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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Would You Want Peyton Manning?

Poll: Would you want Peyton Manning on the Jets? (31 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Hell Yes (12 votes [38.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.71%

  2. No, I'm sticking with Sanchez (19 votes [61.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.29%

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

For everyone saying that its a no brainer to take him if he's healthy I have to ask....how many rings has he won? You act like he's an automatic title but yet when he was in our division with us and Brady, he repeatedly finished behind us & the Pats. He had his time but he's nothing more than a good regular season QB. He's always been known as a choke artist in the post season and most of us were the guys calling him that, but now that he may be available you want him? So coming to NY after 3 neck surgeries is going to make him better all of a sudden how exactly?
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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:12 PM

His playoff numbers are better than Brady's. Difference was that Brady's championships were won because the Patriots had an elite defense those years. I'm accounting Peyton Manning added to Rex's defense. We would have a chance to go around 14-2 in the season and win the division for once giving us a better chance at a Sb.

Everyone complained that they want a elite QB and how the league is won by them but people are saying no to Manning, interesting.
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:53 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 24 January 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

Thoughts?

Seems is if Peyton and Colts are going part ways. If he plays do you want him?


No. Too pricey and too much of a question mark.

We gotta fix the shit wrong with this team the long, hard way.
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:52 PM


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:33 PM

That can be a nice tribute video for when he gets voted into the Hall of Fame in about 5 years from now. Maybe 6 if he comes out to play this season, gets sacked & forced into retirement by being forced into a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Get over it. He's NOT coming here. He's NOT wanted. Not by the majority of Jets fans because most of us know that he's done.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:52 PM

People bash Sanchez all season and then don't want Manning. And I did more research and from what I read it sounds like once his nerve is healed his neck will be stronger than it was before he got this surgery, he had a better chance at getting seriously injured before he had it then he will when its healed.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:01 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 January 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

People bash Sanchez all season and then don't want Manning. And I did more research and from what I read it sounds like once his nerve is healed his neck will be stronger than it was before he got this surgery, he had a better chance at getting seriously injured before he had it then he will when its healed.


You're acting like it's a guarantee that he's going to heal correctly and that he'll be able to play like he used to. I'm sorry to tell you but we aren't the Indianapolis Colts. You're acting like you want to sell the next 5-10 years of the team out for one or two years of having this guy in the BEST case scenario. He's not going to make it through the next season IF he ever plays again. You need to accept that.

Please share whatever research you've done that says that Manning is going to be stronger. Or did you misread or misunderstand what was being said. If it's saying he's going to be stronger than what he was before the very last surgery, that may be the case, but you have to understand that to was 2 surgeries within a 9 week period so of course he'd be stronger than he was immediately before the last one. There's no way in hell he'll be stronger than he was before the first one 19 months ago.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:19 PM

He played with a neck injury from 2006 to when he got the surgery to fix it, I have yet to see a doctor report that he has 1-2 years max and will end up in a wheel chair once this nerve heals. Its just a matter of when is it going to heal because its unpredictable. I just see a opportunity to add a elite QB, if we got him watch everyone on this board will be hyped up for him. If we don't we go with Sanchez and see if hes the future, which he may not be as he has to improve a lot.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 January 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

He played with a neck injury from 2006 to when he got the surgery to fix it, I have yet to see a doctor report that he has 1-2 years max and will end up in a wheel chair once this nerve heals. Its just a matter of when is it going to heal because its unpredictable. I just see a opportunity to add a elite QB, if we got him watch everyone on this board will be hyped up for him. If we don't we go with Sanchez and see if hes the future, which he may not be as he has to improve a lot.


You were also all gung ho about us getting old grey beard if I'm not mistaken right? How far did that get us? I was against that one too. We have too many holes to fill to take a HUMONGOUS risk on Manning not getting crippled. Let's not forget that he's already known as a QB that doesn't like to get hit. Do you really think he would survive the number of hits Hunter would allow him to take? I don't. I'm not willing to sell out the rest of the team for one player that you personally consider elite because he's won ONE ring but has a lot of passing yards & has thrown a lot of TD's during the regular season. While Sanchez will likely never be as good as Manning, you can't guarantee that he won't be AND he's already got a better ratio of post-season probability to lead the Jets to a Superbowl before Manning ever could. Sanchez's post season record 4-2. Manning's 9-10.....Seems to me that Sanchez has a higher winning percentage when it counts.

While singing Favre & Manning's praises....make sure you keep in mind the other records they hold. Favre: Most INT's all time & Manning: Most INT's in a single game & Most INT's in a single season.

And for the record....no....you would NOT see me all hyped up about getting Manning if we got him. I was against getting grey beard before he was ever signed, was unhappy when he was here & knew he wouldn't survive the season & predicted as much. I would feel exactly the same if choke boy came here too.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:52 PM

Manning is not Favre, hes a better QB and a smarter QB. Hes also 35 going to be 36 next season, Favre was like 40 already. Manning would not be a 1 year move, I think if it heals he has another 3 great years left in him, maybe more. He doesn't take many hits. If it doesn't heal it doesn't matter because he won't be playing next year.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:54 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 January 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

People bash Sanchez all season and then don't want Manning. And I did more research and from what I read it sounds like once his nerve is healed his neck will be stronger than it was before he got this surgery, he had a better chance at getting seriously injured before he had it then he will when its healed.



Nothing is every stronger than it was after surgery. Once you have surgery on your neck and back you are NEVER the same again.

That being said, if he has shown that he has recovered enough and is clear to take hits and be tackled, I would take him with arms wide open. you can relax now.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:11 PM

View PostClemens11, on 27 January 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Nothing is every stronger than it was after surgery. Once you have surgery on your neck and back you are NEVER the same again.

That being said, if he has shown that he has recovered enough and is clear to take hits and be tackled, I would take him with arms wide open. you can relax now.

Glad we are all doctors here, I said from what I have heard his neck will be stronger than it was before the surgery, he had a neck problem since 2006.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:39 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 January 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

Glad we are all doctors here, I said from what I have heard his neck will be stronger than it was before the surgery, he had a neck problem since 2006.



Not a doctor, just have many people in my family who have had back surgeries, some multiple, and that is there take on it. So that is not from a doctor, but from multiple patients who I have to see deal with the pain everyday.

And if he had surgery, it should be stronger than it was when it was still injured an unattended, otherwise what was the point of going through surgery? But I get what your trying to say. Since 2006 Peyton has been great so if he has a stronger neck he should still be great.
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