[reg83ny]

If Denver makes the playoffs and we don't, heads should roll starting with schitty. The jets has to win out and I don't think they will. We got lucky today against the bills. But its not looking good.

[A1elbow]

It's pathetic that Denver has a QB who honestly can't throw and a RB who has been on three different teams and they are making it work by playing good defense and what are we doing with so much more "talent?" What position aren't we better at, and yet the team doesn't perform? I think it is obvious that in virtually every game we are outcoached, plain and simple.

[MikeGangGreenFan2]

whats really going to sucks is if we win out and denver wins out

[reg83ny]

A1elbow, on 27 November 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

It's pathetic that Denver has a QB who honestly can't throw and a RB who has been on three different teams and they are making it work by playing good defense and what are we doing with so much more "talent?" What position aren't we better at, and yet the team doesn't perform? I think it is obvious that in virtually every game we are outcoached, plain and simple.

All you have to do is look at today's game. Bills didn't have Fred Jackson one of the top RB in the league. Thier secondary is hurting. Steve johnson dropped 2 TD passes in one minute that could of ended the game. Regardless of the 4 TDs by Sanchez, he played like crap. Still clueless in the pocket. Hold the ball next to his hip at all times which is why we see all these fumbles by him. Still throwing behind the WRs. Plax made an adjustment that saved his ass on the sidelines that gave us the go ahead TD. Nothing has changed. This time we will not make the playoffs. The rest of the schedule is not that soft especially the way Sanchez is playing.

[santana]

Haha I thought this was going to be another "I told you so" thread

[Jetsfan115]

A1elbow, on 27 November 2011 - 04:59 PM, said:

It's pathetic that Denver has a QB who honestly can't throw and a RB who has been on three different teams and they are making it work by playing good defense and what are we doing with so much more "talent?" What position aren't we better at, and yet the team doesn't perform? I think it is obvious that in virtually every game we are outcoached, plain and simple.

Its definatly coaching. we have essentially the same team as last year on defense but better (strick is better then coleman, revis is healthy, wilson has more exp, maybin is providing presure, wilkerson is better then ellis) yet our dfense isn't top 3 like the past 2 years? only difference is rex isn't calling the plays. he gave it up to sutton so he can spend more time being a HC and less time being a DC. I think our coordinators (sutton and schotty) are overmatched every game with playcalling. We need a real OC and rex needs to take over play calling for the defense again

[Jetsfan115]

reg83ny, on 27 November 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

All you have to do is look at today's game. Bills didn't have Fred Jackson one of the top RB in the league. Thier secondary is hurting. Steve johnson dropped 2 TD passes in one minute that could of ended the game. Regardless of the 4 TDs by Sanchez, he played like crap. Still clueless in the pocket. Hold the ball next to his hip at all times which is why we see all these fumbles by him. Still throwing behind the WRs. Plax made an adjustment that saved his ass on the sidelines that gave us the go ahead TD. Nothing has changed. This time we will not make the playoffs. The rest of the schedule is not that soft especially the way Sanchez is playing.

our schedule is extremly soft. we have 5 games left. KC, was, Phi, NYG, and miami
only 1 of those teams has a record over 500. no way we don't win at least 4 leaving us at 10-6 which isn't bad but might not be enough. Denver, and Cincy need to start losing though

[S-Dubb]

All I saw was 4th Q, 5/9 for 57 yards and they were still in the game. Denver fans better savor this because the minute that D crumbles it's game over.

[Jetsman05]

S-Dubb, on 28 November 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

All I saw was 4th Q, 5/9 for 57 yards and they were still in the game. Denver fans better savor this because the minute that D crumbles it's game over.

51 rushes for 208 yards.

If they can do that, they'll be in any game.

[S-Dubb]

Jetsman05, on 28 November 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

51 rushes for 208 yards.

If they can do that, they'll be in any game.

This reminds me of the dolphins wildcat attack run they had that one year. It terrorized the league. Then teams started figuring it out and now they don't even run it anymore. Same thing will happen to Tebow and the option.

[Jetsman05]

S-Dubb, on 28 November 2011 - 04:04 PM, said:

This reminds me of the dolphins wildcat attack run they had that one year. It terrorized the league. Then teams started figuring it out and now they don't even run it anymore. Same thing will happen to Tebow and the option.

Reminds me of when you were saying the 3 TE formation the Pats were running was taking over the league. Then teams had film on it.

So I do agree, but my point is, if you can run the ball 51 times for 200 yards, they're going to stay in games.

[S-Dubb]

Jetsman05, on 28 November 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

Reminds me of when you were saying the 3 TE formation the Pats were running was taking over the league. Then teams had film on it.

So I do agree, but my point is, if you can run the ball 51 times for 200 yards, they're going to stay in games.

They still run 3TE sets but again a team has to commit to it first and foremost and thats AFTER they find the personnel to run it. I never said anything about the 3TE taking over the league because only a selected few teams run it. However big TE's are taking over the league. Pats still terrorize teams with the 3TE sets. Not sure what your talking about.

Yes, their staying in games now sure. Teams are still trying to figure out how to defend it. Once the element of the run is gone that gameplan fails.

[Jetsman05]

S-Dubb, on 28 November 2011 - 04:11 PM, said:

They still run 3TE sets but again a team has to commit to it first and foremost and thats AFTER they find the personnel to run it. I never said anything about the 3TE taking over the league because only a selected few teams run it. However big TE's are taking over the league. Pats still terrorize teams with the 3TE sets. Not sure what your talking about.

Yes, their staying in games now sure. Teams are still trying to figure out how to defend it. Once the element of the run is gone that gameplan fails.

They're going to be able to consistently run the ball, either with the spread-option or with Tebow under center. That's their recipe. Of course some games it won't work, but they'll stick to it.

The best way to beat the Broncos is to put points on the board and make Tebow throw the ball.

Pats have for the most part, gotten away from the 3 TE deal... nice wrinkle, much like the ball-option.

[S-Dubb]

Jetsman05, on 28 November 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

They're going to be able to consistently run the ball, either with the spread-option or with Tebow under center. That's their recipe. Of course some games it won't work, but they'll stick to it.

The best way to beat the Broncos is to put points on the board and make Tebow throw the ball.

Pats have for the most part, gotten away from the 3 TE deal... nice wrinkle, much like the ball-option.

That's exactly what I said a few posts earlier. Once the defense starts coughing up touchdowns it's a wrap.

[Jetsman05]

S-Dubb, on 28 November 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

That's exactly what I said a few posts earlier. Once the defense starts coughing up touchdowns it's a wrap.

But that doesn't mean the run game has been figured out. It just means they can't stick to their gameplan. That's what I am saying.

[Jetsfan115]

tebows numbers suck but you have to give him credit. he wins games. 5-1 as a starter even if he's protected by his mobility, run game, and defense he is still getting the job done. But the more he plays the more teams will stop it. just give it time. i think its us and cicny fighting for the 6 seed but cincy has to play b-more and pitt still

[S-Dubb]

Jetsfan115, on 28 November 2011 - 04:47 PM, said:

tebows numbers suck but you have to give him credit. he wins games. 5-1 as a starter even if he's protected by his mobility, run game, and defense he is still getting the job done. But the more he plays the more teams will stop it. just give it time. i think its us and cicny fighting for the 6 seed but cincy has to play b-more and pitt still

Bronco fans are drinking the cool aid. He's got more wins then John Elway had when he started.