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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
Jetsman05 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (08 October 2015 - 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:48 AM


Jets need overhaul after internal combustion

Last Updated: 9:26 AM, January 14, 2012

Posted: 12:47 AM, January 14, 2012

The “to-do’’ list Rex Ryan faces after his Jets melted down on the field, then further embarrassed themselves by purporting themselves in an even more unseemly way off of it, is a long one.

There are a lot of things that went bad on Ryan’s watch in 2011 that need fixing in 2012 — beginning with his own credibility.

Listening to Ryan on a conference call yesterday reinforced bold-talk bravado suits him a lot better than run-for-cover spin doctoring.


Listening to Ryan, without a trace of his usual bull-in-a-China-shop personality evident, gingerly sticking and moving his way through some pressing questions, was like seeing him driving around town in a Smart Car.

It didn’t fit.

Spin doctoring is for losers. If Ryan is going to be “true to himself’’ — as he often likes to say — he needs to be more truthful with those who listen to him.

Ryan has developed a recent habit of painting himself into some places from which he cannot gracefully extricate himself.

He repeated in recent weeks offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer would stay as long as he was not hired away as a head coach.

Schottenheimer, the scapegoat, is gone and not only is he not a head coach anywhere, he isn’t even employed.

If you have listened to Ryan during the last three years, you have heard him thump his chest about how he “has the best coaching staff in football’’ that he “wouldn’t trade for anyone.’’

Look that up.

Ryan has blown up much of the very staff he said he would not trade for anyone, with the offensive coordinator, offensive line coach and receivers coach now gone.

So those words Ryan handed out with such certainty now ring hollow.

So did Ryan’s lame attempt yesterday to tell us how “easy’’ it’s going to be to “fix’’ his fractured locker room, which is rife with resentment and back-biting.

“That’s biggest thing we can fix, but also the easiest thing to fix,’’ Ryan said. “We’ve got to bring our team back together. That’s a thing that we can fix quickly.’’

Because Ryan was speaking on a conference call, it was impossible to tell whether he was saying that with a straight face and whether his fingers were crossed.

Contrary to what Ryan tried to sell yesterday, the locker room turmoil, which as much as anything was the downfall of the 2011 Jets, is going to be the most difficult thing to fix and it is going to take a long time.

For starters, Ryan won’t have his players with him until mid-March, when voluntary offseason conditioning takes place. Training camp will not begin until late July. The next time Mark Sanchez walks into the locker room, he is going to look around and wonder who the anonymous players are who have been bad-mouthing him behind his back.

How is that going to be easy for Ryan to repair? It’s not.

“I don’t know how many there are that don’t have confidence in Mark, but I’ll tell you this: If it’s not all of them the majority of our team has great confidence in Mark,’’ Ryan insisted.

Sanchez already knows what Santonio Holmes, the selfish home-wrecker receiver, feels about him. Holmes, by his actions, has shown no respect for Sanchez or anyone else. Yet he likely will stay because it is financially prohibitive for the Jets to ditch him.

Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum say the Holmes issue is something they have to “work on,’’ but no one says specifically how they can fix the problems.

Ryan, too, offered no insight into how exactly newly-hired offensive coordinator Tony Sparano is going to make the Jets a better offense than Schottenheimer did.

Sparano only has been a part-time play-caller on offense before, and that was a few years ago in Dallas. As we all know, much of the Jets weakness on offense was Schottenheimer’s inconsistent in-game play-calling.

So, instead of telling us truths, Ryan gas-bagged about how “it’s an exciting time’’ for him right now.

That, like most everything else he said yesterday, was also a tough sell.


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:48 PM

Cannizzaro is barking up the wrong tree if hes expecting that sort of honesty out of Rex. The F.O. also said Mangini would be around for the long haul and they weren't interested in Favre. This is a very cutthroat business and in this market especially you don't need to be taking people at their word
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM

This has so many holes that I think we'll be in the hole for 2 years before we can get back to playoff talks. It wouldn't surprise me if Rex came first comes out say we're are a superbowl team. Rex lied to himself and the fans. Every post game interview or press conference, he rave about how close and tight his team was. Now we know better. He ended the season in tears begging his team to be a team. He and his brother are a f***ing joke. STFU and go play and win.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

The Jets used to be the team that would draft/sign character over talent and that didn't work well. Now since Leon Hess died, it has been pretty much the opposite with the same result. They need to find a middle ground with a lot of good character guys with talent and extremely few guys if any that have talent but put themselves above the team. Each of the past 3 years, we kept dumping good guys and signing short term fix guys with baggage. Personally, I think Rex Ryan will be fired next year if the jets don't reach the playoffs....and that may be the best possible outcome for the team. The guy is turning into a gasbag.

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