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Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:48 AM



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Jets need overhaul after internal combustion
By MARK CANNIZZARO

Last Updated: 9:26 AM, January 14, 2012

Posted: 12:47 AM, January 14, 2012

The “to-do’’ list Rex Ryan faces after his Jets melted down on the field, then further embarrassed themselves by purporting themselves in an even more unseemly way off of it, is a long one.

There are a lot of things that went bad on Ryan’s watch in 2011 that need fixing in 2012 — beginning with his own credibility.

Listening to Ryan on a conference call yesterday reinforced bold-talk bravado suits him a lot better than run-for-cover spin doctoring.

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Listening to Ryan, without a trace of his usual bull-in-a-China-shop personality evident, gingerly sticking and moving his way through some pressing questions, was like seeing him driving around town in a Smart Car.

It didn’t fit.

Spin doctoring is for losers. If Ryan is going to be “true to himself’’ — as he often likes to say — he needs to be more truthful with those who listen to him.

Ryan has developed a recent habit of painting himself into some places from which he cannot gracefully extricate himself.

He repeated in recent weeks offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer would stay as long as he was not hired away as a head coach.

Schottenheimer, the scapegoat, is gone and not only is he not a head coach anywhere, he isn’t even employed.

If you have listened to Ryan during the last three years, you have heard him thump his chest about how he “has the best coaching staff in football’’ that he “wouldn’t trade for anyone.’’

Look that up.

Ryan has blown up much of the very staff he said he would not trade for anyone, with the offensive coordinator, offensive line coach and receivers coach now gone.

So those words Ryan handed out with such certainty now ring hollow.

So did Ryan’s lame attempt yesterday to tell us how “easy’’ it’s going to be to “fix’’ his fractured locker room, which is rife with resentment and back-biting.

“That’s biggest thing we can fix, but also the easiest thing to fix,’’ Ryan said. “We’ve got to bring our team back together. That’s a thing that we can fix quickly.’’

Because Ryan was speaking on a conference call, it was impossible to tell whether he was saying that with a straight face and whether his fingers were crossed.

Contrary to what Ryan tried to sell yesterday, the locker room turmoil, which as much as anything was the downfall of the 2011 Jets, is going to be the most difficult thing to fix and it is going to take a long time.

For starters, Ryan won’t have his players with him until mid-March, when voluntary offseason conditioning takes place. Training camp will not begin until late July. The next time Mark Sanchez walks into the locker room, he is going to look around and wonder who the anonymous players are who have been bad-mouthing him behind his back.

How is that going to be easy for Ryan to repair? It’s not.

“I don’t know how many there are that don’t have confidence in Mark, but I’ll tell you this: If it’s not all of them the majority of our team has great confidence in Mark,’’ Ryan insisted.

Sanchez already knows what Santonio Holmes, the selfish home-wrecker receiver, feels about him. Holmes, by his actions, has shown no respect for Sanchez or anyone else. Yet he likely will stay because it is financially prohibitive for the Jets to ditch him.

Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum say the Holmes issue is something they have to “work on,’’ but no one says specifically how they can fix the problems.

Ryan, too, offered no insight into how exactly newly-hired offensive coordinator Tony Sparano is going to make the Jets a better offense than Schottenheimer did.

Sparano only has been a part-time play-caller on offense before, and that was a few years ago in Dallas. As we all know, much of the Jets weakness on offense was Schottenheimer’s inconsistent in-game play-calling.

So, instead of telling us truths, Ryan gas-bagged about how “it’s an exciting time’’ for him right now.

That, like most everything else he said yesterday, was also a tough sell.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:48 PM

Cannizzaro is barking up the wrong tree if hes expecting that sort of honesty out of Rex. The F.O. also said Mangini would be around for the long haul and they weren't interested in Favre. This is a very cutthroat business and in this market especially you don't need to be taking people at their word
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM

This has so many holes that I think we'll be in the hole for 2 years before we can get back to playoff talks. It wouldn't surprise me if Rex came first comes out say we're are a superbowl team. Rex lied to himself and the fans. Every post game interview or press conference, he rave about how close and tight his team was. Now we know better. He ended the season in tears begging his team to be a team. He and his brother are a f***ing joke. STFU and go play and win.
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:


The Jets used to be the team that would draft/sign character over talent and that didn't work well. Now since Leon Hess died, it has been pretty much the opposite with the same result. They need to find a middle ground with a lot of good character guys with talent and extremely few guys if any that have talent but put themselves above the team. Each of the past 3 years, we kept dumping good guys and signing short term fix guys with baggage. Personally, I think Rex Ryan will be fired next year if the jets don't reach the playoffs....and that may be the best possible outcome for the team. The guy is turning into a gasbag.
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