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azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:23 PM) Actually don't we win the tie breaker with Jax? So fourth?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:32 PM) I haven't paid attention to the tiebreakers, I'll wait to see what it looks like after next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:39 PM) Read my DRAFT thread. No we DONT have 4th. Ive been updating it
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) Wow the AFC has 11 teams with 8 wins or more right now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) 12
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) 13 if cle wins next week
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) draft order (1)Wins
(2)Schedule strength (harder schedule strength lower pick not higher)
(3) conference wins)
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:41 PM) HAHA my bad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:42 PM) 11 teams with 8 wins and 12 if cle wins next week
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:51 PM) The draft order isn't like the playoffs. Head to head games are way down on the list. Its clearly listed Wins first then schedule strength then conference wins. Its not hard to do a simple search
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:54 PM) The teams above us that need a QB are the Bucs and maybe Titans
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:54 PM) Zach Mettenberger seems promising, but they could still go QB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:54 PM) The Raiders and Jaguars won't draft QB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:00 PM) Jets interested in Todd Bowles? Not my favorite HC candidate. More of the same for woody...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:03 PM) hire another rookie DC. If we keep Idzik too, I'd be pissed.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:10 PM) Heck the Raiders Buffalo game is the only good game. Colts and Rams getting blown out. I figured the Dallas Indy game would be better
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:11 PM) It would be nice to see the raiders get the win to move up a spot but Im not sure about any of the qbs i this draft so I really dont think it matters
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:13 PM) might be better off rolling the dice and moving down a few spots to get more picks unless there is a solid olinemanworth taking at the 4th or 5th spot
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:14 PM) Id rather the Jets go after Cutler than take a chance on a first round qb this year.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:14 PM) Without Luck, the Colts are trash
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:15 PM) SUCK FOR THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:15 PM) !!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:15 PM) They were trash without manning too.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:16 PM) f*** THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:16 PM) GASP!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:16 PM) How dare u say that
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'm excited to start researching potential draft prospects for us, I have no idea really who the top guys are this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) Look at all the first round top qb draft pick busts over the years. Even most of the analysts arent sure about any of the qbs this year
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I can not believe u could post such a thing about THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'll be more excited if Idzik was fired. I'm interested to see who our next HC is too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:19 PM) Bill cowher and THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT in the Giants rams game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT FIGHT TIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) !!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Leaf , Russell, Harrington,Young, Carr....... All picked with the first 3 picks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:22 PM) Its all hit of miss
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:24 PM) Yeah and thats what Im saying. So you changed your tune now?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) No one believes any of the qbs coming out this year is NFL ready
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) Talk about all the recent QBs that were taken and have done well
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) not true, some believe in the QBs this year. Some don't.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) NO
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) SUCK FOR THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:27 PM) I've seen tweets from NFL people that think Winston's skills are NFL ready. Has maturity issues though
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Boomer Torches Rex, Sanchez Sanchez is a chihuahua entering the Midtown Tunnel

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:42 PM

Boomer torches Rex, Sanchez http://espn.go.com/b...hes-rex-sanchez

Say this for Boomer Esiason: He's not shy about expressing his opinion. On Wednesday morning, the former Jets quarterback was a guest on a Boston radio station and torched his old team, ripping Rex Ryan, GM Mike Tannenbaum and QB Mark Sanchez.

Actually, "ripped" might be an understatement. He napalmed the Jets, especially Sanchez, whom he referred to as a "chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what."

This is what Esiason, a studio analyst for CBS, had to say about the Jets' collapse, according to quotes that appear on WEEI's web site:

"I think that Rex Ryan's ways have come back to haunt him. And Mike Tannenbaum, the general manager down here, has a lot of responsibility in this regard, because they have put a lot of bad guys together in this locker room. There's a good core of players for the New York Jets. But unfortunately, all it takes is one guy. And Rex Ryan giving Santonio Holmes the captain's 'C' on the chest was an absolute embarrassment. It's a slap in the face of all the good guys in that locker room.

"They have a major problem with [Holmes], because they're going to owe him $15 million guaranteed over the next two years if, in fact, they keep him on the roster next year. They can't cut him, I don't think. And I don't think anybody's going to want to trade for him. So, they've got themselves a handful."

Esiason turned his attention to Sanchez, with this:

"And then this morning in the paper, Jets fans don't want Mark Sanchez back. But this is the world of the Jets. It stays together for a little bit, and then all of a sudden it spirals out of control. And then they have a head coach that kind of exacerbates all of it."

Asked about the possibility of Peyton Manning going to the Jets, Esiason said: "Everywhere you look, that's what they're saying. But first of all, we don't even know if Peyton's able to play. If Peyton is able to play and the new general manager and whoever they hire to run that team out there decides to go without Peyton Manning, then I'm sure that the Jets will be sniffing around. Because that's what the Jets do.

"They're trying to find their Tom Brady. They're trying to find their Aaron Rodgers. And I don't think, in their mind, they think that they feel like they've found the kid. If you watched Mark Sanchez the last month of the season, he was like a chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what, and just so shaky."
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:03 PM

View PostChaos, on 04 January 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:

"They're trying to find their Tom Brady. They're trying to find their Aaron Rodgers. And I don't think, in their mind, they think that they feel like they've found the kid. If you watched Mark Sanchez the last month of the season, he was like a chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what, and just so shaky."



While I agree with most of what Boomer said there .. I have take exception to this last bit

How long did Brady and Rodgers get to watch from the sidelines before being thrown into the starting role? I realize its year 3 for this guy and he absolutely should be better than he is. But he is still very young and could likely be a great QB in this league .. I was pissed on SUnday but over all Im totally fine with #6 behind center for at least one more year .. but this time with a real O.C.!!
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:12 PM

Sanchez is far from an elite qb at this point. He has always been kind of nervous in the pocket. Even when we were winning. He is still growing into this role. He is 24 not 27 or 30. I know that sounds like only a few years but it is a world in maturity. Looking on the bright side he did have some of his best numbers with the least amount of talent around him. I do believe that says something. Give him some tools to work with and get him to calm downout there and we will be fine.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:41 PM

Anyone remember what the first play of the season was? Sanchez getting drilled by Ware. He was sacked 39 times... but how many times was he hit? He developed David Carr syndrome. Whether it was just for this year or forever remains to be seen but you can't fault anyone, especially a young guy in a bad offense to get beat down all year and then lose all composure in December. I'm waiting for the Jets to announce that Sanchez is having some sort of surgical procedure because the way he got hit this year, I'm surprised he even played every game.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:08 PM

What does the Taco bell dog have to do with this?
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:17 PM

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What does the Taco bell dog have to do with this?


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Posted 04 January 2012 - 06:38 PM

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:50 PM

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While I agree with most of what Boomer said there .. I have take exception to this last bit

How long did Brady and Rodgers get to watch from the sidelines before being thrown into the starting role? I realize its year 3 for this guy and he absolutely should be better than he is. But he is still very young and could likely be a great QB in this league .. I was pissed on SUnday but over all Im totally fine with #6 behind center for at least one more year .. but this time with a real O.C.!!


Brady didn't sit that long. But that's not the point. Sanchez simply is not an accurate passer. His decision making is highly suspect but maybe that could be improved over time. But accuracy at this stage is not going to improve. On top of that he misses more often behind the receiver than in front. Crossing patterns or passes over the middle are ripe for INT's if they are thrown behind the receiver.

They are so tough to find but the search for an elite QB is a must. Think about it. 4 elite QB's in the league - Brees, P. Manning, Brady and Rodgers and all of them have Super Bowl rings. You can win without one but the chances of winning with one are great. Sanchez isn't the answer unfortunately because he seems to be a great kid and a real professional. But to win with him we will need an overpowering defense and a superior running game.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

Its hard to show poise and accuracy when your constantly worried about getting the ball out before getting cracked, he's shown that when he's able to roll out and get the ball away clean he's accurate. Do I think he'll ever be poised like Peyton, no. But not every great QB has to just drop back and throw from the pocket. We need an OC that will play to his strengths.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:33 AM

View Postchocomag, on 04 January 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Brady didn't sit that long. But that's not the point. Sanchez simply is not an accurate passer. His decision making is highly suspect but maybe that could be improved over time. But accuracy at this stage is not going to improve. On top of that he misses more often behind the receiver than in front. Crossing patterns or passes over the middle are ripe for INT's if they are thrown behind the receiver.

They are so tough to find but the search for an elite QB is a must. Think about it. 4 elite QB's in the league - Brees, P. Manning, Brady and Rodgers and all of them have Super Bowl rings. You can win without one but the chances of winning with one are great. Sanchez isn't the answer unfortunately because he seems to be a great kid and a real professional. But to win with him we will need an overpowering defense and a superior running game.


To win with him now yes but who knows if we give him time ( I cringe as I write that)
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:41 AM

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Everybody, it seems, is ripping the New York Jets -- even their former players.

Ex-quarterback Boomer Esiason, appearing Wednesday morning on a Boston radio station, criticized coach Rex Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum for putting "a lot of bad guys together in (the) locker room." But he saved his harshest remarks for quarterback Mark Sanchez.

"If you watched Mark Sanchez the last month of the season, he was like a chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what, and just so shaky," said Esiason, according to quotes that appear on WEEI's web site.

Esiason, reached by ESPNNewYork.com, said the chihuahua line wasn't a reference to Sanchez's Mexican-American heritage. Esiason explained: "I chose a small dog that always looks shaken and has big eyes, and doesn't like big things -- a chihuahua. It's a skittish dog and he's been a skittish player."

Esiason believes the Jets' hierarchy isn't convinced that Sanchez is a franchise quarterback, and he wouldn't be surprised if they explore the possibility of acquiring the Colts' Peyton Manning if the Super Bowl winner and league MVP becomes available.

"If Peyton is able to play and the new general manager (in Indianapolis) and whoever they hire to run that team out there decides to go without Peyton Manning, then I'm sure that the Jets will be sniffing around," said Esiason, a CBS studio analyst who lives in the New York area. "Because that's what the Jets do. They're trying to find their Tom Brady. They're trying to find their Aaron Rodgers. And I don't think, in their mind, they think that they feel like they've found the kid."

Sanchez committed a career-high 26 turnovers, including nine in the final three games -- all Jets losses. The Jets finished 8-8, bitterly disappointing for a team that had Super Bowl aspirations.

Esiason blamed Ryan and Tannenbaum for the locker-room strife, a season-long issue that erupted with the Santonio Holmes fiasco in a season-ending loss in Miami. Holmes jawed with teammates in the huddle and was benched late in the game.

"I think that Rex Ryan's ways have come back to haunt him," Esiason said. "And Mike Tannenbaum ... has a lot of responsibility in this regard, because they have put a lot of bad guys together in this locker room. There's a good core of players for the New York Jets. But unfortunately, all it takes is one guy. And Rex Ryan giving Santonio Holmes the captain's 'C' on the chest was an absolute embarrassment. It's a slap in the face of all the good guys in that locker room."

Esiason said the Jets have a "major problem" with Holmes because of the guaranteed money he's owed -- $7.75 million, which becomes $15.25 million if he's on the roster after Feb. 8.

"They can't cut him, I don't think. And I don't think anybody's going to want to trade for him," Esiason said. "So, they've got themselves a handful."

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