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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Poll: Is he the next???? (12 member(s) have cast votes)

Is he the next????

  1. Vick/Newton (7 votes [58.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

  2. Young/Akili Smith (5 votes [41.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:21 PM

Lets take a vote
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:05 PM

I think he's going to be something better then Vick or Newton.

Picture this. A scrambling QB with 4.4 speed with pin point accuracy. Vick is nice but he's always been an awful passer, Newton has showed some flashes but I don't think he possesses the accuracy RG3 has.

He might come in and revolutionize the position. Like something out of a video game. He just might.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:01 PM

He won't be Vick, because he is more accurate and has character.

He won't be Newton because he is going to because we don't know what Newton is.

He won't be Young because he has character.

He won't be Smith cause Smith was washed up fast, etc, etc.

If he goes to the Brown's I can assume he won't do shit.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:07 PM

I like RG3, think he'll be good.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:56 PM

I think he'll be what Kordell Stewart was suppose to be. A guy that can throw the shit out of the ball and has the speed to get the corner.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:01 AM

Meh.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:13 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 27 February 2012 - 06:01 AM, said:

Meh.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:17 AM

Deadlock vote

Who will break it open??


I agree with the meh comment
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:49 AM

I don't know. I get a good feeling about this guy. I think he's going to be special.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:08 AM

Can't stand these Vick and Newton comparisons. Racial comparisons are always so stupidily easy to make.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:20 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 February 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

Can't stand these Vick and Newton comparisons. Racial comparisons are always so stupidily easy to make.


Whether you choose to accept it or not is up to you. They exist. Everyone thinks it, everyone acts accordingly. You don't find to many whiteboys that run 4.4's and play QB, just like you don't see many black pocket passers. The stereotypes exist and they will never go away. With time? sure... but not now.

So yes the Randall Cunningham's, Micheal Vicks and Cam Newtons are thought of differently. It's common knowledge. Black people will look to him as some sort of "savior" just so we can shed the stigma of what exists in the modern game about African Americans and the QB position.

With that said. Rg3 could revolutionize the position. Why? because he does possess 4.4 40 speed but one thing we haven't seen yet is a dynamic athletic QB master the fine art of "pocket passing" and "elusive scramble ability".

I guess Aaron Rodgers is close.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:08 AM

I get that these comparisons 'will exist' but they're wrong.

It's because 3/4 of the people comparing him to Mike Vick or Cam Newton have never seen Griffin play.

He's nothing like those guys. Speed wise, yeah sure he's comparable to Vick. That's where it ends though.

And he's nothing like Newton.

To mention Aaron Rodgers and not Steve Young is silly talk. RG3 has more Steve Young in him than any QB I can come up with, IMO.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:44 AM

I tried to find the quote I like where Jim Brown is asked about Doug WIlliams winning the SB with the Redskins, what it means to have a black QB win one and he says Williams didn't do it for black people, he did it to get a paycheck. Anyway, I couldn't find it.

What'll be nice is when black QBs aren't the one who might make it because they run a faster 40 time than the last guy that came out.

What amazes me is that you hear more about the progress of black coaches. People should start looking into why teams High Schools never see a black kid that isn't that fast and try him out at QB, or why the ones that do don't move up into college. I don't believe that there aren't some black kids out there that couldn't play the position if they weren't stuck in the lineup as backup safties just because they didn't run a 4.5 forty.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

RG3 > Andrew Luck

If both have healthy careers, RG3 will prove he is better.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:53 PM

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 11:39 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 01 March 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

Whether you choose to accept it or not is up to you. They exist. Everyone thinks it, everyone acts accordingly. You don't find to many whiteboys that run 4.4's and play QB, just like you don't see many black pocket passers. The stereotypes exist and they will never go away. With time? sure... but not now.

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With that said. Rg3 could revolutionize the position. Why? because he does possess 4.4 40 speed but one thing we haven't seen yet is a dynamic athletic QB master the fine art of "pocket passing" and "elusive scramble ability".

I guess Aaron Rodgers is close.


Surely Donovan McNabb in his prime came close to that?
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:24 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 02 March 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

Surely Donovan McNabb in his prime came close to that?


Yeah, I definitely think he did. He was a really great pocket passer. If Freeman rebounds this year I think he too has the potential to be a good pocket passer.
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