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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:45 AM


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Prospect Watch: DE/OLB Melvin Ingram
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As the Jets journey towards the draft in April, I will examine prospects that could potentially be on the Jets' draft board. Please feel free to leave your thoughts or suggest a prospect in the comments.

College: South Carolina
Measurables
: 6'2″ 276 lbs
Projected Round
: 1st

Positives

Ingram has a healthy pass rushing repertoire and can rush from multiple positions. He plays with a good pad level and is difficult to sustain a block against for the duration of a play as his strength and leverage aid him. He disengages from blockers well and has lateral quickness and good closing speed. Against the run he has the strength to anchor in there and has been known to slip double teams to make the tackle. He has good range in pursuit and maintains outside contain. He has had experience in coverage; he has fluid hips, excellent footwork in his backpedal and is very light on his feet. He is a versatile specimen and could play multiple positions and he has a non-stop motor.

Areas of Improvement

He doesn't have the same force against the run as he does the pass, struggling to locate the ball, and is inconsistent coming off the snap. He often leaves his feet attempting tackles and must learn to consistently wrap up his man. His measurables do come into question since he doesn't physically fit into any one position. A lack of starting experience means he will need some fine tuning.

Analysis

Ingram, while relatively small if we're talking about fitting him in at a certain position, is solid prospect who has the tools to become an excellent pass rusher at the next level. There are some concerns, size aside, about the fundamentals and technique of his game but certainly those are all correctable with coaching.




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Posted 16 January 2012 - 03:14 PM

Ingram had a beastly year, and I was definitely a fan watching him out on the field. But I wonder how much of that was Ingram actually being a pass rushing monster, and how much of that was teams throwing a double at Clowney, cause that dude is the real BEAST.

I wouldn't complain at all if we got him, but I have a feeling a lot of his production was due to Clowney's unstoppable talent.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 03:20 PM

View Postdayshlims, on 16 January 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Ingram had a beastly year, and I was definitely a fan watching him out on the field. But I wonder how much of that was Ingram actually being a pass rushing monster, and how much of that was teams throwing a double at Clowney, cause that dude is the real BEAST.

I wouldn't complain at all if we got him, but I have a feeling a lot of his production was due to Clowney's unstoppable talent.

Ingram had 9.5 sacks last season as well. I haven't seen much of Ingram though
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 03:35 PM

View Postdayshlims, on 16 January 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Ingram had a beastly year, and I was definitely a fan watching him out on the field. But I wonder how much of that was Ingram actually being a pass rushing monster, and how much of that was teams throwing a double at Clowney, cause that dude is the real BEAST.

I wouldn't complain at all if we got him, but I have a feeling a lot of his production was due to Clowney's unstoppable talent.


Clowney wasn't double teamed all that often, and was rotated a bit too. Ingram has a wide array of pass rushing moves and they were able to move him around as well, to exploit matchups. Can rush from the interior as well as outside.

Clowney is a stud but he's raw, he didn't demand a ton of attention.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:16 PM

NO! no more OLB/DE's in the first round. Lets address another need before we try the pass rush lottery again. Let Maybin learn the system better so he can play more and Mo Wilk will have a year's experience under his belt, try to work with that. I am not against drafting a pass rusher all together, but definately not in the first round when we have more glaring needs and prime position in the draft. WR or Safety, otherwise the 1st round is a failure.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

View PostClemens11, on 16 January 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

NO! no more OLB/DE's in the first round. Lets address another need before we try the pass rush lottery again. Let Maybin learn the system better so he can play more and Mo Wilk will have a year's experience under his belt, try to work with that. I am not against drafting a pass rusher all together, but definately not in the first round when we have more glaring needs and prime position in the draft. WR or Safety, otherwise the 1st round is a failure.

Getting a pass rusher is one of our biggest needs.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:35 PM

View PostClemens11, on 16 January 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

NO! no more OLB/DE's in the first round. Lets address another need before we try the pass rush lottery again. Let Maybin learn the system better so he can play more and Mo Wilk will have a year's experience under his belt, try to work with that. I am not against drafting a pass rusher all together, but definately not in the first round when we have more glaring needs and prime position in the draft. WR or Safety, otherwise the 1st round is a failure.


I think we go BPA and not get locked into a position.

WIth that said, we haven't had a passrusher since John Abraham left.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:43 PM

View PostClemens11, on 16 January 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

NO! no more OLB/DE's in the first round. Lets address another need before we try the pass rush lottery again. Let Maybin learn the system better so he can play more and Mo Wilk will have a year's experience under his belt, try to work with that. I am not against drafting a pass rusher all together, but definately not in the first round when we have more glaring needs and prime position in the draft. WR or Safety, otherwise the 1st round is a failure.


Not enough safeties to bother with, unless we are set on Barron. Other than that, the talent just isn't there.

As for WR? I obviously wouldn't say no to someone like Alshon Jeffery.

But a Rush-backer is one of our biggest needs.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:20 PM

Yep.. OLB is our biggest need at this time. We gotta get some heat off the edge. This defense can be WAY better if Rex doesn't feel he has to bring 6 and 7 guys every blitz. Imagine how potent we'll be if we can get that 1 guy.

- draft beast OLB
- he proves himself and is a terror off the edge
- now teams have to worry about double teams
- now other Jets players can get sacks

So not only does it help Rex it helps the team in so many different ways.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 04:02 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 16 January 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

Not enough safeties to bother with, unless we are set on Barron. Other than that, the talent just isn't there.

As for WR? I obviously wouldn't say no to someone like Alshon Jeffery.

But a Rush-backer is one of our biggest needs.

I certainly wouldn't complain if we were able to draft another John Abraham (but one that stays healthy). But the problem is that there really isn't a sure fire method to determine who works out well and who doesn't. On the other hand, the success rate for first round RT's is much higher and we sure need one of those.

As I suspect this organization won't allow MeElroy to honestly compete for the QB job, we have no choice but to surround Sanchez with super strong protection. And if we get a RT who can run block and pass block, we strengthen our QB, RB and WR's.

Do you really believe Victor Cruz would be a Pro Bowl WR if he was on the Jets? I say go with RT and if there isn't one available at the pick - trade down and look for Mark Barron and an extra 2nd round pick. WR's can be had with later round picks. And Greene and McKnight can handle the load if we have an offensive line that can play together.
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