NYJetsFan.com Forums: Us Lawmakers Are Nine Times Richer Than The Average American - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

@DWAZ73 : One other thing: Idzik now has landed arguably No. 1 QB, RB and WR in free agency this offseason despite deliberate approach. #Jets
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 02:40 PM) Snell
santana Icon : (Today, 02:41 PM) The title race is real
Chaos Icon : (Today, 02:42 PM) Jordan...what number was he? it was 30sometihng
Chaos Icon : (Today, 02:43 PM) tanaka had a great game today. gave up 2 hits due to bunts. 10K
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 02:48 PM) Jordan was #34 with the Jets.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:03 PM) Tanaka is looking like a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:04 PM) Jets added Vick, Chris Johnson, and Eric Decker to the offense.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:04 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:04 PM) And this draft is loaded at the offensive skill positions
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:04 PM) Hopefully we can get anohter starting WR and starting TE in the draft
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:05 PM) Our offense could be much better than last year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:05 PM) can't get much worse than what it's been the last 2 years
santana Icon : (Today, 03:22 PM) Very cool
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 03:24 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:32 PM) still need another WR
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:33 PM) so i bet powell barely gets any touches this year and goodson gets cut
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) Goodson is as good as gone.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) With all his legal issues and coming off injury he is done. Possibly even in the NFL
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:39 PM) Powell is average anyways.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 03:39 PM) @ProFootballTalk 5m

Per source, Chris Johnson's two-year deal has a base value of $8 million, with another $1 million available in incentives based on yardage.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:40 PM) He does a lot of things well, but isn't talented enough. Johnson has breakaway ability still and Ivory is man beast running the football
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:41 PM) We will get another WR in the draft. Even in round 2 you can get a starting WR
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:09 PM) I am still standing by my CB in the first round and WR in the second prediction
santana Icon : (Today, 05:19 PM) The title race is bale
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 05:34 PM) Sidney rice coming in for a visit
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:49 PM) I think the Jets are getting themselves ready to draft best player available
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:49 PM) Last year they stuck to their board
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 06:27 PM) if they sign him I think that means they look to take a CB round 1
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 06:32 PM) “@AdamSchefter: RB Chris Johnson's 2-year deal with Jets has a team option in it for year two. Jets have option to pick up year two at $4M in February 2015.”
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:51 PM) @AlbertBreer 2m
Sidney Rice has agreed to terms with the Seahawks on a one-year deal, per source.
Expand
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:55 PM) There is really only 2 CBs worth taking at 18
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:56 PM) I rather get a offensive playmaker
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 06:58 PM) LaMont Jordan was 34
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:59 PM) liar
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 07:05 PM) He wore #34 when he played for the JETS
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 07:05 PM) I should know I met him at an event in his last year with the JETS before he went to Oakland
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 07:05 PM) GFYS 0099 you shit talker
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 07:06 PM) http://www.nydailyne...entry-1.1758342
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 07:06 PM) there's no reason we can't have someone off this site on that list too
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 07:08 PM) Rice resigned with Seattle
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:08 PM) did you scare him into going to Oakland?
Chaos Icon : (Today, 08:18 PM) unfortunately those sites are too much bigger than our
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 10:51 PM) WOOOO
santana Icon : (Today, 11:01 PM) I'm sure it's possible but this isn't a blog site as much as its a login and yell about the jets site
santana Icon : (Today, 11:01 PM) WOO
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Us Lawmakers Are Nine Times Richer Than The Average American

#1 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,141
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:49 PM

Quote

WASHINGTON: The wealth gap between members of Congress and ordinary Americans is growing larger, with nearly half of all lawmakers now worth more than one million dollars, according to US media reports today.

US lawmakers are increasingly likely to be multimillionaires and are on average nine times richer than the other Americans, according to data made available to the New York Times and Washington Post.

The papers reported figures from the Center for Responsive Politics that showed the median net worth of a member of Congress stood at USD 913,000 and is climbing, compared to USD 100,000 and falling for the rest of the population.

Amid protests against the country's wealthy elite that have seen many US cities "occupied" by demonstrators, it appears elected many elected representatives make up the "one percent."

Among the richest is Republican representative from California, Darrell Issa.

According to separate figures from the Center for Responsive Politics' released in November, Issa was worth USD 195 to USD 700 million last year, his fortune coming from his car alarms business.

Texas Republican Representative Michael McCaul and Democratic Senators John Kerry, Mark Warner and Herb Kohl were also among the most wealthy.

According to the Washington Post, members of the House of Representatives were worth an average of USD 725,000 in 2009 compared to USD 280,000 in 1984, adjusted for inflation. Those figures do not include home equity.

Their wealth stands in stark contrast to the economic fate of most Americans, who have seen their value shrink over the last two decades.

Over the same period American families saw their average wealth drop from USD 20,600 to USD 20,500, also inflation-adjusted and not including home equity.

The reasons for the gap are far from clear, although many point to the cost of running for office being a deterrent to the poor, and also lawmakers being able to profit from market-moving knowledge.

"I am sure that there are multiple reasons for it," Alan Ziobrowski -- a professor at Georgia State University -- told AFP.

Ziobrowski, who has studied how lawmakers' stock investments have faired, said "the situation is pretty straight forward" with regard market-generated wealth.

"You have got a Congress which is preoccupied with three things, with regulation of industries; they are preoccupied with taxes and they are preoccupied with the federal budget. Any one of those things can have an absolutely profound impact on stock price."

Posted Image
New York Jets
Super Bowl III Champions

Posted Image
Los Angeles Lakers
16-times NBA World Champions

1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
0

#2 User is offline   azjetfan Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,760
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cheese Land Baby
  • Interests:Football, golf, banking and home improvements

  • NFL Team:

Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:30 PM

All the more reason for less government.
Posted Image
0

#3 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,141
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:30 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 January 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

All the more reason for less government.


Yeah that'll solve the problem alright. This is nothing compared to what former congressmen and senators make once they leave Capitol Hill and move over to K street. That's where the real money is made and they're not in the government.

Plus you have to factor in many members of congress are already rich before they are elected (like Congressman Issa and Senators Kohl and Warner) or marry into money (like Senators Kerry and McCain). Today you have to either be rich already or be willing to whore yourself out to rich people to get elected.
Posted Image
New York Jets
Super Bowl III Champions

Posted Image
Los Angeles Lakers
16-times NBA World Champions

1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
0

#4 User is offline   azjetfan Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,760
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cheese Land Baby
  • Interests:Football, golf, banking and home improvements

  • NFL Team:

Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:32 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 07 January 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Yeah that'll solve the problem alright.


Sure will
Posted Image
0

#5 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,141
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:51 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 January 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Sure will



LOL, No it won't. They're either rich before they're elected or they're put there by the rich folks that bought them and put them in congress to do their bidding. The size government has nothing to do with it.
Posted Image
New York Jets
Super Bowl III Champions

Posted Image
Los Angeles Lakers
16-times NBA World Champions

1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
0

#6 User is offline   MoMilk1991 Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,946
  • Joined: 10-March 07
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:15 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 January 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

All the more reason for less government.


Care to elaborate? This article just seems to validate the rich serving the rich.
Posted Image
0

#7 User is offline   azjetfan Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,760
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cheese Land Baby
  • Interests:Football, golf, banking and home improvements

  • NFL Team:

Posted 08 January 2012 - 03:02 PM

View PostMoMilk1991, on 08 January 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

Care to elaborate? This article just seems to validate the rich serving the rich.


Politics are dirty. Always have been always will be. No matter what side of the fence you are on.

Smaller government is easier to keep track of by the people. How many of your state reps do you know how they voted? Do you use their track record to vote for them again? How do you hold them accountable for their actions? Too many people to shift blame to.

You have 300 people with the same authority sitting in a room trying to accomplish the same thing. All making over $100k. All with there own interests. How long does it take 300 people to agree to terms? and is the best option for the people selected? I don't think so. Knock it down to 50 and save the $25 million. Put those funds into lowering taxes. I am tired of giving 1/2 my salary to some form of government.
Posted Image
0

#8 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,141
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 08 January 2012 - 07:53 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 08 January 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Politics are dirty. Always have been always will be. No matter what side of the fence you are on.

Smaller government is easier to keep track of by the people. How many of your state reps do you know how they voted? Do you use their track record to vote for them again? How do you hold them accountable for their actions? Too many people to shift blame to.

You have 300 people with the same authority sitting in a room trying to accomplish the same thing. All making over $100k. All with there own interests. How long does it take 300 people to agree to terms? and is the best option for the people selected? I don't think so. Knock it down to 50 and save the $25 million. Put those funds into lowering taxes. I am tired of giving 1/2 my salary to some form of government.



So basically you're saying is you want an aristocracy form of government. A select few (in this case 50 people) at the top representing over 300 million people. See these 50 whatever you want (senators or representatives I don't know which house you're talking about) would likely come from heavily populated and more urban areas, meaning you've just created a permanent majority for the Democratic party since those areas of the country vote heavily Democratic.

Anyway this 50 member body of congress would still be able to personally profit from market-moving knowledge like the article mentions. They would still be able to get rich off of their abilities to effect regulations, taxes, and the federal budget. I'm almost certain Americans would not want to switch from a republic (officially atleast) to an aristocracy form of government.
Posted Image
New York Jets
Super Bowl III Champions

Posted Image
Los Angeles Lakers
16-times NBA World Champions

1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
0

#9 User is offline   azjetfan Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,760
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cheese Land Baby
  • Interests:Football, golf, banking and home improvements

  • NFL Team:

Posted 08 January 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 08 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

So basically you're saying is you want an aristocracy form of government. A select few (in this case 50 people) at the top representing over 300 million people.
(aristocracy) a form of government in which a few elite citizens rule. Not quite. The majority of all decisions will be made by local government that understands the needs of tht community. 300 people sitting in a room in DC have no or little idea what is going on in small or midsize county, Nor do they really want to.

Mr_Jet, on 08 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

There is no doubt there is a problem. Unfortunatly it will never be fixed when the government is so large and people are not going to put the time into research who to vote for. They typicly vote for whomever is in the party they feel a part of without any knowledge of what the person is about. The federal government should be small and handle national proble

There is no doubt there is a problem. Unfortunatly it will never be fixed when the government is so large and people are not going to put the time into research who to vote for. They typicly vote for whomever is in the party they feel a part of without any knowledge of what the person is about. The federal government should be small and handle national problems only.
Posted Image
0

#10 User is offline   HarlemHxC814 Icon

  • 06 Best Avatar Award / N.O.P. GUARD
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 4,993
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:08 PM

As the son of a politician I just want to chime in. I'm not this entitled person with gobs of money and truth be told we have to make ends meet just like everyone else. Im paying loans from college and will be doing so until 2031. This isn't a direct response to anything specific but in the past ive seen things on these boards about politicians don't care blah blah theyre all rich and can't relate. Nothing can be further from the truth in some instances
Posted Image
0

#11 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,141
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:36 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 08 January 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

(aristocracy) a form of government in which a few elite citizens rule. Not quite. The majority of all decisions will be made by local government that understands the needs of tht community. 300 people sitting in a room in DC have no or little idea what is going on in small or midsize county, Nor do they really want to.


There is no doubt there is a problem. Unfortunatly it will never be fixed when the government is so large and people are not going to put the time into research who to vote for. They typicly vote for whomever is in the party they feel a part of without any knowledge of what the person is about. The federal government should be small and handle national problems only.


Your request for smaller government to the point of taking the number of members of congress from 535 down to 50 would require amending the U.S. constitution meaning the congress themselves would basically have to willingly eliminate 485 members of it's own body. So first of all that's not going to ever get enough votes so it'll never even make it to the state legislatures. Also it goes against the wishes of our founding fathers and destroys all the time and hard work it took them to form our "more perfect union." Remember this country is a union of states and if the majority of the founding fathers wanted to give states the powers you want to give them all in the name of "smaller government," they would have given those powers to the states 220 years ago.

Smaller government is not the cure for all the things you don't like. All that would end up happening is instead of having multi-million dollar U.S. senate and U.S. house campaigns, we'd have multi-million dollar state senate and state house campaigns. We'd have lobbyist currently lobbying Capitol Hill, lobbying state legislatures and city halls around the country instead. The money wouldn't go away, it would just move down to the local level. The money is just going to go wherever the power goes. You give the power to local government and the big money donors, PACs, and lobbyist will follow. These senators and congressmen aren't making more now than they used to because they all like big government. They know if they want to get re-elected they need to raise money (cater to the folks and companies with a lot of money) and in the process they can make a little more on the side for themselves for being puppets for Wall Street. Then they can become lobbyist themselves and make some real money once "they leave public life."

To put it simply, smaller government isn't going to change anything considering big money influence still drives our government no matter it's size. We need to overturn the Citizens United decision and have total public financing of congressional and presidential campaigns. That would at least be a start.
Posted Image
New York Jets
Super Bowl III Champions

Posted Image
Los Angeles Lakers
16-times NBA World Champions

1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
0

#12 User is offline   azjetfan Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,760
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cheese Land Baby
  • Interests:Football, golf, banking and home improvements

  • NFL Team:

Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:41 AM

Lets push this fun back till a little closer to November. I am just not engaged in this right now.
Posted Image
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users