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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
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Jets Pathetic Offense. My opinion on where the problem is.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 08:28 AM

I have been wanting to do this all year, finally said F it and did it. Hope it is a decent assesment.

Plays of the Eagles Game
Start off with a big hit on the KO. Then good play by D to string out run, gain of about 1 yard….2nd and 9, long pass play, no pressure, wide open receiver. Then D forces a punt.

0-0 Punt is FC at the 4. 1st down, obvious run, 9 defenders in the box, 2 yard gain. 2nd and 10, 7 in the box, Green up the middle for 14 yards, first down. 1st and 10 Wildcat run for 6 yards. Here is where the BS Begins. Jets formation barely takes up 1/2 of the field 2 WR, 2RB, Sanchez under center, 10 Defenders within 6 yards of the line of scrimich. But we get Green up the middle for 13 yards. 1st down, even commentators say Eagles struggle with the run. We go to shotgun formation, 3 WR, 1RB, 10 Eagles are within 5 yards of the LOS. Screen to LT, didn’t surprise anyone in the defense, 4 yard loss. Then 2nd and 14. Shotgun, empty,5 recievers, 5 yard pass play, fumbled on the hit, returned for a TD. Jets had 5 recievers being covered by 7 defenders.
My thoughts, the drive starts with 4 rushes for 35 yards and we go to the pass? Shitty is an idiot…Holmes cant fumble there, but bear with us because it gets a whole lot better.

7-0 Eagles. 1st and 10 @ the 30. Same BS 2 receiver set, 10 defenders within 5 yards of the LOS. Quick slant, incomplete, PI called, 1st down. 1st Down….3 receiver set, Green in the backfield, Sanchez under center. 11 defenders within 13 yard of the LOS. 3 Yard run, 2nd and 7, 2 receivers 2 RB, TE in motion, the formation is small, and I mean we are all inside the numbers by at least 10 yards… Again 10 defenders in the box, 1 safety at 14 yards downfield. PA Pass, Sanchez in an 8 or 9 step drop, doesn’t even set his feet and is sacked. 6 man rush no open receivers where Sanchez could have thought about completing the pass, sacked immediately. 3rd and 14, 4 receiver set, trips right, 1 RB and Sanchez in shotgun. 2 Down Linemen for Eagles, 2 LBers delay blitz, Screen to LT for 9 yards, Eagles keep everyone in front, make tackle. Punt muffed, we recover at the 14. 1st and 10.n…. 2 receiver set, I Formation, 11 Eagles are within 9 yards of LOS….Run play, nothing, 2nd and 10, Sanchez in shotgun, 3 WR, 2 RB, 7 yard pass play, Holmes lets it go through his hands, INT. 4 man rush, both RBs in each flat, No Recovers are open. Conner looks to be wide open to the left, but Sanchez is looking right all the way. No pressure on Sanchez. Obviously a huge turning point for the game.
My opinion. The Eagles are obviosly daring us to beat them with the pass, But due to the playcall, there is really nothing simple for Sanchez. Once again, Holmes has got to make that grab.

14-0 Eagles, 1st and 10 @ the 20. Wildcat…..8 defenders in 5 yard of LOS. Green for 2. 2nd and 8, trips right, Sanchez under center, 1 RB…Sanchez appears to audible something….5 yard run, 3rd and 3. Bunch WR set and 1 WR at the top, Sanchez in shotgun, 1 RB, 2 Eagles DE are only defenders on LOS, LBers and Safety delay blitz, Sanches sees it, looks like encroachment, called false start…Looks like encroachment, I think BS Call…..actual replay looks like Hunter moves his hand to grab #93 who is already in the neutral zone. 3rd and 8, 4 reviver set, Sanchez in Shotgun, 1 RB. Defense is standing around looks like 2 down linemen, Corners playing man, except for bottom receiver, 3 LBers Blitz, Safety Blitzes, 1 Receiver is Burress, on a skinny post, clearly being held, but Sancez doesn’t throw, takes the snap…..looks like there is nowhere else to throw the ball….we punt.
My opinion, we havent looked at the film from any Eagle game, or even any play from the previos series, Once again we cant figure out what to do offensively, to include picking up the blitz.


2nd QTR 21-0 Ball on the 9. 1 WR, 1 RB, Jumbo set, we don’t even take up 1/3 of the field. 9 Defenders within 10 yards of the LOC. LT up the middle for 8 yards. 2nd and 2, 1 WR, I formation, 8 defenders in the box, 10 defenders within 10 yards of the LOS. Pitch to LT, no one fooled, 0 gain. 3rd and 2, 3 WR, 1RB, 6 in the box, looks like man to man, busted play, Sanchez fumbles, Eagles recover. Looked like Sanchez thought it was a run, everyone else thought it was a pass.
My opinion. Whatever Shitty has practiced all week, is news to either Sanchez or the rest of the team. Blame is on Sanchez on this one.

28-0, 1st and 10, ball on the 21. 2 WR, I Formation. 8 defenders in the box, 6 yard run. 2nd and 4, pass to Keller, 12 yards. 1st and 10. Deep pass to Keller, for 41 yards…(Holy shit) Great catch. 1st and 10 ) Eagle 20. 2 WR, 2 RB, Quick pass for 5 yards, 2nd and 5, pass, Sanchez sacked, Eagles have 7 in the box, 2 safeties less than 10 yards off the LOS, and playing man. LT looks open out of the backfield, Sanchez doesn’t have much time, Sacked. Eagles blitz 6. 3rd and 11, 4 WR, 1 RB, Sanchez in Shotgun. Eagles have down lineman. Eagles look to back off, in a soft cover zone. 4 man rush, Sanchez throws to # 88, he is double covered, Greene is running a route, looks open for 3 yard gain. The way the formation is, you end up with Burress on the top, 1 on 1, then you have Holmes motion and there is kind of a bunch 3 receiver set. Ball is snapped, Sanchez doesn’t look at Burress at all, but looked like he actually got inside position and was open, not sure how far off the safety is, but isn’t in the picture. The bunch formation is Holmes, 88, and McKnight. They end up with Green running a 3 or 4 yard route, McKnight a 2 yard route, 88 is about a 5 or 6 yard route, and the 3 receivers end up in the same area, like within 10-15 yards of each other, all less than 6 yard downfield. Eagles linebackers sit in between and over the top, easy defensive coverage, and easy knockdown. We settle for a FG.
My opinion. If we cant move the ball down by 28, or call plays to help Sanchez, we arent gonna win shit.

28-3, Jets get it right back on fumbled KO. Ball on the Eagles 24. 3 WR, 2 RB, 8 in the box for the Eagles. Screen to Greene, no gain, nobody fooled. 2nd and 10. 3 WR, 1 RB, Sanchez in shotgun. Pass, Burress is clearly held, but not really looking for the ball. Kind of back shoulder, but clearly PI. 1st and 10. Run, 8 in the box, no gain….Nobody fooled. 2nd and 11, 1 WR, 1 RB. Couple of TEs. 4 DE, 3 LBers running around. Eagles end up with 8 in the box…..Sanchez overthrows Holmes, Flag for holding on the offense. 2nd and 21. 5 receivers, Sancez steps up and makes a perfect throw, TD Holmes. Best throw of the game for Sanchez.
My opinion, Sanchez makes a nice throw, stepping up in the pocket to gain time. Negative, it looks like he looked the whole way at Holmes, throw was in triple coverage, but a perfect throw. Shotty still doesnt have a friggen clue.

28-10, Defense forces a fumble. 1st and 10 @ the Eagle 27. Pass play, End Zone, poor throw by Sanchez, should have been picked. 2nd and 10 Conner up the middle for 7, quick play, 3rd and 3……same bunch 3 WR set, Kerley for a 1st down. 6 man rush, picked up nicely by OL, Good throw to an open WR. 1st and 10, False start….1st and 15. 8th penalty of the day, after the 2 minute warning? WTF? 1 WR, I Formation, 10 Eagles in the box, PA, Sanchez overthrows Keller. Design of play kind of sucks, Sanchez was running for his life. 3rd and 12, Sanchez to LT for 6 yards, Hunter got beat bad, Sanchez stepped up to make the throw. FG.
28-13. We get the ball, Good return by Cromoartie. 1st and 10 ball on the Jets 41. 3 yard run…..2nd and 7. Greene for 3 more yards, 3rd and 4. Sanchez to Kerley for the 1st down. At this point, I give up. I cant write about this anymore.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:18 AM

Hopefully the Dolphins hire Brian Schottenheimer as their HC or someone does.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 01:44 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 19 December 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

Hopefully the Dolphins hire Brian Schottenheimer as their HC or someone does.

That screen pass on the first drive ticked me off because I am a big believer in the "run it down their throats until they show they can stop it" theory. Personally this one falls on the brain trust of the team. I have posted all year about this stuff but after yesterday, it needs to be said again. If you are unprepared to lose your starting QB because you were negligent in getting a backup who can do more than hand off (Brunell) and still needs time (McElroy), then you do not go into a season or even a game without any plan B in case one of the OL gets hurt (Nick) or just flat out sucks (Hunter). How in the world can they be that stupid?
I can half understand the contract given to Wayne but they played games with Woody and went all of August knowing Hunter was a big gamble and that Vladamir Duke ass was their single best and only backup lineman. A decent lawyer might be able to sue the FO for negligence when Sanchez gets hurt; that is kinda a joke but not 100%
For all the good moves made under Tannenbaum's management, this season backtracking counters them all. We have more needs than an NFL team should ever have. We all know them and even after changing W R's each year, we still don't have a medium term solution. There is enough young talent on the team that we should lower our expectations for one season beyond this one and sign and draft young guys who can and will be playing in green for many years to come.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 05:54 PM

View Postjetfan4life12, on 19 December 2011 - 11:44 AM, said:

That screen pass on the first drive ticked me off because I am a big believer in the "run it down their throats until they show they can stop it" theory. Personally this one falls on the brain trust of the team. I have posted all year about this stuff but after yesterday, it needs to be said again. If you are unprepared to lose your starting QB because you were negligent in getting a backup who can do more than hand off (Brunell) and still needs time (McElroy), then you do not go into a season or even a game without any plan B in case one of the OL gets hurt (Nick) or just flat out sucks (Hunter). How in the world can they be that stupid?
I can half understand the contract given to Wayne but they played games with Woody and went all of August knowing Hunter was a big gamble and that Vladamir Duke ass was their single best and only backup lineman. A decent lawyer might be able to sue the FO for negligence when Sanchez gets hurt; that is kinda a joke but not 100%
For all the good moves made under Tannenbaum's management, this season backtracking counters them all. We have more needs than an NFL team should ever have. We all know them and even after changing W R's each year, we still don't have a medium term solution. There is enough young talent on the team that we should lower our expectations for one season beyond this one and sign and draft young guys who can and will be playing in green for many years to come.


The screen pass didnt work all night, and it was called 3 times that I saw. I never saw it agianst those blitzs that Eaggles were killing us with.
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