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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Vlad Dookass To Compete For The Starting Job R.I.P Sanchez

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:02 AM

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There's a report from Jake Steinberg that LG/RG/RT Vlad Ducasse has been told that he will exclusively practice and compete for the right tackle position.


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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:41 AM

This is a good thing. The Jets couldn't figure out what to do with him so they had him practice LG, RG and RT. Now that they picked a spot for him, lets see if he can use the offseason and develop into something.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:53 AM

So McElroy will be starting by week 3?
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:30 AM

sadly he's probably the only player in the league that can't beat out wayne hunter for that job
Get it done MT
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:06 AM

I am guessing that Vlad was one of the guys that thought the last playbook was too complicated. This is a make or break year for Ducasse, if he doesn't show something then cut him. But I'd be surprised if the Jets go into camp with just Hunter and Ducasse as their RTs.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:38 PM

Sanchez might want to start writing his will.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:40 PM

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I am guessing that Vlad was one of the guys that thought the last playbook was too complicated. This is a make or break year for Ducasse, if he doesn't show something then cut him. But I'd be surprised if the Jets go into camp with just Hunter and Ducasse as their RTs.


i'd take an UDFA rookie to play RT over vlad and hunter right now
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 05:34 PM

You guys are too quick to write someone off. He was drafted as a "project", then instead of learning one position, was shuffled between three... without the benefit of a training camp. Lets see how he does now that he's got one assignment and a few months to put it together.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

He's a guard, not a tackle.

No faith he'll ever start there.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:36 PM

They are both revolving doors at tackle. The only position they should be competing for is practice squad.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:02 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 28 February 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

sadly he's probably the only player in the league that can't beat out wayne hunter for that job


I think that unfortunately you're right. Hunter is not good. I mean of course some plays he actually made his blocks, but our line broke down most often from the RT position.

Vlad I think could be OK, but he has to start taking this shit more seriously. And maybe with a new O Line coach he'll get a fire under his ass
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:07 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 February 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

You guys are too quick to write someone off. He was drafted as a "project", then instead of learning one position, was shuffled between three... without the benefit of a training camp. Lets see how he does now that he's got one assignment and a few months to put it together.

I haven't completely written him off yet, but I wouldn't go into the season thinking hes the guy. He has to show something in training camp and preseason games. I don't think the Jets will go into the season with just Hunter and Vlad, they will bring someone in whether it be a FA or draft a rookie.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 03:58 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 29 February 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

I haven't completely written him off yet, but I wouldn't go into the season thinking hes the guy. He has to show something in training camp and preseason games. I don't think the Jets will go into the season with just Hunter and Vlad, they will bring someone in whether it be a FA or draft a rookie.

Yeah Im writing him off. When players who dont even make the teams in preseason puch Vlad back like he wieghs 50 pounds I write him off.

He has yet to show that he isnt one of the greatest Jets draft flops ever. Unless he has done total 1080 change Im not expecting anything from him. He makes Wayne Hunter seem like an all pro.

Maybe the fo has a plan...put Ducasse and Hunter in....get Sanchez destroyed...start other prospects and hope they luck into a backup that turns out to be great like Brady did for the Pats.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:27 PM

He just doesn't have the foot quickness to play tackle. He just continually gets beat. He could play guard tho where he can have some more help on the inside but at tackle your on an island more often then not. That's not who you want out there protecting your franchise QB.

Neither is Wayne Hunter.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

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He just doesn't have the foot quickness to play tackle. He just continually gets beat. He could play guard tho where he can have some more help on the inside but at tackle your on an island more often then not. That's not who you want out there protecting your franchise QB.

Neither is Wayne Hunter.


You know, a lot of times you say shit on here that makes me wonder if you drink a gallon of paint for breakfast. Ducasse's problem is his TECHNIQUE. His "foot quickness" is actually what got him a 2nd round grade. He ran a 4.7 20 yard drill... considering that Clay Matthews ran a 4.2, I think Ducasse "foot quicknes" isn't an issue. Furthermore, if you look at the landscape of the NFL, most RTs aren't exactly circus bears. An RT is a behemoth who needs to stay in front of his guy. Ducasse has the size and the physical attributes, but his technique is shit. If we can somehow correct that, he'll be a solid starter.
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