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ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) Look at all the first round top qb draft pick busts over the years. Even most of the analysts arent sure about any of the qbs this year
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I can not believe u could post such a thing about THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'll be more excited if Idzik was fired. I'm interested to see who our next HC is too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:19 PM) Bill cowher and THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT in the Giants rams game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT FIGHT TIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) !!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Leaf , Russell, Harrington,Young, Carr....... All picked with the first 3 picks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:22 PM) Its all hit of miss
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:24 PM) Yeah and thats what Im saying. So you changed your tune now?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) No one believes any of the qbs coming out this year is NFL ready
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) Talk about all the recent QBs that were taken and have done well
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) not true, some believe in the QBs this year. Some don't.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) NO
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) SUCK FOR THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:27 PM) I've seen tweets from NFL people that think Winston's skills are NFL ready. Has maturity issues though
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:27 PM) Yeah but most of those years there more qbs that were thought to be NFL ready. The last few years hasnt been that way
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) Its hard to go against Winston
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) I rather have a high pick regardless, even if you trade back, it's valuable.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) the guy has not lost a game in 2 years as a starter
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) Trade with the redskins
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Maybe they will give us 3 1st round pikcs
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) picks
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Heck I think Maniel will be a huge bust. I actually hope he is because he was a major dickhead in college acting like he was the next Brady or Peyton Manning
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) I'm no QB expert, but I think Winston shows a lot of ability to be a franchise QB. Guy has amazing pocket presence for a college QB and when the game is on the line he always delivers. He is very talented as well.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Manziel
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:32 PM) I didnt see any of his so I cant say. I usually only watch Pac 12 games
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:35 PM) My problem with Mariota is that he has accuracy issues. Look at the las time we picked a qb with Accuracy issues didnt work out that well
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:37 PM) And I wasn't really impressed with Sanchez looking much better this year. His accuracy is finally NFL average but once again like pretty much every year he has more turnovers than tds
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:38 PM) 12 passing tds 1 rushing td 10interceptions and 7 fumbles 4 of them lost so he has 13 tds and 14 turnovers total
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:39 PM) No chance of him taking Foles job
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 PM) though he might have a shot getting a job on a team that needs a td with his improved accuracy. He was better in the Redzone this year. best of his career. No tunovers in the redzone. The first time in his career
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 PM) meant needs a qb
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:43 PM) I wish we could keep harvin but he is definitely gone. No way the team is going to pay him what he wants with so many needs. Hope they pay Richardson though
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:46 PM) We need to upgrade almost the whole Oline and Mangold is getting old so we need to start looking for a center soon. he is still damn good at blocking but he never pulls like he used to on running plays
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:48 PM) Especially with him having to deal with that big bastard Wilfork twice a year.
santana Icon : (Today, 05:52 PM) Keenum played better than any jet qb this year
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:25 PM) Rams coming back 17 unanswered points 27-20 Giants
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:39 PM) Ok im going to say it
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:40 PM) ODB is the 3rd best WR in the NFL already
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:40 PM) Eagles eliminated from playoffs
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:40 PM) After Megatron and Dez
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 07:00 PM) We need fireman ed back
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8 Subplots That Could Change The Nfl

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:14 PM

http://m.nfl.com/new...dscape-in-2012/

Miami overtaking the Jets? Hmmm......
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:39 PM

They have either swept or split with us in each of our 3 seasons under rex. The jets were not a good team last year and had Miami went with Moore sooner rather than later soprano probably still has a head coaching job. Admit it or not, the dolphins are right about where we are talent wise with Matt Moore. If they nab manning or get a Flynn that plays like he did in green bay they easily pass us. I say this with the assumption that Sanchez stays average and doesn't become a qb that can carry his teams offense on his back.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:26 PM

They might, especially if they get Manning. But I expect they will sign Matt Flynn since their new HC was the Packers OC. They have a WR that is a beast when he wants to be in Brandon Marshall, Reggie Bush was great for them last year, their OL has talent with Jake Long and Mike Pouncey. Their defense has talent on it, though I think they will drop off with Mike Nolan leaving them.

One thing is that Sparano kept them focused and prepared, he kept them fighting all year. I think our offense should be more disciplined. A lot will be determined by how our offseason goes and how the rest of the AFC east offseason goes. I think the Jets come in more humbled and hungry this year.

I have no idea how the Dolphins new HC is going to do, we will have to wait and see.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:36 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.


Shotty didn't have much of a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).
But yea...Like it or not, the dolphins have a solid team. Whats wrong with their O-line unless I'm missing something? Carrey, pouncey, long, columbo, incognito doesn't seem to shabby to me. I hate the dolphins as much as the next jets fan does, but if they snag a top 5-10 QB, and can pick up some players to contribute in this years draft, the dolphins are a player in the AFC.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:54 AM

View Postextmenace, on 29 February 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

Shotty didn't have much of a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).


I'm not going to turn this into a thesis on how horrible Schotty was, but I will say that his reputation for his "offensive mind" was totally unwarranted. The Jets was his first job outside his father's shadow. He lasted 6 mediocre years and was forced out. Here's the crux of it: every single QB that he has coached ended up having a career year the year after they left his system. Is that a coincidence?


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But yea...Like it or not, the dolphins have a solid team. Whats wrong with their O-line unless I'm missing something? Carrey, pouncey, long, columbo, incognito doesn't seem to shabby to me. I hate the dolphins as much as the next jets fan does, but if they snag a top 5-10 QB, and can pick up some players to contribute in this years draft, the dolphins are a player in the AFC.


Carrey probably sticks out in your mind because he's a former first rounder, but ask any Fin fan and they'll tell you that he shouldn't be starting. Columbo is ancient and Incognito is a poor man's Rob Turner. Pouncey is okay, but he's not as good as his brother. Long is an All Pro. They got 2 holes, 1 meh and 2 starters. They will likely draft OL in the 1st 2 rounds.

Any team that adds a Top 10 QB is expected to be better than before. The problem is, adding that Top 10 QB. Who do you think is going to be Top 10? Matt Flynn? We've seen plenty of 2nd string QBs perform amazingly in mop up duties. There's absolutely no guarantee that he'll be any better than J Feeley... the last 2nd stringer the Fins gambled on. Peyton is an enigma, no one knows what he has left... however, the only team he's ever played for is pimping him out hardcore. The fact that they'd rather go into the season with a complete questionmark (a rookie) than even gamble that Peyton has anything left lets me know that he's far less than 100%.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:13 AM

View Postextmenace, on 29 February 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

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a problem finding a new job did he? Before the guy encountered sanchez the guy was considered one of the new bright minds in the sport. I agree that it was time for a change but this upcomming season will tell us who really was at fault for our offensive struggles (sanchez vs shotty).


Herm didn't have much trouble finding a new job did he? Mangini didn't have much trouble finding a new job...Mora Jr gets all sorts of jobs. Not really much of an argument.

As to Schotty, even if he goes to the Rams and turns them into an elite offense, it won't change the bad job he did here. He was bad at play design and calling before and during Sanchez.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:42 AM

View PostA1elbow, on 29 February 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

Herm didn't have much trouble finding a new job did he? Mangini didn't have much trouble finding a new job...Mora Jr gets all sorts of jobs. Not really much of an argument.

As to Schotty, even if he goes to the Rams and turns them into an elite offense, it won't change the bad job he did here. He was bad at play design and calling before and during Sanchez.


exactly. look at bellochekc. he did a bad job in cleveland. that didn't change becuase he's done so well in NE
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:47 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 February 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

I think this is hilarious.

A Jets team imploaded, gave up on their OC, WRs and the QB were feuding with each other... and the Jets STILL finished 8-8. Now Miami is going to jump us in the division? How? Is Reggie Bush going to stay another career year? How are they going to fix their OL (which has more holes than ours)? They're switching to the 4-3 and it will take them at least 2 years to reshuffle the front 7. Oh yea... they're getting Matt Flynn or Peyton Manning. Matt Flynn had a great 2 games. I'm sorry but I'm not sold. Peyton is one hit away from retirement and may not be able to throw left. All this and we haven't touched on the subject that getting rid of Schotty is like having an extra Top 5 pick for the offense.


Every player in the league is one hit away from retirement.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:48 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 29 February 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Every player in the league is one hit away from retirement.


Dont turns this into semantics. You know what I mean.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 February 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Dont turns this into semantics. You know what I mean.


From all reports his neck is 100% healthy now, its not about his healthy now its about his performance level.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 29 February 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

From all reports his neck is 100% healthy now, its not about his healthy now its about his performance level.


You're never 100% after you have your verterbrae fused. The fact that there was nerve damage and he's trying to regain his arm strength is a giant red flag.
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