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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:49 PM

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WASHINGTON: The wealth gap between members of Congress and ordinary Americans is growing larger, with nearly half of all lawmakers now worth more than one million dollars, according to US media reports today.

US lawmakers are increasingly likely to be multimillionaires and are on average nine times richer than the other Americans, according to data made available to the New York Times and Washington Post.

The papers reported figures from the Center for Responsive Politics that showed the median net worth of a member of Congress stood at USD 913,000 and is climbing, compared to USD 100,000 and falling for the rest of the population.

Amid protests against the country's wealthy elite that have seen many US cities "occupied" by demonstrators, it appears elected many elected representatives make up the "one percent."

Among the richest is Republican representative from California, Darrell Issa.

According to separate figures from the Center for Responsive Politics' released in November, Issa was worth USD 195 to USD 700 million last year, his fortune coming from his car alarms business.

Texas Republican Representative Michael McCaul and Democratic Senators John Kerry, Mark Warner and Herb Kohl were also among the most wealthy.

According to the Washington Post, members of the House of Representatives were worth an average of USD 725,000 in 2009 compared to USD 280,000 in 1984, adjusted for inflation. Those figures do not include home equity.

Their wealth stands in stark contrast to the economic fate of most Americans, who have seen their value shrink over the last two decades.

Over the same period American families saw their average wealth drop from USD 20,600 to USD 20,500, also inflation-adjusted and not including home equity.

The reasons for the gap are far from clear, although many point to the cost of running for office being a deterrent to the poor, and also lawmakers being able to profit from market-moving knowledge.

"I am sure that there are multiple reasons for it," Alan Ziobrowski -- a professor at Georgia State University -- told AFP.

Ziobrowski, who has studied how lawmakers' stock investments have faired, said "the situation is pretty straight forward" with regard market-generated wealth.

"You have got a Congress which is preoccupied with three things, with regulation of industries; they are preoccupied with taxes and they are preoccupied with the federal budget. Any one of those things can have an absolutely profound impact on stock price."

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:30 PM

All the more reason for less government.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:30 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 January 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

All the more reason for less government.


Yeah that'll solve the problem alright. This is nothing compared to what former congressmen and senators make once they leave Capitol Hill and move over to K street. That's where the real money is made and they're not in the government.

Plus you have to factor in many members of congress are already rich before they are elected (like Congressman Issa and Senators Kohl and Warner) or marry into money (like Senators Kerry and McCain). Today you have to either be rich already or be willing to whore yourself out to rich people to get elected.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:32 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 07 January 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Yeah that'll solve the problem alright.


Sure will
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:51 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 January 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Sure will



LOL, No it won't. They're either rich before they're elected or they're put there by the rich folks that bought them and put them in congress to do their bidding. The size government has nothing to do with it.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:15 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 January 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

All the more reason for less government.


Care to elaborate? This article just seems to validate the rich serving the rich.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 03:02 PM

View PostMoMilk1991, on 08 January 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

Care to elaborate? This article just seems to validate the rich serving the rich.


Politics are dirty. Always have been always will be. No matter what side of the fence you are on.

Smaller government is easier to keep track of by the people. How many of your state reps do you know how they voted? Do you use their track record to vote for them again? How do you hold them accountable for their actions? Too many people to shift blame to.

You have 300 people with the same authority sitting in a room trying to accomplish the same thing. All making over $100k. All with there own interests. How long does it take 300 people to agree to terms? and is the best option for the people selected? I don't think so. Knock it down to 50 and save the $25 million. Put those funds into lowering taxes. I am tired of giving 1/2 my salary to some form of government.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 07:53 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 08 January 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Politics are dirty. Always have been always will be. No matter what side of the fence you are on.

Smaller government is easier to keep track of by the people. How many of your state reps do you know how they voted? Do you use their track record to vote for them again? How do you hold them accountable for their actions? Too many people to shift blame to.

You have 300 people with the same authority sitting in a room trying to accomplish the same thing. All making over $100k. All with there own interests. How long does it take 300 people to agree to terms? and is the best option for the people selected? I don't think so. Knock it down to 50 and save the $25 million. Put those funds into lowering taxes. I am tired of giving 1/2 my salary to some form of government.



So basically you're saying is you want an aristocracy form of government. A select few (in this case 50 people) at the top representing over 300 million people. See these 50 whatever you want (senators or representatives I don't know which house you're talking about) would likely come from heavily populated and more urban areas, meaning you've just created a permanent majority for the Democratic party since those areas of the country vote heavily Democratic.

Anyway this 50 member body of congress would still be able to personally profit from market-moving knowledge like the article mentions. They would still be able to get rich off of their abilities to effect regulations, taxes, and the federal budget. I'm almost certain Americans would not want to switch from a republic (officially atleast) to an aristocracy form of government.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 08 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

So basically you're saying is you want an aristocracy form of government. A select few (in this case 50 people) at the top representing over 300 million people.
(aristocracy) a form of government in which a few elite citizens rule. Not quite. The majority of all decisions will be made by local government that understands the needs of tht community. 300 people sitting in a room in DC have no or little idea what is going on in small or midsize county, Nor do they really want to.

Mr_Jet, on 08 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

There is no doubt there is a problem. Unfortunatly it will never be fixed when the government is so large and people are not going to put the time into research who to vote for. They typicly vote for whomever is in the party they feel a part of without any knowledge of what the person is about. The federal government should be small and handle national proble

There is no doubt there is a problem. Unfortunatly it will never be fixed when the government is so large and people are not going to put the time into research who to vote for. They typicly vote for whomever is in the party they feel a part of without any knowledge of what the person is about. The federal government should be small and handle national problems only.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:08 PM

As the son of a politician I just want to chime in. I'm not this entitled person with gobs of money and truth be told we have to make ends meet just like everyone else. Im paying loans from college and will be doing so until 2031. This isn't a direct response to anything specific but in the past ive seen things on these boards about politicians don't care blah blah theyre all rich and can't relate. Nothing can be further from the truth in some instances
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:36 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 08 January 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

(aristocracy) a form of government in which a few elite citizens rule. Not quite. The majority of all decisions will be made by local government that understands the needs of tht community. 300 people sitting in a room in DC have no or little idea what is going on in small or midsize county, Nor do they really want to.


There is no doubt there is a problem. Unfortunatly it will never be fixed when the government is so large and people are not going to put the time into research who to vote for. They typicly vote for whomever is in the party they feel a part of without any knowledge of what the person is about. The federal government should be small and handle national problems only.


Your request for smaller government to the point of taking the number of members of congress from 535 down to 50 would require amending the U.S. constitution meaning the congress themselves would basically have to willingly eliminate 485 members of it's own body. So first of all that's not going to ever get enough votes so it'll never even make it to the state legislatures. Also it goes against the wishes of our founding fathers and destroys all the time and hard work it took them to form our "more perfect union." Remember this country is a union of states and if the majority of the founding fathers wanted to give states the powers you want to give them all in the name of "smaller government," they would have given those powers to the states 220 years ago.

Smaller government is not the cure for all the things you don't like. All that would end up happening is instead of having multi-million dollar U.S. senate and U.S. house campaigns, we'd have multi-million dollar state senate and state house campaigns. We'd have lobbyist currently lobbying Capitol Hill, lobbying state legislatures and city halls around the country instead. The money wouldn't go away, it would just move down to the local level. The money is just going to go wherever the power goes. You give the power to local government and the big money donors, PACs, and lobbyist will follow. These senators and congressmen aren't making more now than they used to because they all like big government. They know if they want to get re-elected they need to raise money (cater to the folks and companies with a lot of money) and in the process they can make a little more on the side for themselves for being puppets for Wall Street. Then they can become lobbyist themselves and make some real money once "they leave public life."

To put it simply, smaller government isn't going to change anything considering big money influence still drives our government no matter it's size. We need to overturn the Citizens United decision and have total public financing of congressional and presidential campaigns. That would at least be a start.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:41 AM

Lets push this fun back till a little closer to November. I am just not engaged in this right now.
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