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Jets hire Maccagnan as GM and Bowles as HC. Who's starting the billboard fundraiser?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 09:21 PM) Mangini 49ers DC
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 09:21 PM) Bad hire, the 49ers are seriously downgrading in coach. Going from Harbuagh to Tomsula, now Fangio to Mangini
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 10:06 PM) Lol wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:17 AM) I hate when people say mangini built our team, I didn't know he was gm. Tannenbaum was good at making moves
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 02:05 PM) Bowles added pepper Johnson as dl coach, nice
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 04:13 PM) FIRE JOHNSON
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 04:13 PM) MORE TURNOVER
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 06:05 PM) I'm loving all these additions to the JETS coaching staff
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 06:06 PM) I can't wait to see what Maccagnan does in Free Agency and in the draft
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 07:40 PM) @AlbertBreer
The Jets are hiring Bears nat'l scout Rex Hogan as their director of college scouting. Chicago has released him from his contract
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 07:40 PM) @AlbertBreer 14m14 minutes ago
The Jets are also hiring Rams scout Brian Heimerdinger to a prominent front-office role. St. Louis let him out of his deal.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 07:48 PM) Heimerdinger is our director of player personnel now
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:12 PM) That is Mike Heimerdinger's son who used to be our OC in 05
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:12 PM) hopefully his son isn't as horrible as his pop was at play calling
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:17 PM) Everyone looks like a bad playcaller when you have no QB and have no talent
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:18 PM) When Heimerdinger was our OC it was when we had a ton of injuries on offense, were down to our 4th or 5th string QB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:42 PM) FIRE HOGAN
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:42 PM) FIRE HEIMERDINGER
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:47 PM) STFU Harlem you are f***ing getting real annoying with this FIRE bullshit
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a1elbow2.0 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 09:33 PM) I wonder if any possible new members come here, see no new posts for days and these about box conversations and wonder how the f*** this site is operational
MikeGangGree... Icon : (25 January 2015 - 12:22 AM) Would u rather FIRE EVERYONE or SUCK FOR THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 January 2015 - 05:20 PM) Looks like we are having a blizzard the next 2 days over here.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 January 2015 - 06:50 PM) My boss still said to come in lol
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 January 2015 - 06:50 PM) Possibility for midday dismissal though
Chadforpresi... Icon : (25 January 2015 - 09:52 PM) FIRE HARLEM
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azjetfan Icon : (26 January 2015 - 05:36 PM) this site has become dismal.
Mr_Jet Icon : (26 January 2015 - 06:47 PM) Thanks Obama.
Mr_Jet Icon : (26 January 2015 - 06:49 PM) But really for all of you complaining about the site. What is there to talk about? We have a new GM and HC that we don't know how good or bad they'll be yet. So there really isn't much to talk about with the draft still months away.
azjetfan Icon : (26 January 2015 - 09:59 PM) Even I can't blame Obama :drinks:
MikeGangGree... Icon : (26 January 2015 - 11:42 PM) It could be worse
MikeGangGree... Icon : (26 January 2015 - 11:42 PM) we could be Phinzrage
MikeGangGree... Icon : (26 January 2015 - 11:43 PM) We got nothing to talk about
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (27 January 2015 - 09:43 AM) HIRE MR JET
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 January 2015 - 11:17 AM) There are some good OGs available in FA, we have to sign one
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 January 2015 - 11:18 AM) Willie Colon was rated as one of the worst in football last season. So was Winters. Oday shows promise
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 January 2015 - 11:18 AM) Orlando Franklin, Mike Iupati, Clint Boling. Should sign one
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Jets Need An Overhaul After Blow-Up?

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:48 AM



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Jets need overhaul after internal combustion
By MARK CANNIZZARO

Last Updated: 9:26 AM, January 14, 2012

Posted: 12:47 AM, January 14, 2012

The “to-do’’ list Rex Ryan faces after his Jets melted down on the field, then further embarrassed themselves by purporting themselves in an even more unseemly way off of it, is a long one.

There are a lot of things that went bad on Ryan’s watch in 2011 that need fixing in 2012 — beginning with his own credibility.

Listening to Ryan on a conference call yesterday reinforced bold-talk bravado suits him a lot better than run-for-cover spin doctoring.

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Listening to Ryan, without a trace of his usual bull-in-a-China-shop personality evident, gingerly sticking and moving his way through some pressing questions, was like seeing him driving around town in a Smart Car.

It didn’t fit.

Spin doctoring is for losers. If Ryan is going to be “true to himself’’ — as he often likes to say — he needs to be more truthful with those who listen to him.

Ryan has developed a recent habit of painting himself into some places from which he cannot gracefully extricate himself.

He repeated in recent weeks offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer would stay as long as he was not hired away as a head coach.

Schottenheimer, the scapegoat, is gone and not only is he not a head coach anywhere, he isn’t even employed.

If you have listened to Ryan during the last three years, you have heard him thump his chest about how he “has the best coaching staff in football’’ that he “wouldn’t trade for anyone.’’

Look that up.

Ryan has blown up much of the very staff he said he would not trade for anyone, with the offensive coordinator, offensive line coach and receivers coach now gone.

So those words Ryan handed out with such certainty now ring hollow.

So did Ryan’s lame attempt yesterday to tell us how “easy’’ it’s going to be to “fix’’ his fractured locker room, which is rife with resentment and back-biting.

“That’s biggest thing we can fix, but also the easiest thing to fix,’’ Ryan said. “We’ve got to bring our team back together. That’s a thing that we can fix quickly.’’

Because Ryan was speaking on a conference call, it was impossible to tell whether he was saying that with a straight face and whether his fingers were crossed.

Contrary to what Ryan tried to sell yesterday, the locker room turmoil, which as much as anything was the downfall of the 2011 Jets, is going to be the most difficult thing to fix and it is going to take a long time.

For starters, Ryan won’t have his players with him until mid-March, when voluntary offseason conditioning takes place. Training camp will not begin until late July. The next time Mark Sanchez walks into the locker room, he is going to look around and wonder who the anonymous players are who have been bad-mouthing him behind his back.

How is that going to be easy for Ryan to repair? It’s not.

“I don’t know how many there are that don’t have confidence in Mark, but I’ll tell you this: If it’s not all of them the majority of our team has great confidence in Mark,’’ Ryan insisted.

Sanchez already knows what Santonio Holmes, the selfish home-wrecker receiver, feels about him. Holmes, by his actions, has shown no respect for Sanchez or anyone else. Yet he likely will stay because it is financially prohibitive for the Jets to ditch him.

Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum say the Holmes issue is something they have to “work on,’’ but no one says specifically how they can fix the problems.

Ryan, too, offered no insight into how exactly newly-hired offensive coordinator Tony Sparano is going to make the Jets a better offense than Schottenheimer did.

Sparano only has been a part-time play-caller on offense before, and that was a few years ago in Dallas. As we all know, much of the Jets weakness on offense was Schottenheimer’s inconsistent in-game play-calling.

So, instead of telling us truths, Ryan gas-bagged about how “it’s an exciting time’’ for him right now.

That, like most everything else he said yesterday, was also a tough sell.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:48 PM

Cannizzaro is barking up the wrong tree if hes expecting that sort of honesty out of Rex. The F.O. also said Mangini would be around for the long haul and they weren't interested in Favre. This is a very cutthroat business and in this market especially you don't need to be taking people at their word
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM

This has so many holes that I think we'll be in the hole for 2 years before we can get back to playoff talks. It wouldn't surprise me if Rex came first comes out say we're are a superbowl team. Rex lied to himself and the fans. Every post game interview or press conference, he rave about how close and tight his team was. Now we know better. He ended the season in tears begging his team to be a team. He and his brother are a f***ing joke. STFU and go play and win.
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:


The Jets used to be the team that would draft/sign character over talent and that didn't work well. Now since Leon Hess died, it has been pretty much the opposite with the same result. They need to find a middle ground with a lot of good character guys with talent and extremely few guys if any that have talent but put themselves above the team. Each of the past 3 years, we kept dumping good guys and signing short term fix guys with baggage. Personally, I think Rex Ryan will be fired next year if the jets don't reach the playoffs....and that may be the best possible outcome for the team. The guy is turning into a gasbag.
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