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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:13 PM

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@RichCimini #Jets rookie QB Greg McElroy tells Ala. radio station this is "first time I’ve ever been around extremely selfish individuals." cont...

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@RichCimini McElroy, cont... there was "corrupt mindset" in locker room, players cared more about stats than Ws and Ls. "Not a fun place to be." #Jets

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:17 PM

Rookie QB Greg McElroy says there was a 'corrupt mindset' in Jets locker room with 'extremely selfish individuals' this season BY MANISH MEHTA

http://www.nydailyne...oom-with-extrem

Two days after Rex Ryan admitted that he didn’t have his finger on the pulse of the Jets this season, rookie quarterback Greg McElroy revealed a toxic attitude that permeated the lockerroom.

“It’s definitely not a fun place to be,” McElroy told an Alabama radio station on Wednesday. “I can assure you.”

McElroy, who was placed on Injured Reserve due to a thumb injury, reiterated the vibe that several players talked about on Monday.

“It’s the first time I’ve ever been around extremely selfish individuals,” said McElroy, who was a seventh round pick out of Alabama. “I think that’s maybe the nature of the NFL. But there were people within our lockerroom that didn’t care whether we won or loss… as long as they got their… they really had a good game individually. And that’s the disappointing thing."

"It’s going to take a lot to kind of come together next year," he added. "I think the fact that we struggled at times this year really led to a really corrupt mindset within the lockerroom. But I think we’re going to regroup and I know that we’ll be a better team because of the trials and tribulations this year.”

On Monday, one player told the Daily News that “this place is a zoo.”

Bickering between Santonio Holmes and several teammates in Sunday’s season-ending loss to the Dolphins took center stage as the Jets missed the playoffs for the first time since Rex Ryan took over in 2009.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:18 PM

Rex is losing this team. There is a 3rd string QB who spent the year on IR ripping the team right now. WTF Rex? Fix this. NOW.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:21 PM

Hes speaking the truth, all Rex needs to do is get rid of these cancers and get back to being about the team.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:21 PM

rex will get this team back for sure. we have to bring in some good locker room guys. i'd love to have BE back he loved being a jet
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:29 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 04 January 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

rex will get this team back for sure. we have to bring in some good locker room guys. i'd love to have BE back he loved being a jet


much easier said than done. I mean we don't have a single team leader right now, and there doesn't seem to be any players with good character that will be FA's.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:37 PM

Man everything is getting out to the media from inside the locker room. That is not good.

McElroy isn't ripping the team he's making an observation that someone overheard.

This really isn't good guys.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:19 PM

Things must have been bad if our third string QB - a player you'd expect to tow the line as their job is never secure - is speaking out against his teammates.

As long as Rex and co get things under control, it could be a positive thing that a number of guys are speaking out about the locker room issues. Nobody likes getting criticised by their peers, so those who such remarks are about will hopefully get into line.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:39 PM

I hope players wanting to play for the JETS and REX isn't a thing of the past. Some FA's might not want to deal with this train wreck.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:41 PM

I was going to say something like " Our third string QB has better leadership skills than our starter" But then I realized that is not true. If he was talking on a radio station like that..... Can't be good. I am suprised they kept all the BS quite so long.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:15 PM

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Backup quarterback Greg McElroy told an Alabama radio station Wednesday that trying to fit wide receiver Derrick Mason into the offense set it back, then hurt it even further after Mason was traded.

“Early in the season, we had signed Derrick Mason and we had him for about the first five weeks, give or take,” McElroy told 97.3 The Zone. “And we tried to go to like an 11-set, a three wide receiver set, one tight end, one running back, and that’s just not the strength of what (Brian) Schottenheimer can call.

“After we kind of cut ties with that experiment, for (Weeks) 2-3, and we were just kind of battling every week from there on out, and I think we never really got in much of a groove. We just never really had much of an offensive identity.”

After a Week 4 loss to the Ravens, Mason was publicly critical of the offense. Despite Rex Ryan’s prediction that Mason would catch 90 passes, he barely played in the following game against the Patriots was traded to the Texans two days later.

McElroy said Schottenheimer did his best to adapt, but the offense finished ranked 27th in the NFL.

“He’s an absolutely tireless worker, he works incredibly hard, but I think next year I think he realizes also we just need to do more from an offensive perspective and kind of develop that mindset and develop what kind of offense we want to be,” McElroy said of Schottenheimer, whom Rex Ryan said he expects back.

“You can’t just change philosophies midway through the season. I think that hurt us

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:12 PM

Relax guys. These things happen on winning teams too, it's just masked because the team is winning. I really doubt Santonio suddenly became a prima donna WR this year. All this shit starts to come to light on teams that start losing. If the team were 12-4 with a bye week this week, we wouldn't be hearing about any of this.

Winning cures everything in sports.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:38 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 04 January 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Relax guys. These things happen on winning teams too, it's just masked because the team is winning. I really doubt Santonio suddenly became a prima donna WR this year. All this shit starts to come to light on teams that start losing. If the team were 12-4 with a bye week this week, we wouldn't be hearing about any of this.

Winning cures everything in sports.

I agree winning solves all problems and we are hearing this stuff because of our disappointing season. I also believe that McElroy may be a better QB than Sanchez given the playing time to prove it - which he wont. This kid led Alabama to a National Championship and looked very good in the pre-season. I would love to see the Jets give him a chance.

It is possible for Sanchez to right his ship but I don't think so. He has happy feet and he continually throws behind his receivers - a recipe for interceptions.

I also think Shotty has to go. Look at it this way. Either Shotty calls the most conservative game plan ever because he doesn't believe Sanchez has the skills to execute a better one or he has no imagination. Either one sucks for us. But since they aren't going to get rid of Sanchez, then we are better off mentally with new blood and a new game plan.

But I really believe McElroy should back him up and if he ever got the chance, become a more effective starter.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:49 PM

What is with everyone airing dirty laundry?
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:48 PM

Hopefully another TC away from everything will help bring this team back together. Rex needs to step up, be a leader and tell everyone to STFU and do their jobs.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 12:06 AM

View PostClemens11, on 04 January 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

What is with everyone airing dirty laundry?


This is exactly what I'm saying.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:56 AM

View PostClemens11, on 04 January 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

What is with everyone airing dirty laundry?



Come on now. EVERYONE isn't talking. David Harris, Kyle Wilson and Nick Mangold haven't been talking just to name a few.

It's only been a few days since the end of the season. If all this talking and junior high drama bullshit is still going on in March THEN I'll be worried. After the Super Bowl it'll be a new season for everybody. It'll be back to work.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:00 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 January 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Come on now. EVERYONE isn't talking. David Harris, Kyle Wilson and Nick Mangold haven't been talking just to name a few.


Was that supposed to be sarcasm? because too many people are talking. Maybe not the whole 53 man roster but enough to warrant some serious attention.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:19 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 January 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Come on now. EVERYONE isn't talking. David Harris, Kyle Wilson and Nick Mangold haven't been talking just to name a few.


That doesn't bother you? End of the season and the locker room is going crazy and Harris nor Mangold have yet to say something. They are the veteran leaders and Jets by draft. They should step in and stop this. It is their job.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:23 PM

View PostCanuck Jet, on 04 January 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

I hope players wanting to play for the JETS and REX isn't a thing of the past. Some FA's might not want to deal with this train wreck.


That was overrated anyway. Who have we signed since Rex came to town? Scott, Leonhard, Maybin, Plaxico, Pool. We traded for most of the better players we didn't acquire through the draft. After three years I am tired of hearing this fake media hype about how players are going to flock to the Jets to play for Ryan. Basically we signed two notable players, the rest were guys that had big time issues (bust-label, prison, injury-related history).

View PostClemens11, on 04 January 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

What is with everyone airing dirty laundry?


Ryan laid it out when Holmes first went out in the media. To him, it was acceptable. You let the kids bring home one puppy they will bring home a new one every month.
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