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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:14 AM

Sparano?

Really?

The same guy that played almost exclusively for FGs?

The same guy that's never been an OC?

The same guy who's expertise is the Offensive Line, yet, having spent $200M on the OL under him, the Dolphins will still need to spend a high pick on an OL?

This is the guy that's going to "open up" our offense?

Really?
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:19 AM

I am not thrilled about Sparano either, unless we bring in Todd Haley as well.

I can't get over that this guy fist pumps for FGs.


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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:21 AM

Im not thrilled either. I like a good run game but...

It might work. Jets have a better defense then the Dolphins the Sparano is good at running the football. If Todd Haley joins that would be ideal. I like the notion of these 2 together.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:23 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 11 January 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

I am not thrilled about Sparano either, unless we bring in Todd Haley as well.


I'm just not sure what to think of this hire. When you think "offense", Sparano is like the 40th name I'd come up with. The dude's biggest accomplishment was the WildCat... which was solved by every team the second year. What does he bring to the table? I feel like we're making the same mistake we did with Burress, going after a household name and hoping he works out.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:25 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 11 January 2012 - 12:23 AM, said:

I'm just not sure what to think of this hire. When you think "offense", Sparano is like the 40th name I'd come up with. The dude's biggest accomplishment was the WildCat... which was solved by every team the second year. What does he bring to the table? I feel like we're making the same mistake we did with Burress, going after a household name and hoping he works out.

And it wasn't even Sparano who came up with the wild cat, I don't know the name but some coach from Arkansas brought it there. Sparano wasn't the OC with the Dolphins, when he called the plays in Dallas they were 5th in yards and 4th in points. But Todd Haley was with him and did the passing game.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:27 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 11 January 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Im not thrilled either. I like a good run game but...

It might work. Jets have a better defense then the Dolphins the Sparano is good at running the football. If Todd Haley joins that would be ideal. I like the notion of these 2 together.


Our defense shouldn't play a factor in this signing. I mean, the Dolphins offense absolutely sucked under Sparano. We were suppose to find someone to push Sanchez back onto the right path... instead we bring in a guy who brought back a high school offense that minimizes the QB? What are we saying here? I just feel like this is more of the same but opposite. Instead of throwing the ball 67 times a game into a dime defense, we'll be running 67 times a game into a 46.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:28 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 11 January 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

And it wasn't even Sparano who came up with the wild cat, I don't know the name but some coach from Arkansas brought it there. Sparano wasn't the OC with the Dolphins, when he called the plays in Dallas they were 5th in yards and 4th in points. But Todd Haley was with him and did the passing game.


Is Haley coming here? I don't think so. I haven't seen a single report that indicates taht the rumors are true.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:30 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 11 January 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

Is Haley coming here? I don't think so. I haven't seen a single report that indicates taht the rumors are true.


I have read that the Jets have expressed interest in Haley and a report that Haley and Sparano discussed pairing up together. I have not seen that Haley is coming yet, but I am hoping he does.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:32 AM

The right move would've been to bring in some up and coming QB coach if we couldn't land a top OC. Carolina's QB coach took Newton and made him a superstar. Someone like that with fresh ideas and ambition. You know what Sparano is going to bring. 3 yards, a cloud of dust and he'll bolt for the college ranks as soon as some ACC school has an openning.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:35 AM

The guy was coaching for his job during that FG. How the f*** can you blame him for being happy?

I wanted Ramsdell but I'm completely fine with this move and it adds instant cred to the job. He'll run a consistent offense, put our players in positions to succeed and can hire his own staff.

I think it's a damn good hire, plus who knows the division better?
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:37 AM

I just looked at the Miami message boards and they're all very happy that we hired Sparano. That's a bad sign. He's their Schotty. I think we just traded in our 85 Buick LeSabre for a 88 Carolla.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:38 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 11 January 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

I just looked at the Miami message boards and they're all very happy that we hired Sparano. That's a bad sign. He's their Schotty. I think we just traded in our 85 Buick LeSabre for a 88 Carolla.


Yeah because we all know how intellectual the Miami fan base is.

Right on. f*** Sparano.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:42 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 11 January 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

Yeah because we all know how intellectual the Miami fan base is.

Right on. f*** Sparano.


Intellectual or not, when did we ever fear Miami's offense during his tenure? I mean, he's the OL expert right? THEIR OL SUCKS! If he can't fix the one thing he's built his career on, how are we suppose to feel with him turning Sanchez around?
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:44 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 11 January 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

I just looked at the Miami message boards and they're all very happy that we hired Sparano. That's a bad sign. He's their Schotty. I think we just traded in our 85 Buick LeSabre for a 88 Carolla.

Sparano didn't call the plays in Miami. Sometimes coaches aren't good HCs but are good coordinators, though Sparano doesn't have a big history as a OC which worries me.

But most of the Dolphins on finheaven are huge homers and hate the Jets more than anything.

Here is what one said about the hiring.

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Trust me, Sparano running the Jets offense is not a good thing for us.

He coached our entire defense for 3 years, and his attention to detail is going to be extremely beneficial for them on the offensive side of the ball. He is a complete buffoon when it comes to running an entire team and things such as clock management, game situations, etc, but he will most likely thrive than fail for them.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:45 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 11 January 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

Intellectual or not, when did we ever fear Miami's offense during his tenure? I mean, he's the OL expert right? THEIR OL SUCKS! If he can't fix the one thing he's built his career on, how are we suppose to feel with him turning Sanchez around?


He's going to bring his own staff, one that'll help with Sanchez.

Sparano will do all the little things at this point we need. I think we'll be pleasantly surprised and if we're judging Miami, what they did with Matt Moore the second half of season was nothing short of amazing.

I get what you're saying but lets not take Fins words for it.

It wasn't a flashy hire but I think one we needed.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:22 AM

Ahhh man I just really don't know about this hire


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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:23 AM

This was never going to be a hire that everyone was going to go crazy about.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:27 AM

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Beginning his NFL career in 1999, Sparano was fired in three staffing purges after brief stints with the Cleveland Browns, Washington Redskins and Jacksonville Jaguars. While with the Redskins, Sparano was partly responsible for launching the career of Ross Tucker. Sparano was hired by new Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells in 2003, rising from tight ends coach to assistant head coach in his five seasons in Dallas. Sparano was the offensive play-caller for Dallas in 2006, but ceded the responsibilities to new offensive coordinator Jason Garrett the following season.

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After firing Cam Cameron following a franchise-worst 115 season, the Miami Dolphins and new executive vice president of football operations Parcells hired Sparano to a four-year contract on January 16, 2008.

In his first season, Sparano led the Dolphins to an 115 record and the AFC East division title, securing the franchise's first playoff berth in seven seasons before losing to the Baltimore Ravens in a wild-card game. The 10-win turnaround tied an NFL record and Sparano finished one vote behind Atlanta Falcons first-year head coach Mike Smith in balloting for the AP Coach of the Year award.

In 2009 and 2010 each, Sparano led the Dolphins to a 7-9 record and third place in the AFC East. Sparano's Dolphins went 1-7 at home in 2010. The Dolphins were the subject of much gossip at the end of the 2010 season when team owner Stephen Ross flew across the country with General Manager Jeff Ireland to interview then Stanford University coach Jim Harbaugh. At the time of the interview with Harbaugh, Sparano was still the team's head coach. It was also reported by numerous media sources that Ross also spoke with former NFL coaches Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher about the not yet open position. According to reports Bill Cowher told Ross he would not talk to him while he had a head coach in place.

On January 8, 2011, the Dolphins gave Sparano a two-year extension with Ross saying he was the perfect man for the job.

On December 12, 2011, Sparano was fired from the Miami Dolphins as head coach, and will be replaced by Todd Bowles.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:45 AM

The guy doesn't have a very good track record. He didn't handle Henne all that well. Apparently he needed a pass influenced coach when he was calling signals for Dallas. People can say what ever they want about Dan Henning calling the plays I always have seen a long laminated play-call sheet in his hands on Sunday.

Well the end result is this hire was made under Rex Ryan so if this all goes down in burning flames then so does Rex Ryan and it's on to the next. (can't believe I said that) but I just really don't like the hiring.

Thinking optimistically he will command the respect and lay down the rules with his players. Miami never quit on Sparano even though they losing, He's worked exclusively with the Oline and running game so that should be pretty big improvement, Holmes won't be able to act like b*tch under Sparano, he's seen and played against Sanchez so he might be able to help him there. Strengthen weaknesses. Other then that I'm tapped out optimistically.

Pessimistically he might ruin Sanchez more then Schotty already has, He doesn't have experience with quarterbacks, how much is he really drawing up plays?, his history isn't warm and fuzzy.

Oh man.. usually I think optimistically but something just doesn't sit right with me.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:52 AM

That is why I want Todd Haley brought in as well. Also Chad Henne blows, he never showed any improvement and always was a underachiever. Sanchez shows way more ability than him, he shows winning ability.
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