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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
santana Icon : (Today, 10:14 AM) http://youtu.be/2X0H709cJkA
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:14 PM

http://m.nfl.com/new...dscape-in-2012/

Miami overtaking the Jets? Hmmm......
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:39 PM

They have either swept or split with us in each of our 3 seasons under rex. The jets were not a good team last year and had Miami went with Moore sooner rather than later soprano probably still has a head coaching job. Admit it or not, the dolphins are right about where we are talent wise with Matt Moore. If they nab manning or get a Flynn that plays like he did in green bay they easily pass us. I say this with the assumption that Sanchez stays average and doesn't become a qb that can carry his teams offense on his back.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:26 PM

They might, especially if they get Manning. But I expect they will sign Matt Flynn since their new HC was the Packers OC. They have a WR that is a beast when he wants to be in Brandon Marshall, Reggie Bush was great for them last year, their OL has talent with Jake Long and Mike Pouncey. Their defense has talent on it, though I think they will drop off with Mike Nolan leaving them.

One thing is that Sparano kept them focused and prepared, he kept them fighting all year. I think our offense should be more disciplined. A lot will be determined by how our offseason goes and how the rest of the AFC east offseason goes. I think the Jets come in more humbled and hungry this year.

I have no idea how the Dolphins new HC is going to do, we will have to wait and see.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:36 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.


Shotty didn't have much of a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).
But yea...Like it or not, the dolphins have a solid team. Whats wrong with their O-line unless I'm missing something? Carrey, pouncey, long, columbo, incognito doesn't seem to shabby to me. I hate the dolphins as much as the next jets fan does, but if they snag a top 5-10 QB, and can pick up some players to contribute in this years draft, the dolphins are a player in the AFC.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:54 AM

View Postextmenace, on 29 February 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

Shotty didn't have much of a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).


I'm not going to turn this into a thesis on how horrible Schotty was, but I will say that his reputation for his "offensive mind" was totally unwarranted. The Jets was his first job outside his father's shadow. He lasted 6 mediocre years and was forced out. Here's the crux of it: every single QB that he has coached ended up having a career year the year after they left his system. Is that a coincidence?


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But yea...Like it or not, the dolphins have a solid team. Whats wrong with their O-line unless I'm missing something? Carrey, pouncey, long, columbo, incognito doesn't seem to shabby to me. I hate the dolphins as much as the next jets fan does, but if they snag a top 5-10 QB, and can pick up some players to contribute in this years draft, the dolphins are a player in the AFC.


Carrey probably sticks out in your mind because he's a former first rounder, but ask any Fin fan and they'll tell you that he shouldn't be starting. Columbo is ancient and Incognito is a poor man's Rob Turner. Pouncey is okay, but he's not as good as his brother. Long is an All Pro. They got 2 holes, 1 meh and 2 starters. They will likely draft OL in the 1st 2 rounds.

Any team that adds a Top 10 QB is expected to be better than before. The problem is, adding that Top 10 QB. Who do you think is going to be Top 10? Matt Flynn? We've seen plenty of 2nd string QBs perform amazingly in mop up duties. There's absolutely no guarantee that he'll be any better than J Feeley... the last 2nd stringer the Fins gambled on. Peyton is an enigma, no one knows what he has left... however, the only team he's ever played for is pimping him out hardcore. The fact that they'd rather go into the season with a complete questionmark (a rookie) than even gamble that Peyton has anything left lets me know that he's far less than 100%.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:13 AM

View Postextmenace, on 29 February 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

Shotty didn't have much of

a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).


Herm didn't have much trouble finding a new job did he? Mangini didn't have much trouble finding a new job...Mora Jr gets all sorts of jobs. Not really much of an argument.

As to Schotty, even if he goes to the Rams and turns them into an elite offense, it won't change the bad job he did here. He was bad at play design and calling before and during Sanchez.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:42 AM

View PostA1elbow, on 29 February 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

Herm didn't have much trouble finding a new job did he? Mangini didn't have much trouble finding a new job...Mora Jr gets all sorts of jobs. Not really much of an argument.

As to Schotty, even if he goes to the Rams and turns them into an elite offense, it won't change the bad job he did here. He was bad at play design and calling before and during Sanchez.


exactly. look at bellochekc. he did a bad job in cleveland. that didn't change becuase he's done so well in NE
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:47 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.


Every player in the league is one hit away from retirement.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:48 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 29 February 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Every player in the league is one hit away from retirement.


Dont turns this into semantics. You know what I mean.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 February 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Dont turns this into semantics. You know what I mean.


From all reports his neck is 100% healthy now, its not about his healthy now its about his performance level.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 29 February 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

From all reports his neck is 100% healthy now, its not about his healthy now its about his performance level.


You're never 100% after you have your verterbrae fused. The fact that there was nerve damage and he's trying to regain his arm strength is a giant red flag.
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