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Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Jets Pathetic Offense. My opinion on where the problem is.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 08:28 AM

I have been wanting to do this all year, finally said F it and did it. Hope it is a decent assesment.

Plays of the Eagles Game
Start off with a big hit on the KO. Then good play by D to string out run, gain of about 1 yard….2nd and 9, long pass play, no pressure, wide open receiver. Then D forces a punt.

0-0 Punt is FC at the 4. 1st down, obvious run, 9 defenders in the box, 2 yard gain. 2nd and 10, 7 in the box, Green up the middle for 14 yards, first down. 1st and 10 Wildcat run for 6 yards. Here is where the BS Begins. Jets formation barely takes up 1/2 of the field 2 WR, 2RB, Sanchez under center, 10 Defenders within 6 yards of the line of scrimich. But we get Green up the middle for 13 yards. 1st down, even commentators say Eagles struggle with the run. We go to shotgun formation, 3 WR, 1RB, 10 Eagles are within 5 yards of the LOS. Screen to LT, didn’t surprise anyone in the defense, 4 yard loss. Then 2nd and 14. Shotgun, empty,5 recievers, 5 yard pass play, fumbled on the hit, returned for a TD. Jets had 5 recievers being covered by 7 defenders.
My thoughts, the drive starts with 4 rushes for 35 yards and we go to the pass? Shitty is an idiot…Holmes cant fumble there, but bear with us because it gets a whole lot better.

7-0 Eagles. 1st and 10 @ the 30. Same BS 2 receiver set, 10 defenders within 5 yards of the LOS. Quick slant, incomplete, PI called, 1st down. 1st Down….3 receiver set, Green in the backfield, Sanchez under center. 11 defenders within 13 yard of the LOS. 3 Yard run, 2nd and 7, 2 receivers 2 RB, TE in motion, the formation is small, and I mean we are all inside the numbers by at least 10 yards… Again 10 defenders in the box, 1 safety at 14 yards downfield. PA Pass, Sanchez in an 8 or 9 step drop, doesn’t even set his feet and is sacked. 6 man rush no open receivers where Sanchez could have thought about completing the pass, sacked immediately. 3rd and 14, 4 receiver set, trips right, 1 RB and Sanchez in shotgun. 2 Down Linemen for Eagles, 2 LBers delay blitz, Screen to LT for 9 yards, Eagles keep everyone in front, make tackle. Punt muffed, we recover at the 14. 1st and 10.n…. 2 receiver set, I Formation, 11 Eagles are within 9 yards of LOS….Run play, nothing, 2nd and 10, Sanchez in shotgun, 3 WR, 2 RB, 7 yard pass play, Holmes lets it go through his hands, INT. 4 man rush, both RBs in each flat, No Recovers are open. Conner looks to be wide open to the left, but Sanchez is looking right all the way. No pressure on Sanchez. Obviously a huge turning point for the game.
My opinion. The Eagles are obviosly daring us to beat them with the pass, But due to the playcall, there is really nothing simple for Sanchez. Once again, Holmes has got to make that grab.

14-0 Eagles, 1st and 10 @ the 20. Wildcat…..8 defenders in 5 yard of LOS. Green for 2. 2nd and 8, trips right, Sanchez under center, 1 RB…Sanchez appears to audible something….5 yard run, 3rd and 3. Bunch WR set and 1 WR at the top, Sanchez in shotgun, 1 RB, 2 Eagles DE are only defenders on LOS, LBers and Safety delay blitz, Sanches sees it, looks like encroachment, called false start…Looks like encroachment, I think BS Call…..actual replay looks like Hunter moves his hand to grab #93 who is already in the neutral zone. 3rd and 8, 4 reviver set, Sanchez in Shotgun, 1 RB. Defense is standing around looks like 2 down linemen, Corners playing man, except for bottom receiver, 3 LBers Blitz, Safety Blitzes, 1 Receiver is Burress, on a skinny post, clearly being held, but Sancez doesn’t throw, takes the snap…..looks like there is nowhere else to throw the ball….we punt.
My opinion, we havent looked at the film from any Eagle game, or even any play from the previos series, Once again we cant figure out what to do offensively, to include picking up the blitz.


2nd QTR 21-0 Ball on the 9. 1 WR, 1 RB, Jumbo set, we don’t even take up 1/3 of the field. 9 Defenders within 10 yards of the LOC. LT up the middle for 8 yards. 2nd and 2, 1 WR, I formation, 8 defenders in the box, 10 defenders within 10 yards of the LOS. Pitch to LT, no one fooled, 0 gain. 3rd and 2, 3 WR, 1RB, 6 in the box, looks like man to man, busted play, Sanchez fumbles, Eagles recover. Looked like Sanchez thought it was a run, everyone else thought it was a pass.
My opinion. Whatever Shitty has practiced all week, is news to either Sanchez or the rest of the team. Blame is on Sanchez on this one.

28-0, 1st and 10, ball on the 21. 2 WR, I Formation. 8 defenders in the box, 6 yard run. 2nd and 4, pass to Keller, 12 yards. 1st and 10. Deep pass to Keller, for 41 yards…(Holy shit) Great catch. 1st and 10 ) Eagle 20. 2 WR, 2 RB, Quick pass for 5 yards, 2nd and 5, pass, Sanchez sacked, Eagles have 7 in the box, 2 safeties less than 10 yards off the LOS, and playing man. LT looks open out of the backfield, Sanchez doesn’t have much time, Sacked. Eagles blitz 6. 3rd and 11, 4 WR, 1 RB, Sanchez in Shotgun. Eagles have down lineman. Eagles look to back off, in a soft cover zone. 4 man rush, Sanchez throws to # 88, he is double covered, Greene is running a route, looks open for 3 yard gain. The way the formation is, you end up with Burress on the top, 1 on 1, then you have Holmes motion and there is kind of a bunch 3 receiver set. Ball is snapped, Sanchez doesn’t look at Burress at all, but looked like he actually got inside position and was open, not sure how far off the safety is, but isn’t in the picture. The bunch formation is Holmes, 88, and McKnight. They end up with Green running a 3 or 4 yard route, McKnight a 2 yard route, 88 is about a 5 or 6 yard route, and the 3 receivers end up in the same area, like within 10-15 yards of each other, all less than 6 yard downfield. Eagles linebackers sit in between and over the top, easy defensive coverage, and easy knockdown. We settle for a FG.
My opinion. If we cant move the ball down by 28, or call plays to help Sanchez, we arent gonna win shit.

28-3, Jets get it right back on fumbled KO. Ball on the Eagles 24. 3 WR, 2 RB, 8 in the box for the Eagles. Screen to Greene, no gain, nobody fooled. 2nd and 10. 3 WR, 1 RB, Sanchez in shotgun. Pass, Burress is clearly held, but not really looking for the ball. Kind of back shoulder, but clearly PI. 1st and 10. Run, 8 in the box, no gain….Nobody fooled. 2nd and 11, 1 WR, 1 RB. Couple of TEs. 4 DE, 3 LBers running around. Eagles end up with 8 in the box…..Sanchez overthrows Holmes, Flag for holding on the offense. 2nd and 21. 5 receivers, Sancez steps up and makes a perfect throw, TD Holmes. Best throw of the game for Sanchez.
My opinion, Sanchez makes a nice throw, stepping up in the pocket to gain time. Negative, it looks like he looked the whole way at Holmes, throw was in triple coverage, but a perfect throw. Shotty still doesnt have a friggen clue.

28-10, Defense forces a fumble. 1st and 10 @ the Eagle 27. Pass play, End Zone, poor throw by Sanchez, should have been picked. 2nd and 10 Conner up the middle for 7, quick play, 3rd and 3……same bunch 3 WR set, Kerley for a 1st down. 6 man rush, picked up nicely by OL, Good throw to an open WR. 1st and 10, False start….1st and 15. 8th penalty of the day, after the 2 minute warning? WTF? 1 WR, I Formation, 10 Eagles in the box, PA, Sanchez overthrows Keller. Design of play kind of sucks, Sanchez was running for his life. 3rd and 12, Sanchez to LT for 6 yards, Hunter got beat bad, Sanchez stepped up to make the throw. FG.
28-13. We get the ball, Good return by Cromoartie. 1st and 10 ball on the Jets 41. 3 yard run…..2nd and 7. Greene for 3 more yards, 3rd and 4. Sanchez to Kerley for the 1st down. At this point, I give up. I cant write about this anymore.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:18 AM

Hopefully the Dolphins hire Brian Schottenheimer as their HC or someone does.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 01:44 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 19 December 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

Hopefully the Dolphins hire Brian Schottenheimer as their HC or someone does.

That screen pass on the first drive ticked me off because I am a big believer in the "run it down their throats until they show they can stop it" theory. Personally this one falls on the brain trust of the team. I have posted all year about this stuff but after yesterday, it needs to be said again. If you are unprepared to lose your starting QB because you were negligent in getting a backup who can do more than hand off (Brunell) and still needs time (McElroy), then you do not go into a season or even a game without any plan B in case one of the OL gets hurt (Nick) or just flat out sucks (Hunter). How in the world can they be that stupid?
I can half understand the contract given to Wayne but they played games with Woody and went all of August knowing Hunter was a big gamble and that Vladamir Duke ass was their single best and only backup lineman. A decent lawyer might be able to sue the FO for negligence when Sanchez gets hurt; that is kinda a joke but not 100%
For all the good moves made under Tannenbaum's management, this season backtracking counters them all. We have more needs than an NFL team should ever have. We all know them and even after changing W R's each year, we still don't have a medium term solution. There is enough young talent on the team that we should lower our expectations for one season beyond this one and sign and draft young guys who can and will be playing in green for many years to come.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 05:54 PM

View Postjetfan4life12, on 19 December 2011 - 11:44 AM, said:

That screen pass on the first drive ticked me off because I am a big believer in the "run it down their throats until they show they can stop it" theory. Personally this one falls on the brain trust of the team. I have posted all year about this stuff but after yesterday, it needs to be said again. If you are unprepared to lose your starting QB because you were negligent in getting a backup who can do more than hand off (Brunell) and still needs time (McElroy), then you do not go into a season or even a game without any plan B in case one of the OL gets hurt (Nick) or just flat out sucks (Hunter). How in the world can they be that stupid?
I can half understand the contract given to Wayne but they played games with Woody and went all of August knowing Hunter was a big gamble and that Vladamir Duke ass was their single best and only backup lineman. A decent lawyer might be able to sue the FO for negligence when Sanchez gets hurt; that is kinda a joke but not 100%
For all the good moves made under Tannenbaum's management, this season backtracking counters them all. We have more needs than an NFL team should ever have. We all know them and even after changing W R's each year, we still don't have a medium term solution. There is enough young talent on the team that we should lower our expectations for one season beyond this one and sign and draft young guys who can and will be playing in green for many years to come.


The screen pass didnt work all night, and it was called 3 times that I saw. I never saw it agianst those blitzs that Eaggles were killing us with.
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