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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) Catch the f***ing ball nelson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) it all comes down to this
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) David ha ha Nelson is a bum
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) why didn't they talk about Kyle Fuler when torched for 51 yards by Salas?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Bullshit
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) f***
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How the f*** is that not interference
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) That's flag 101 never looking back and pushing the WR
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Never looked for the ball for a second
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) Fuck this game fuck the refs fuck this team fuck the season. I'm over this shit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) Oh look the refs gave the Jets another timeout. A timeout the Jets didn't even have. SMDH
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
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8 Subplots That Could Change The Nfl

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:14 PM

http://m.nfl.com/new...dscape-in-2012/

Miami overtaking the Jets? Hmmm......
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:39 PM

They have either swept or split with us in each of our 3 seasons under rex. The jets were not a good team last year and had Miami went with Moore sooner rather than later soprano probably still has a head coaching job. Admit it or not, the dolphins are right about where we are talent wise with Matt Moore. If they nab manning or get a Flynn that plays like he did in green bay they easily pass us. I say this with the assumption that Sanchez stays average and doesn't become a qb that can carry his teams offense on his back.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:26 PM

They might, especially if they get Manning. But I expect they will sign Matt Flynn since their new HC was the Packers OC. They have a WR that is a beast when he wants to be in Brandon Marshall, Reggie Bush was great for them last year, their OL has talent with Jake Long and Mike Pouncey. Their defense has talent on it, though I think they will drop off with Mike Nolan leaving them.

One thing is that Sparano kept them focused and prepared, he kept them fighting all year. I think our offense should be more disciplined. A lot will be determined by how our offseason goes and how the rest of the AFC east offseason goes. I think the Jets come in more humbled and hungry this year.

I have no idea how the Dolphins new HC is going to do, we will have to wait and see.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:36 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.


Shotty didn't have much of a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).
But yea...Like it or not, the dolphins have a solid team. Whats wrong with their O-line unless I'm missing something? Carrey, pouncey, long, columbo, incognito doesn't seem to shabby to me. I hate the dolphins as much as the next jets fan does, but if they snag a top 5-10 QB, and can pick up some players to contribute in this years draft, the dolphins are a player in the AFC.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:54 AM

View Postextmenace, on 29 February 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

Shotty didn't have much of a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).


I'm not going to turn this into a thesis on how horrible Schotty was, but I will say that his reputation for his "offensive mind" was totally unwarranted. The Jets was his first job outside his father's shadow. He lasted 6 mediocre years and was forced out. Here's the crux of it: every single QB that he has coached ended up having a career year the year after they left his system. Is that a coincidence?


View Postextmenace, on 29 February 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

But yea...Like it or not, the dolphins have a solid team. Whats wrong with their O-line unless I'm missing something? Carrey, pouncey, long, columbo, incognito doesn't seem to shabby to me. I hate the dolphins as much as the next jets fan does, but if they snag a top 5-10 QB, and can pick up some players to contribute in this years draft, the dolphins are a player in the AFC.


Carrey probably sticks out in your mind because he's a former first rounder, but ask any Fin fan and they'll tell you that he shouldn't be starting. Columbo is ancient and Incognito is a poor man's Rob Turner. Pouncey is okay, but he's not as good as his brother. Long is an All Pro. They got 2 holes, 1 meh and 2 starters. They will likely draft OL in the 1st 2 rounds.

Any team that adds a Top 10 QB is expected to be better than before. The problem is, adding that Top 10 QB. Who do you think is going to be Top 10? Matt Flynn? We've seen plenty of 2nd string QBs perform amazingly in mop up duties. There's absolutely no guarantee that he'll be any better than J Feeley... the last 2nd stringer the Fins gambled on. Peyton is an enigma, no one knows what he has left... however, the only team he's ever played for is pimping him out hardcore. The fact that they'd rather go into the season with a complete questionmark (a rookie) than even gamble that Peyton has anything left lets me know that he's far less than 100%.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:13 AM

View Postextmenace, on 29 February 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

Shotty didn't have much of

a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).


Herm didn't have much trouble finding a new job did he? Mangini didn't have much trouble finding a new job...Mora Jr gets all sorts of jobs. Not really much of an argument.

As to Schotty, even if he goes to the Rams and turns them into an elite offense, it won't change the bad job he did here. He was bad at play design and calling before and during Sanchez.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:42 AM

View PostA1elbow, on 29 February 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

Herm didn't have much trouble finding a new job did he? Mangini didn't have much trouble finding a new job...Mora Jr gets all sorts of jobs. Not really much of an argument.

As to Schotty, even if he goes to the Rams and turns them into an elite offense, it won't change the bad job he did here. He was bad at play design and calling before and during Sanchez.


exactly. look at bellochekc. he did a bad job in cleveland. that didn't change becuase he's done so well in NE
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:47 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.


Every player in the league is one hit away from retirement.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:48 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 29 February 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Every player in the league is one hit away from retirement.


Dont turns this into semantics. You know what I mean.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 February 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Dont turns this into semantics. You know what I mean.


From all reports his neck is 100% healthy now, its not about his healthy now its about his performance level.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 29 February 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

From all reports his neck is 100% healthy now, its not about his healthy now its about his performance level.


You're never 100% after you have your verterbrae fused. The fact that there was nerve damage and he's trying to regain his arm strength is a giant red flag.
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