and they won a Super Bowl.

All this silly offensive-is-holding-back-the-defense stuff would fly except Rex Ryan's responsibilities cover all aspects of the team, not just what he is good at. If his offense isn't getting the job done, he needs to address it. He isn't, therefore he is exacerbating a problem.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 06:37 PM

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Apparently bad language toward fans is frowned upon in this establishment even though it was OK to show Ryan dropping an unlimited number of F-bombs during the HBO “Hard Knocks” series before the 2010 season. Then it was presumed good for HBO and good for the NFL.


Does this guy not see the difference between cursing at a customer and cursing to motivate your team.

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Your players thinking they can still win is bad? At the end of the day Rex is the best HC we have had in years. We have had two great seasons with average teams. We are 5-5 not 0-10.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:54 AM

Its amazing how many people are knocking Rex because we're having ONE down season. Rex is paid to coach the players he's given. Obviously we lost some key guys this past offseason and we're not finding success after a shortened camp, etc. Rex's biggest mistake has been keeping Schottenheimer. I think we have to give him more time than his season to prove if he's the head coach everyone loved the last 2 years or if he's more of a D coordinator.

Everyone rides Bellichump's jock as the greatest coach of all time virtually but what have they done recently? Their only championships have come during the spygate years and haven't done anything other than regular season wins since. Even those wins are tainted as they seem to always have one of the easiest schedules in the league.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:11 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 25 November 2011 - 10:54 AM, said:

Rex is paid to coach the players he's given.


Let's not start the argument where the coach doesn't have much/any control over what players he has. If Ryan doesn't have enough say to have gotten a real safety or better OLinemen (across the board in terms of backups) or more pass rushers over the last three years or whatever else then he doesn't need to be here.

Teams with overly involved owners might have issues with their coaches not having a say in the team (Cinn, Dal, Wash) but most teams have a pretty cooperative decision making process between coaches and GMs.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:19 PM

I can honestly say that as a devoted Jets fan that I hate 90 % of other Jets fans with an effin passion!!! In my estimation most Jets fans are young (I'm 30) ignorant d-bags who don't know anything about football except what they see on Madden. And that's why there are so many uninformed posters on this site.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:57 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 25 November 2011 - 11:54 AM, said:

Its amazing how many people are knocking Rex because we're having ONE down season. Rex is paid to coach the players he's given. Obviously we lost some key guys this past offseason and we're not finding success after a shortened camp, etc. Rex's biggest mistake has been keeping Schottenheimer. I think we have to give him more time than his season to prove if he's the head coach everyone loved the last 2 years or if he's more of a D coordinator.

Everyone rides Bellichump's jock as the greatest coach of all time virtually but what have they done recently? Their only championships have come during the spygate years and haven't done anything other than regular season wins since. Even those wins are tainted as they seem to always have one of the easiest schedules in the league.


Clearly haven't read my posts in the past.

Rex is/has been/always will be a poor representative of this organization. And now that we're struggling with results, the pressure deserves to fully be on him.
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