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SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:43 PM) Geno was the favorite to win the Heisman this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) He was also a Top 5 pick this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) If he came out in 2012, he might have gotten drafted before RG3
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:56 PM) TEH KNICKS
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:25 PM) noway he would have been drafted before RGIII
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) Tehhhh
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:12 PM) chuck norris said tebow is a great QB. i'm so conflicted becuase tebow sucks but on the other hand if chuck norris said it, it must be true lol
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:21 PM) Geno was not the favorite to win the heisman going into the year lol
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:21 PM) you don't watch college football, stop
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:23 PM) He might not even of been in the second tier of players
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:25 PM) I've read a ton of articles and all had him as the favorite
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:25 PM) Who was the favorite then?
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:27 PM) "Smith was already going to be on most Heisman preseason lists, but a 407-yard, 6-TD performance in the Orange Bowl win over Clemson only solidified him as an elite passer. He can make every throw on the field and has a plethora of talented receivers coming back. Since this team will likely be playing in the Big 12, which has had the uncanny knack for inflating quarterback numbers recently, Smith and head coach Dana Holgorsen are going to leave opposing defenses charred and crippled on most Saturdays."
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:27 PM) That's from a Jan 2012 article
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:27 PM) You can google shit from 14 months ago and find a f*** ton of these
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:29 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/top-10-heisman-trophy-candidates-2012-heading-season-150300441--ncaaf.html
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:31 PM) http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/8/17/3249284/heisman-trophy-watchlist-2012-las-vegas-betting-odds-line-matt-barkley-montee-ball-denard-robinson
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:32 PM) He was 4th according to Vegas odds in April 2012
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:53 PM) 4th makes him the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:53 PM) you said he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:53 PM) he wasn't anything near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:54 PM) he reached his pinnacle in the heisman race in the early part of last season
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:54 PM) at that point he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:56 PM) also, what a basketball game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:21 PM) 4 point game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:21 PM) maybe the pacers are that good
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:36 AM) I said that his time last year, he was the favorite. I misspoke. He was 3rd or 4th. He certainly wasn't "not even in the 2nd tier" like you claimed
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:36 AM) Take your medicine Matty
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:36 AM) Maybe you should watch more college football instead of talking about watching college football
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:46 AM) No he wasn't 3rd or 4th
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:47 AM) He was the 4th favorite in vegas, making him no where near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:47 AM) Barkley had 3/2 odds, Geno was 9-1
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:48 AM) It's whatever
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:50 AM) Manish leaving jets beat
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:51 AM) About time
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) Was he "not even in the 2nd tier"? No. STFU
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:25 AM) Was he the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:26 AM) Or even close to the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:27 AM) Nice Manish leaving? Good shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 11:43 AM) SHJ, your boy EJ leads a very sad life
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:57 AM) haha why do you say that
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:03 PM) I'm friends with SHJ on Facebook and I replied "TEH KNICKS" then EJ recognized my name and started commenting saying shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:04 PM) He then goes "yeah and f*** the Knicks" I wanted to tell him he doesn't know what that joke is because he's banned
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 12:05 PM) haha
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 12:05 PM) what a dick
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

I'm curious as to what everyone thinks about our running back situation.

It seems like Greene is gonna get the start next year.

I really like Bilal Powell. I like the little that I saw from him in the preseason even though our line was horrendous, he looked very powerful. He also looked deceptively fast. He caught out the backfield a few times and I liked his burst.

We haven't had a big sample from him so maybe some of you guys know a little more about his talent. I honestly felt the only reason he wasn't in the lineup over Joe McKnight is because McKnight plays special teams. I think he's an all around better running back than McKnight.

So with that said, do we bring someone else in or do we work with what we have?
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:09 PM

He may have done well in the preseason, but from the - admittedly few - touches he got in the regular season Powell didn't do much. Opinion is mixed here on Greene and if the front office feel RB is a need then Powell will likely be buried on the depth chart again next season. The position isn't exactly the biggest priority though so if LT leaves/retires, Bilal could get a better opportunity to show what he can do.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:31 PM

No idea what to think, need to see more.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:58 PM

i think powell looks slow and weak personally. i wasn't expecting much and i still was disappointed. greene had a solid year. 1000+ yards higher then a 4.1 YPC behind a bad o-line. Mcnknight looks shifty and seeems like he'll fill the 3rd down back roll nicely. powell won't see any time unless one RB goes down
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

I think Greene is about as good of a back as you can get for a downhill, no receiving required offense. McKnight is a athletic counterpoint that will be useful in other packages. We need a second power back, and Powell might be that. Miami got pretty decent production out of Bush and Thomas, who are fairly similar in many ways to what Sparano has here.
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Exterminate all rational thought, that is the conclusion I have come to
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 05:50 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 07 February 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

No idea what to think, need to see more.

Here's something to think about. The Giants won the Super Bowl with running backs that are okay - no great one in the group. They beat the Patriots who had even less. The Packers last year certainly didn't have great backs nor did the Steelers. The Saints don't exactly have killer backs either. So I think we can say with a fair degree of confidence, we have the backs to win a Super Bowl. Open holes and they will bring it.

It's the offensive line that is crucial.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 06:28 PM

Greene is a back up.
McKnight is more of a situational, scat back/Wr.
Bilal? Just need to see more.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

View Postchocomag, on 07 February 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

Here's something to think about. The Giants won the Super Bowl with running backs that are okay - no great one in the group. They beat the Patriots who had even less. The Packers last year certainly didn't have great backs nor did the Steelers. The Saints don't exactly have killer backs either. So I think we can say with a fair degree of confidence, we have the backs to win a Super Bowl. Open holes and they will bring it.

It's the offensive line that is crucial.


I agree 100% greene averaged 5YPC as a backup and TJ 4.5 cause our o-line was dominating
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View PostS-Dubb, on 07 February 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

Greene is a back up.
McKnight is more of a situational, scat back/Wr.
Bilal? Just need to see more.


I think greene was a solid starter. wasn't great but our o-line didn't play well at all. he still had 1000 yards and higher then a 4YPC and didn't get hurt. thats basically your average starter. can we get a better back? sure but its not worth it. as pointed out before when was the last time a team with a great RB won anything? barry sanders, adrian peterson, chris johnson etc. the last 2 i can think of is faulk with the rams and lewis with the ravens since 2000. the other 8 or so winners didn't have good RBs at all
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 12:49 AM

View Postchocomag, on 07 February 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Here's something to think about. The Giants won the Super Bowl with running backs that are okay - no great one in the group. They beat the Patriots who had even less. The Packers last year certainly didn't have great backs nor did the Steelers. The Saints don't exactly have killer backs either. So I think we can say with a fair degree of confidence, we have the backs to win a Super Bowl. Open holes and they will bring it.

It's the offensive line that is crucial.

Yes but the Giants have a great quarterback. The Jets do not. The Giants can afford to have their running game simply be complimentary to the passing game since the offense literally runs through Manning now.

When Powell had his opportunities in the regular season he was unspectacular to say the least, particularly against Denver. I was not impressed and am left to believe that the Jets will need to draft a running back to compliment Greene. And I don't want to hear about McKnight. He is not as good of a runner as Leon Washington and should just be relegated to kick returner and maybe third down back.
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