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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Boomer Torches Rex, Sanchez Sanchez is a chihuahua entering the Midtown Tunnel

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:42 PM

Boomer torches Rex, Sanchez http://espn.go.com/b...hes-rex-sanchez

Say this for Boomer Esiason: He's not shy about expressing his opinion. On Wednesday morning, the former Jets quarterback was a guest on a Boston radio station and torched his old team, ripping Rex Ryan, GM Mike Tannenbaum and QB Mark Sanchez.

Actually, "ripped" might be an understatement. He napalmed the Jets, especially Sanchez, whom he referred to as a "chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what."

This is what Esiason, a studio analyst for CBS, had to say about the Jets' collapse, according to quotes that appear on WEEI's web site:

"I think that Rex Ryan's ways have come back to haunt him. And Mike Tannenbaum, the general manager down here, has a lot of responsibility in this regard, because they have put a lot of bad guys together in this locker room. There's a good core of players for the New York Jets. But unfortunately, all it takes is one guy. And Rex Ryan giving Santonio Holmes the captain's 'C' on the chest was an absolute embarrassment. It's a slap in the face of all the good guys in that locker room.

"They have a major problem with [Holmes], because they're going to owe him $15 million guaranteed over the next two years if, in fact, they keep him on the roster next year. They can't cut him, I don't think. And I don't think anybody's going to want to trade for him. So, they've got themselves a handful."

Esiason turned his attention to Sanchez, with this:

"And then this morning in the paper, Jets fans don't want Mark Sanchez back. But this is the world of the Jets. It stays together for a little bit, and then all of a sudden it spirals out of control. And then they have a head coach that kind of exacerbates all of it."

Asked about the possibility of Peyton Manning going to the Jets, Esiason said: "Everywhere you look, that's what they're saying. But first of all, we don't even know if Peyton's able to play. If Peyton is able to play and the new general manager and whoever they hire to run that team out there decides to go without Peyton Manning, then I'm sure that the Jets will be sniffing around. Because that's what the Jets do.

"They're trying to find their Tom Brady. They're trying to find their Aaron Rodgers. And I don't think, in their mind, they think that they feel like they've found the kid. If you watched Mark Sanchez the last month of the season, he was like a chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what, and just so shaky."
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:03 PM

View PostChaos, on 04 January 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:

"They're trying to find their Tom Brady. They're trying to find their Aaron Rodgers. And I don't think, in their mind, they think that they feel like they've found the kid. If you watched Mark Sanchez the last month of the season, he was like a chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what, and just so shaky."



While I agree with most of what Boomer said there .. I have take exception to this last bit

How long did Brady and Rodgers get to watch from the sidelines before being thrown into the starting role? I realize its year 3 for this guy and he absolutely should be better than he is. But he is still very young and could likely be a great QB in this league .. I was pissed on SUnday but over all Im totally fine with #6 behind center for at least one more year .. but this time with a real O.C.!!
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:12 PM

Sanchez is far from an elite qb at this point. He has always been kind of nervous in the pocket. Even when we were winning. He is still growing into this role. He is 24 not 27 or 30. I know that sounds like only a few years but it is a world in maturity. Looking on the bright side he did have some of his best numbers with the least amount of talent around him. I do believe that says something. Give him some tools to work with and get him to calm downout there and we will be fine.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:41 PM

Anyone remember what the first play of the season was? Sanchez getting drilled by Ware. He was sacked 39 times... but how many times was he hit? He developed David Carr syndrome. Whether it was just for this year or forever remains to be seen but you can't fault anyone, especially a young guy in a bad offense to get beat down all year and then lose all composure in December. I'm waiting for the Jets to announce that Sanchez is having some sort of surgical procedure because the way he got hit this year, I'm surprised he even played every game.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:08 PM

What does the Taco bell dog have to do with this?
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:17 PM

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What does the Taco bell dog have to do with this?


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Posted 04 January 2012 - 06:38 PM

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:50 PM

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While I agree with most of what Boomer said there .. I have take exception to this last bit

How long did Brady and Rodgers get to watch from the sidelines before being thrown into the starting role? I realize its year 3 for this guy and he absolutely should be better than he is. But he is still very young and could likely be a great QB in this league .. I was pissed on SUnday but over all Im totally fine with #6 behind center for at least one more year .. but this time with a real O.C.!!


Brady didn't sit that long. But that's not the point. Sanchez simply is not an accurate passer. His decision making is highly suspect but maybe that could be improved over time. But accuracy at this stage is not going to improve. On top of that he misses more often behind the receiver than in front. Crossing patterns or passes over the middle are ripe for INT's if they are thrown behind the receiver.

They are so tough to find but the search for an elite QB is a must. Think about it. 4 elite QB's in the league - Brees, P. Manning, Brady and Rodgers and all of them have Super Bowl rings. You can win without one but the chances of winning with one are great. Sanchez isn't the answer unfortunately because he seems to be a great kid and a real professional. But to win with him we will need an overpowering defense and a superior running game.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

Its hard to show poise and accuracy when your constantly worried about getting the ball out before getting cracked, he's shown that when he's able to roll out and get the ball away clean he's accurate. Do I think he'll ever be poised like Peyton, no. But not every great QB has to just drop back and throw from the pocket. We need an OC that will play to his strengths.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:33 AM

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Brady didn't sit that long. But that's not the point. Sanchez simply is not an accurate passer. His decision making is highly suspect but maybe that could be improved over time. But accuracy at this stage is not going to improve. On top of that he misses more often behind the receiver than in front. Crossing patterns or passes over the middle are ripe for INT's if they are thrown behind the receiver.

They are so tough to find but the search for an elite QB is a must. Think about it. 4 elite QB's in the league - Brees, P. Manning, Brady and Rodgers and all of them have Super Bowl rings. You can win without one but the chances of winning with one are great. Sanchez isn't the answer unfortunately because he seems to be a great kid and a real professional. But to win with him we will need an overpowering defense and a superior running game.


To win with him now yes but who knows if we give him time ( I cringe as I write that)
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:41 AM

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Everybody, it seems, is ripping the New York Jets -- even their former players.

Ex-quarterback Boomer Esiason, appearing Wednesday morning on a Boston radio station, criticized coach Rex Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum for putting "a lot of bad guys together in (the) locker room." But he saved his harshest remarks for quarterback Mark Sanchez.

"If you watched Mark Sanchez the last month of the season, he was like a chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what, and just so shaky," said Esiason, according to quotes that appear on WEEI's web site.

Esiason, reached by ESPNNewYork.com, said the chihuahua line wasn't a reference to Sanchez's Mexican-American heritage. Esiason explained: "I chose a small dog that always looks shaken and has big eyes, and doesn't like big things -- a chihuahua. It's a skittish dog and he's been a skittish player."

Esiason believes the Jets' hierarchy isn't convinced that Sanchez is a franchise quarterback, and he wouldn't be surprised if they explore the possibility of acquiring the Colts' Peyton Manning if the Super Bowl winner and league MVP becomes available.

"If Peyton is able to play and the new general manager (in Indianapolis) and whoever they hire to run that team out there decides to go without Peyton Manning, then I'm sure that the Jets will be sniffing around," said Esiason, a CBS studio analyst who lives in the New York area. "Because that's what the Jets do. They're trying to find their Tom Brady. They're trying to find their Aaron Rodgers. And I don't think, in their mind, they think that they feel like they've found the kid."

Sanchez committed a career-high 26 turnovers, including nine in the final three games -- all Jets losses. The Jets finished 8-8, bitterly disappointing for a team that had Super Bowl aspirations.

Esiason blamed Ryan and Tannenbaum for the locker-room strife, a season-long issue that erupted with the Santonio Holmes fiasco in a season-ending loss in Miami. Holmes jawed with teammates in the huddle and was benched late in the game.

"I think that Rex Ryan's ways have come back to haunt him," Esiason said. "And Mike Tannenbaum ... has a lot of responsibility in this regard, because they have put a lot of bad guys together in this locker room. There's a good core of players for the New York Jets. But unfortunately, all it takes is one guy. And Rex Ryan giving Santonio Holmes the captain's 'C' on the chest was an absolute embarrassment. It's a slap in the face of all the good guys in that locker room."

Esiason said the Jets have a "major problem" with Holmes because of the guaranteed money he's owed -- $7.75 million, which becomes $15.25 million if he's on the roster after Feb. 8.

"They can't cut him, I don't think. And I don't think anybody's going to want to trade for him," Esiason said. "So, they've got themselves a handful."

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