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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:00 AM

Last year...we were just so so so close. And now, were just so so so far away. Same Old Jets.

I didn't even bother watching today's game. I almost forgot we even had a game.

Also, to the person who, before the season, said you rather have Sanchez than Brady. Get a clue.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:13 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 23 August 2011 - 05:25 PM, said:

Who would you rather have in the post season? The Patriot's Brady who is 2-3 in the playoffs since they got busted cheating or the 4-2 Jets Sanchez? I know who I'd rather have and his first name sure as hell isn't Tom. It all comes down to what have you done for me lately and Sanchez has come up bigger than Brady.

Brought this back from August. You wanna talk about what have you done for me lately? Lately, Tom Brady won his 9th division title, got a first round bye, and did so with the worst defense in the league. Sanchez cant win a division with a good defense and finally couldn't ride the coattails of his teammates into the playoffs.

So lately, Sanchez sucks, and Brady is still a hall-of-famer.

I'm so frustrated right now. Sanchez is coming back and he's not good. The Jets aren't going to admit they made a mistake so the franchise is just going to continue to be set back. This is like the Pennington stuff all over again. From 2005-2007, no matter how broken Pennington was, they kept sticking with him. The difference was, Pennington was actually a good QB who got hurt and was too fragile for the NFL. Sanchez just isn't good whatsoever.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:39 AM

See how fast fans turn. Jets have been in the playoffs and have given Jets fans hope quite a bit the last 10-12 years. We've seen a bunch of playoff berths and just recently went to 2 AFC champ games. Jets have 1.. just 1 season in Rex's tenure as head coach and people turn and revert back to same old Jets? This is what I HATE about this fan-base. It's disgusting. See the thing is, the fans, the blogs, the message boards who resort to this silly B.S trickles down to the team and players. It resonates within the team. I know the Jets have fielded some bad teams over the years but the constant influx of same old Jets rhetoric has stained this team. It's like this team could win and get into the playoffs for 10 years but have 1 year they don't and people start with the SOJ crap. :sterb041:

I kinda agree with about Sanchez.

As for Sanchez I tend to agree. I don't think he has the mentality to be "the guy" he looks lost, remember him folding his head on Braylons shoulder during our home game vs phins at home? the deer in the headlights look he gets . Not having no balls to blast a WR for running the wrong route. IT'S YOUR OFFENSE BUD!! ACT LIKE IT'S YOURS. To go along with his awful pocket awareness and erratic accuracy and ball security. (he needed to be taught how to slide) That should have been a red flag right there. I've tried to give him time and be patient but when your 3 years in and your team/ O.C and H.C call wildcat on 3rd and 10 they have ZERO trust in you.

It's frightening because Rex overly believes in him like he's the guy. The offense has been an absolute mess. Like someone said on here. Even bad QB's can get your star WR yards and T.D's.

Guys year 3, has had all the available help he could have, all these mentors, coaches, speakers.. reading books whatever. He just doesn't have it. I don't care who's the offensive coordinator the guy has a hard time playing the position. Do I want him to succeed? of course I just don't see it. He has about 2 scoring drives in him per game. Usually one in the 2Q and one in the 4Q after multiple 3 and outs and stalled drives. I understand the OL and their woes, I know the running game hasn't been what it was supposed to be but damn man. You are getting paid MILLIONS to practice and get better and have every resource at your disposal. Even when we went to the playoffs he was playing like this. WORSE actually.

This season is the past 2 seasons minus the magic and luck.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:40 AM

Give me a QB with Pennington's talent and Sanchez's durability and I'll be happy. I miss Pennington...MAKE HIM THE OC!
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:49 AM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 02 January 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

Brought this back from August. You wanna talk about what have you done for me lately? Lately, Tom Brady won his 9th division title, got a first round bye, and did so with the worst defense in the league. Sanchez cant win a division with a good defense and finally couldn't ride the coattails of his teammates into the playoffs.

So lately, Sanchez sucks, and Brady is still a hall-of-famer.

I'm so frustrated right now. Sanchez is coming back and he's not good. The Jets aren't going to admit they made a mistake so the franchise is just going to continue to be set back. This is like the Pennington stuff all over again. From 2005-2007, no matter how broken Pennington was, they kept sticking with him. The difference was, Pennington was actually a good QB who got hurt and was too fragile for the NFL. Sanchez just isn't good whatsoever.

The Jets cannot give up on him yet. Carl Banks said it this week-- "He can make all of the throws and he is athletic.". Was he terrible this year? Yes. But unlike Pennington, there are no physical limitations. Sanchez can give the Jets what Alex Smith gives the Niners... and perhaps a little bit more. Next season should be his final shot. I would bring somene in like Jason Campbell to push him. Don't get caught up in what you see Rodgers and Brady do. The likelihood of getting a quarterback like that is slim to none.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 05:15 AM

I am not ready to give up on Sanchez yet. I didnt render a decision on if I ""Liked" him til week 6 in his 1st season. The kid is something special & HOPE management doesnt give up on him too soon. Its not like he is vernon Gholston for phuksake! I agree he has to get it & get it FAST, going into season 4 now...but dam as a fan, I HATE our own "die hard" fans who flip flop or dont get behind our QB.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 05:57 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 02 January 2012 - 04:39 AM, said:

See how fast fans turn. Jets have been in the playoffs and have given Jets fans hope quite a bit the last 10-12 years. We've seen a bunch of playoff berths and just recently went to 2 AFC champ games. Jets have 1.. just 1 season in Rex's tenure as head coach and people turn and revert back to same old Jets? This is what I HATE about this fan-base. It's disgusting. See the thing is, the fans, the blogs, the message boards who resort to this silly B.S trickles down to the team and players. It resonates within the team. I know the Jets have fielded some bad teams over the years but the constant influx of same old Jets rhetoric has stained this team. It's like this team could win and get into the playoffs for 10 years but have 1 year they don't and people start with the SOJ crap. :sterb041:

I kinda agree with about Sanchez.

As for Sanchez I tend to agree. I don't think he has the mentality to be "the guy" he looks lost, remember him folding his head on Braylons shoulder during our home game vs phins at home? the deer in the headlights look he gets . Not having no balls to blast a WR for running the wrong route. IT'S YOUR OFFENSE BUD!! ACT LIKE IT'S YOURS. To go along with his awful pocket awareness and erratic accuracy and ball security. (he needed to be taught how to slide) That should have been a red flag right there. I've tried to give him time and be patient but when your 3 years in and your team/ O.C and H.C call wildcat on 3rd and 10 they have ZERO trust in you.

It's frightening because Rex overly believes in him like he's the guy. The offense has been an absolute mess. Like someone said on here. Even bad QB's can get your star WR yards and T.D's.

Guys year 3, has had all the available help he could have, all these mentors, coaches, speakers.. reading books whatever. He just doesn't have it. I don't care who's the offensive coordinator the guy has a hard time playing the position. Do I want him to succeed? of course I just don't see it. He has about 2 scoring drives in him per game. Usually one in the 2Q and one in the 4Q after multiple 3 and outs and stalled drives. I understand the OL and their woes, I know the running game hasn't been what it was supposed to be but damn man. You are getting paid MILLIONS to practice and get better and have every resource at your disposal. Even when we went to the playoffs he was playing like this. WORSE actually.

This season is the past 2 seasons minus the magic and luck.

Okay, its 6 am and I'm tired so I'm only commenting on paragraph 1. There was never any change from being the same old jets. The Jets werent suddenly winners. They were just a team that got close and continued to choke.

In 1998 they had a 10-0 lead against Denver that they choked away.

In 2002 they had the AFC favorite Raiders on the ropes and were tied 10-10 at halftime before failing to show up in the second half.

In 2004, Doug Brien....well, Doug Brien.

In 2009 they had an 11 point lead on Indianapolis and choked it away by getting shut out in the second half.

And last year, everybody couldn't wait. And then nothing happened. 60 minutes away from ending 41 years of emptiness...and the game ended before it even began.

Nothing but chokes...that's just as bad as never winning. It's like being the Chicago Cubs and the Boston Red Sox (pre-2004) at the same time. We never win, and then the few times we put something together, we choke it away. It's really just the same old Jets.

Nevermind the fact that the Jets have won a whopping TWO division titles in their history. And not one since 2002. Oh and remember, the Jets had a chance to take a stranglehold of the division both last year and this year and got blasted by New England twice.

Frankly, I like Rex Ryan. I seem to be in the minority at this point. But he isn't going to give up on Sanchez, and that is going to end up being a problem.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:02 AM

View PostCamenzind, on 02 January 2012 - 04:49 AM, said:

The Jets cannot give up on him yet. Carl Banks said it this week-- "He can make all of the throws and he is athletic.". Was he terrible this year? Yes. But unlike Pennington, there are no physical limitations. Sanchez can give the Jets what Alex Smith gives the Niners... and perhaps a little bit more. Next season should be his final shot. I would bring somene in like Jason Campbell to push him. Don't get caught up in what you see Rodgers and Brady do. The likelihood of getting a quarterback like that is slim to none.

Um...he CANT make all the throws. I know, I watched him play this year. I mean, once in a while he can hit a receiver. But more often than not, if its not an easy dump off, he's wild. It's quite obvious that if his go-to receiver is taken away from him on a given play, he's done. He can't adjust, he cant get the ball to other guys on the field. He's looking for one guy, on any given play. If he's open, he may get the pass completed; if he's covered, the play is over and Sanchez collapses. So I don't know exactly why people are even trying to make it seem like he's doing things right.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:07 AM

View PostarizonaJETSfan, on 02 January 2012 - 05:15 AM, said:

I am not ready to give up on Sanchez yet. I didnt render a decision on if I ""Liked" him til week 6 in his 1st season. The kid is something special & HOPE management doesnt give up on him too soon. Its not like he is vernon Gholston for phuksake! I agree he has to get it & get it FAST, going into season 4 now...but dam as a fan, I HATE our own "die hard" fans who flip flop or dont get behind our QB.

Hmmm k. Here's the thing with that. I was behind Sanchez until he didn't become a good QB after plenty of time.

Take a look at what Stafford has done, with so much less. And no, just because he has one guy named Calvin Johnson, doesn't mean he has more.

I'm done being behind a QB who isn't any good. I don't care if he's athletic, everyone in the NFL is. I don't care if he can hit a receiver in practice. I'm pretty sure you can do that. I'm a die hard Jets fan, I'm not a die hard Sanchez fan. I'm more interested in winning a Superbowl than giving a lousy QB more time to fail miserably.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:23 AM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 02 January 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

I didn't even bother watching today's game. I almost forgot we even had a game.


Good news: there are thirty-one other NFL teams for you to go be a fan of.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:41 AM

View PostA1elbow, on 02 January 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

Good news: there are thirty-one other NFL teams for you to go be a fan of.

I rather bitch and complain about this one year after year.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:00 AM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 02 January 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

Last year...we were just so so so close. And now, were just so so so far away. Same Old Jets.

I didn't even bother watching today's game. I almost forgot we even had a game.

Also, to the person who, before the season, said you rather have Sanchez than Brady. Get a clue.



I stand by my statement regarding Sanchez. In his "horrible" year, he managed to set a Jets single season TD record with an inept Offensive Coordinator. Sanchez has proven he can win when given time rather than getting blasted and being the most sacked QB of the year. You say that if his #1 receiver is covered, he collapses. Really? How many plays has he extended since he's been here? Another thing regarding how lousy he's done this season......how many half assed or half hearted routes were being run by Plax & Holmes? It's pretty sad when the O-line has to call out a WR for dogging it and not even trying. Who's Sanchez supposed to pass it to if his receivers aren't even trying to get open? If he set the record with the guys he had, how many would he have had if the receivers actually played with a little bit of heart? It's a bit hard to have the league's #1 red zone offense if you don't have a QB that knows what he's doing.

Sanchez has a lot of room for improvement, but stop acting like he's a bust. You know as well as I do that it takes 5 years to develop a QB. For this kid to do what he has done with limited experience, no real consistency with WR's to where he can build a tandem with, an OC that calls nothing but 3-10 yard pass plays or screens is actually more impressive than people credit him for.

Yes.....he gets rattled and at times can't handle the pressure when he fears for his life. Wayne Hunter alone is responsible for just short of 60 knock downs/sacks. Your boys Favre or Pennington would've been on injured reserve long ago. You praise Brady. Let me ask you.....how does Brady perform when he's getting slammed? Exactly the same as Sanchez from what I remember.

What has Brady done lately? Throw for 5000 yards? Big deal. Talk to me if he wins the superbowl. If he doesn't, all of those yards & points don't mean a damn thing and puts him in the same position as Sanchez. Just another QB to not win it all this year. So now who needs to get a clue?
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:42 AM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 02 January 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

In 2009 they had an 11 point lead on Indianapolis and choked it away by getting shut out in the second half.


Hard to call it a choke, when your facing the best QB in history in his house.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 10:17 AM

With a strong offseason we will be stronger than ever next season, I truly believe that. Sometimes you need to take a step back before you can take that leap forward. If missing the playoffs finally gets rid of Schotty, great, we will probably be better off for it.
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