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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

That were the bastard stepchildren of New York and be happy with that stance?


Even if we were to win the superbowl next year it still doesn't change a thing. Were all bastards.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

No one wants to admit it? It's ok guys. I can sympathize. I don't want to either.

The new stadium was supposed to our time to shine. It was a symbol of that things were going to change. Instead we have a windbag coach and 2 near superbowl misses.

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Oh happy daaaaays.. oh happy daaaaaaaaaays.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:35 PM

Just play in one of these f***ing Super Bowls in my life time, please.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:59 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 05 February 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

Just play in one of these f***ing Super Bowls in my life time, please.


I feel your pain bro. Trust me, I feel your pain. I'm 33, if I live to see 60 that's 27 years. I'm f*ckin begging them. Just 1.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:24 PM

I barely watch the SB because of envy every year!
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 04:12 PM

Were the little sisters no doubt about it. We're a jinxed team. We had 2 chances in a row in the AFC Title game and collapsed twice. Watching the Giants this whole post season and seeing how many breaks they caught, it really made me wonder why we couldn't get just one. Better yet, why are we the team that always gives the other teams breaks?

I think we're at least a half a decade away. That includes a new quarterback. Possibly even a new coach depending on how much or how little patience the organization has in Coach Ryan.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 04:15 PM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 06 February 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Were the little sisters no doubt about it. We're a jinxed team. We had 2 chances in a row in the AFC Title game and collapsed twice. Watching the Giants this whole post season and seeing how many breaks they caught, it really made me wonder why we couldn't get just one. Better yet, why are we the team that always gives the other teams breaks?

I think we're at least a half a decade away. That includes a new quarterback. Possibly even a new coach depending on how much or how little patience the organization has in Coach Ryan.


We caught A LOT of breaks on our championship runs. I just think we ran out of breaks. Both times.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:11 PM

It seems like I enjoy watching football for completely other reasons then most of you
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:25 PM

This may seem backwards to some people here but I was just happy to see Brady & the Gaytriots have their hopes of a championship smashed by a New York team once again.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:03 PM

View Postsantana, on 06 February 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

It seems like I enjoy watching football for completely other reasons then most of you


Explain? You mean losing doesn't really bother you? Jets in the superbowl don't bother you?
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:04 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 06 February 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

This may seem backwards to some people here but I was just happy to see Brady & the Gaytriots have their hopes of a championship smashed by a New York team once again.


For a split second yea, then I realized all the Giants friends I have, thinking of all the arguments I've had with them. Then I cringe.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:40 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 06 February 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

We caught A LOT of breaks on our championship runs. I just think we ran out of breaks. Both times.


The defensive scheme employed by Rex and the defensive staff against the Pats was anything but a break. That was fantastic game planning and great execution.

Sean Greene's run against the Chargers wasn't a break either.

All teams get good breaks but to ignore how well the team played in their 4 playoff wins is crazy.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:49 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 06 February 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

We caught A LOT of breaks on our championship runs. I just think we ran out of breaks. Both times.



View PostMikeIneedajob, on 06 February 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

The defensive scheme employed by Rex and the defensive staff against the Pats was anything but a break. That was fantastic game planning and great execution.

Sean Greene's run against the Chargers wasn't a break either.

All teams get good breaks but to ignore how well the team played in their 4 playoff wins is crazy.

Exactly. Sure we got maybe a break or two. The inexplicable time out in the Colts game was the only glaring one though. But look at the Giants. Look how lucky they got. Took advantage of two onside kicks that should have never been called. Got lucky with 2 special teams fumbles while playing a team that didn't fumble a punt all year. In the Superbowl how many times did they fumble the ball and have it luckily bounce right to one of their own players?

And then on the last few drivers. Suddenly everyone on the Patriots forgets how to catch the ball. Welker misses a catch he's never missed before and will never miss again. And then on the last drive, 2 wide open drops that cost them several downs, several yards and a lot of time on the clock. I mean, it's lucky break after lucky break with the Giants.

Meanwhile. Lets roll back the clocks:

-Blew 10 point lead in 1998 AFC Title game by getting shut out in the second half.

-AFC favorites in 1999 only for the QB to rupture his achilles tendon and set the franchise back several years.

-Jets draft the best QB in the 2000 draft. Jets win 2002 AFC East title. Future looks bright for the franchise.

-Star QB breaks wrist. Comes back. Tears throwing shoulder a year later and is never good again.

-Jets have 15-1 Steelers on the ropes with a chance to win the game and go to the AFC Championship game. Most accurate kicker in franchise history misses 2 field goals. Jets lose.

-Jets AFC contenders going into 2005 season. Jets sign Ty Law as the "last piece of the puzzle." Star QB tears shoulder again. Players go down one by one. Jets go from Superbowl contenders to 4-12.

-Jets hire new coach, a man who learned from the best in the business.

-Jets switch defensive schemes and are forced to get rid of an elite linebacker because he didn't fit the system.

-Jets have a successful 2006 season. Leading many to believe that they finally found the right coach.

-Jets flop in 2007, 4-12. Jets lose to the big bro Giants, local Eagles and are swept by hated rivals New England.

-Jets watch stadium-mate Giants vs hated New England in one of the best Superbowl ever.

-Jets get one of the best QBs of all time, drop once bright star whose career was off track due to injuries. Jets start 8-3 and are the best team in the AFC, almost undoubtedly after beating the undefeated Titans.

-Jets flop down the stretch, going 1-4 and finishing 3rd in the division to the second place Patriots, and the Dolphins led by the QB the Jets released.

-2009. A new hope. Sanchez.

-Defense leads Jets to AFC Championship game, only to blow an 11 point halftime lead.

-2010. The Empire Strikes back. Jets finish second in division, and produce the second biggest win in franchise history beating the Pats in the playoffs.

-Another AFC title game appearance see the Jets fail to even show up for the first half and by the second half, the Jets were in too big of a hole to come out of.

-20ll. Return of the...f*** it. We failed.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:52 AM

I guess the point of bringing up all the failures is that, yeah, we catch some breaks. But for every break the Jets catch, three breaks go against them.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:05 AM

That's a good summary of the Jets since 1998. But what have the Dolphins and Bills done during that time? All I'm saying is it could've been worse. At least we saw a glimpse of the promise land. Miami and Buffalo can't even say that.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:41 AM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 07 February 2012 - 05:52 AM, said:

I guess the point of bringing up all the failures is that, yeah, we catch some breaks. But for every break the Jets catch, three breaks go against them.


To me one of the key themes is the lack of continuity and consistent change the Jets have undergone since 1998. In that time we've had Parcells, Belichick (for a day), Groh, Edwards, Mangini and Ryan as head coaches, whereas the Giants and Patriots have had two - Fassel and Coughlin for New York, Carroll and Belichick for New England. The situation at quarterback has been pretty similar too. New England have had Bledsoe and Brady, while New York have gone from Kerry Collins to Eli Manning via Kurt Warner for a handful of games. The Jets, on the other hand, have gone from Testaverde to Lucas back to Vinny to Pennington then to Favre via a number of backups after Chad's injuries and finally to Sanchez.
No doubt the changes the franchise has undergone at these two important positions haven't been as severe as other teams around the league - the Dolphins and Bills being just two examples - but they surely must be seen as significant. We haven't had luck at times either, especially with Testaverde and Pennington being blighted by injuries at times when it looked as though the team would be contenders. However when we've had the chance to do something special, the Jets have shot themselves in the foot.
How this season finished for the Jets with a turgid late season run, locker room friction and two of our biggest rivals meeting in the Super Bowl has inflated this sense of crisis though. We finished this year 8-8. Yes we underachieved and have holes to fill, but cool heads prevail more often than not; sweeping changes would likely be a counterproductive reaction at this moment.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 09:28 AM

View PostMikeIneedajob, on 06 February 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

The defensive scheme employed by Rex and the defensive staff against the Pats was anything but a break. That was fantastic game planning and great execution.

Sean Greene's run against the Chargers wasn't a break either.

All teams get good breaks but to ignore how well the team played in their 4 playoff wins is crazy.


I think we caught a lot of breaks get TO the AFC championship game. We played great in the playoffs but getting there was nothing short of a miracle.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:06 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 09 February 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

I think we caught a lot of breaks get TO the AFC championship game. We played great in the playoffs but getting there was nothing short of a miracle.

I disagree. With the lone exception I can think of being the interception off if Jackson's feet, we didn't really get "breaks". The defense played out if their minds in those playoff wins. In fact I remember in the Pats game, they caught all the breaks. They got lucky after a beautiful interception, and I remember a lot of forced fumbles that luckily bounced right back to a Patriots player. It would have been a 2 td, dominating win if the Jets didn't decide to run the ridiculous prevent defense late and allow Brady a free touchdown.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:25 PM

View PostJetsOhFive, on 09 February 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

I disagree. With the lone exception I can think of being the interception off if Jackson's feet, we didn't really get "breaks". The defense played out if their minds in those playoff wins. In fact I remember in the Pats game, they caught all the breaks. They got lucky after a beautiful interception, and I remember a lot of forced fumbles that luckily bounced right back to a Patriots player. It would have been a 2 td, dominating win if the Jets didn't decide to run the ridiculous prevent defense late and allow Brady a free touchdown.


You don't think we got breaks? Many breaks?

The Browns game
Charger game

How many fortunate 4th quarter come backs did we have in those 2 years?

Sneaking into the playoffs? Oh we caught a bunch of breaks.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:59 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 09 February 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

You don't think we got breaks? Many breaks?

The Browns game
Charger game

How many fortunate 4th quarter come backs did we have in those 2 years?

Sneaking into the playoffs? Oh we caught a bunch of breaks.

Oh regular season most certainly did we catch breaks. But in the playoffs everything disappeared and then we caught nothing.
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