NYJetsFan.com Forums: Jets Need An Overhaul After Blow-Up? - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

@DWAZ73 : One other thing: Idzik now has landed arguably No. 1 QB, RB and WR in free agency this offseason despite deliberate approach. #Jets
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:40 PM) Snell
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:41 PM) The title race is real
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 02:42 PM) Jordan...what number was he? it was 30sometihng
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 02:43 PM) tanaka had a great game today. gave up 2 hits due to bunts. 10K
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 02:48 PM) Jordan was #34 with the Jets.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:03 PM) Tanaka is looking like a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:04 PM) Jets added Vick, Chris Johnson, and Eric Decker to the offense.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:04 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:04 PM) And this draft is loaded at the offensive skill positions
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:04 PM) Hopefully we can get anohter starting WR and starting TE in the draft
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:05 PM) Our offense could be much better than last year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:05 PM) can't get much worse than what it's been the last 2 years
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 03:22 PM) Very cool
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:24 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:32 PM) still need another WR
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:33 PM) so i bet powell barely gets any touches this year and goodson gets cut
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:34 PM) Goodson is as good as gone.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:34 PM) With all his legal issues and coming off injury he is done. Possibly even in the NFL
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) Powell is average anyways.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) @ProFootballTalk 5m

Per source, Chris Johnson's two-year deal has a base value of $8 million, with another $1 million available in incentives based on yardage.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:40 PM) He does a lot of things well, but isn't talented enough. Johnson has breakaway ability still and Ivory is man beast running the football
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:41 PM) We will get another WR in the draft. Even in round 2 you can get a starting WR
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:09 PM) I am still standing by my CB in the first round and WR in the second prediction
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 05:19 PM) The title race is bale
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:34 PM) Sidney rice coming in for a visit
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:49 PM) I think the Jets are getting themselves ready to draft best player available
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:49 PM) Last year they stuck to their board
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) if they sign him I think that means they look to take a CB round 1
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:32 PM) “@AdamSchefter: RB Chris Johnson's 2-year deal with Jets has a team option in it for year two. Jets have option to pick up year two at $4M in February 2015.”
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:51 PM) @AlbertBreer 2m
Sidney Rice has agreed to terms with the Seahawks on a one-year deal, per source.
Expand
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:55 PM) There is really only 2 CBs worth taking at 18
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:56 PM) I rather get a offensive playmaker
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 PM) LaMont Jordan was 34
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) liar
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:05 PM) He wore #34 when he played for the JETS
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:05 PM) I should know I met him at an event in his last year with the JETS before he went to Oakland
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:05 PM) GFYS 0099 you shit talker
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:06 PM) http://www.nydailyne...entry-1.1758342
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:06 PM) there's no reason we can't have someone off this site on that list too
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 07:08 PM) Rice resigned with Seattle
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:08 PM) did you scare him into going to Oakland?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:18 PM) unfortunately those sites are too much bigger than our
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) WOOOO
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 11:01 PM) I'm sure it's possible but this isn't a blog site as much as its a login and yell about the jets site
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 11:01 PM) WOO
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1

Jets Need An Overhaul After Blow-Up?

#1 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,128
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:48 AM



Quote

Jets need overhaul after internal combustion
By MARK CANNIZZARO

Last Updated: 9:26 AM, January 14, 2012

Posted: 12:47 AM, January 14, 2012

The “to-do’’ list Rex Ryan faces after his Jets melted down on the field, then further embarrassed themselves by purporting themselves in an even more unseemly way off of it, is a long one.

There are a lot of things that went bad on Ryan’s watch in 2011 that need fixing in 2012 — beginning with his own credibility.

Listening to Ryan on a conference call yesterday reinforced bold-talk bravado suits him a lot better than run-for-cover spin doctoring.

UPDATES FROM OUR JETS BLOG

Listening to Ryan, without a trace of his usual bull-in-a-China-shop personality evident, gingerly sticking and moving his way through some pressing questions, was like seeing him driving around town in a Smart Car.

It didn’t fit.

Spin doctoring is for losers. If Ryan is going to be “true to himself’’ — as he often likes to say — he needs to be more truthful with those who listen to him.

Ryan has developed a recent habit of painting himself into some places from which he cannot gracefully extricate himself.

He repeated in recent weeks offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer would stay as long as he was not hired away as a head coach.

Schottenheimer, the scapegoat, is gone and not only is he not a head coach anywhere, he isn’t even employed.

If you have listened to Ryan during the last three years, you have heard him thump his chest about how he “has the best coaching staff in football’’ that he “wouldn’t trade for anyone.’’

Look that up.

Ryan has blown up much of the very staff he said he would not trade for anyone, with the offensive coordinator, offensive line coach and receivers coach now gone.

So those words Ryan handed out with such certainty now ring hollow.

So did Ryan’s lame attempt yesterday to tell us how “easy’’ it’s going to be to “fix’’ his fractured locker room, which is rife with resentment and back-biting.

“That’s biggest thing we can fix, but also the easiest thing to fix,’’ Ryan said. “We’ve got to bring our team back together. That’s a thing that we can fix quickly.’’

Because Ryan was speaking on a conference call, it was impossible to tell whether he was saying that with a straight face and whether his fingers were crossed.

Contrary to what Ryan tried to sell yesterday, the locker room turmoil, which as much as anything was the downfall of the 2011 Jets, is going to be the most difficult thing to fix and it is going to take a long time.

For starters, Ryan won’t have his players with him until mid-March, when voluntary offseason conditioning takes place. Training camp will not begin until late July. The next time Mark Sanchez walks into the locker room, he is going to look around and wonder who the anonymous players are who have been bad-mouthing him behind his back.

How is that going to be easy for Ryan to repair? It’s not.

“I don’t know how many there are that don’t have confidence in Mark, but I’ll tell you this: If it’s not all of them the majority of our team has great confidence in Mark,’’ Ryan insisted.

Sanchez already knows what Santonio Holmes, the selfish home-wrecker receiver, feels about him. Holmes, by his actions, has shown no respect for Sanchez or anyone else. Yet he likely will stay because it is financially prohibitive for the Jets to ditch him.

Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum say the Holmes issue is something they have to “work on,’’ but no one says specifically how they can fix the problems.

Ryan, too, offered no insight into how exactly newly-hired offensive coordinator Tony Sparano is going to make the Jets a better offense than Schottenheimer did.

Sparano only has been a part-time play-caller on offense before, and that was a few years ago in Dallas. As we all know, much of the Jets weakness on offense was Schottenheimer’s inconsistent in-game play-calling.

So, instead of telling us truths, Ryan gas-bagged about how “it’s an exciting time’’ for him right now.

That, like most everything else he said yesterday, was also a tough sell.

mark.cannizzaro@nypost.com


Read more: http://www.nypost.co...I#ixzz1jXvsrCOV


0

#2 User is offline   HarlemHxC814 Icon

  • 06 Best Avatar Award / N.O.P. GUARD
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 4,993
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:48 PM

Cannizzaro is barking up the wrong tree if hes expecting that sort of honesty out of Rex. The F.O. also said Mangini would be around for the long haul and they weren't interested in Favre. This is a very cutthroat business and in this market especially you don't need to be taking people at their word
Posted Image
0

#3 User is offline   reg83ny Icon

  • TMZ Correspondent
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 4,548
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Beantown...I missed NY

  • MLB:

Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM

This has so many holes that I think we'll be in the hole for 2 years before we can get back to playoff talks. It wouldn't surprise me if Rex came first comes out say we're are a superbowl team. Rex lied to himself and the fans. Every post game interview or press conference, he rave about how close and tight his team was. Now we know better. He ended the season in tears begging his team to be a team. He and his brother are a f***ing joke. STFU and go play and win.
0

#4 User is offline   jetfan4life12 Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,075
  • Joined: 04-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Boca Raton, FL

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 15 January 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:


The Jets used to be the team that would draft/sign character over talent and that didn't work well. Now since Leon Hess died, it has been pretty much the opposite with the same result. They need to find a middle ground with a lot of good character guys with talent and extremely few guys if any that have talent but put themselves above the team. Each of the past 3 years, we kept dumping good guys and signing short term fix guys with baggage. Personally, I think Rex Ryan will be fired next year if the jets don't reach the playoffs....and that may be the best possible outcome for the team. The guy is turning into a gasbag.
0

Page 1 of 1


Fast Reply

  

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users