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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

I'm curious as to what everyone thinks about our running back situation.

It seems like Greene is gonna get the start next year.

I really like Bilal Powell. I like the little that I saw from him in the preseason even though our line was horrendous, he looked very powerful. He also looked deceptively fast. He caught out the backfield a few times and I liked his burst.

We haven't had a big sample from him so maybe some of you guys know a little more about his talent. I honestly felt the only reason he wasn't in the lineup over Joe McKnight is because McKnight plays special teams. I think he's an all around better running back than McKnight.

So with that said, do we bring someone else in or do we work with what we have?
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:09 PM

He may have done well in the preseason, but from the - admittedly few - touches he got in the regular season Powell didn't do much. Opinion is mixed here on Greene and if the front office feel RB is a need then Powell will likely be buried on the depth chart again next season. The position isn't exactly the biggest priority though so if LT leaves/retires, Bilal could get a better opportunity to show what he can do.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:31 PM

No idea what to think, need to see more.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:58 PM

i think powell looks slow and weak personally. i wasn't expecting much and i still was disappointed. greene had a solid year. 1000+ yards higher then a 4.1 YPC behind a bad o-line. Mcnknight looks shifty and seeems like he'll fill the 3rd down back roll nicely. powell won't see any time unless one RB goes down
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

I think Greene is about as good of a back as you can get for a downhill, no receiving required offense. McKnight is a athletic counterpoint that will be useful in other packages. We need a second power back, and Powell might be that. Miami got pretty decent production out of Bush and Thomas, who are fairly similar in many ways to what Sparano has here.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 05:50 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 07 February 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

No idea what to think, need to see more.

Here's something to think about. The Giants won the Super Bowl with running backs that are okay - no great one in the group. They beat the Patriots who had even less. The Packers last year certainly didn't have great backs nor did the Steelers. The Saints don't exactly have killer backs either. So I think we can say with a fair degree of confidence, we have the backs to win a Super Bowl. Open holes and they will bring it.

It's the offensive line that is crucial.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 06:28 PM

Greene is a back up.
McKnight is more of a situational, scat back/Wr.
Bilal? Just need to see more.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

View Postchocomag, on 07 February 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

Here's something to think about. The Giants won the Super Bowl with running backs that are okay - no great one in the group. They beat the Patriots who had even less. The Packers last year certainly didn't have great backs nor did the Steelers. The Saints don't exactly have killer backs either. So I think we can say with a fair degree of confidence, we have the backs to win a Super Bowl. Open holes and they will bring it.

It's the offensive line that is crucial.


I agree 100% greene averaged 5YPC as a backup and TJ 4.5 cause our o-line was dominating
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Greene is a back up.
McKnight is more of a situational, scat back/Wr.
Bilal? Just need to see more.


I think greene was a solid starter. wasn't great but our o-line didn't play well at all. he still had 1000 yards and higher then a 4YPC and didn't get hurt. thats basically your average starter. can we get a better back? sure but its not worth it. as pointed out before when was the last time a team with a great RB won anything? barry sanders, adrian peterson, chris johnson etc. the last 2 i can think of is faulk with the rams and lewis with the ravens since 2000. the other 8 or so winners didn't have good RBs at all
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 12:49 AM

View Postchocomag, on 07 February 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Here's something to think about. The Giants won the Super Bowl with running backs that are okay - no great one in the group. They beat the Patriots who had even less. The Packers last year certainly didn't have great backs nor did the Steelers. The Saints don't exactly have killer backs either. So I think we can say with a fair degree of confidence, we have the backs to win a Super Bowl. Open holes and they will bring it.

It's the offensive line that is crucial.

Yes but the Giants have a great quarterback. The Jets do not. The Giants can afford to have their running game simply be complimentary to the passing game since the offense literally runs through Manning now.

When Powell had his opportunities in the regular season he was unspectacular to say the least, particularly against Denver. I was not impressed and am left to believe that the Jets will need to draft a running back to compliment Greene. And I don't want to hear about McKnight. He is not as good of a runner as Leon Washington and should just be relegated to kick returner and maybe third down back.
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