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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:05 AM

16-Melvin Ingram OLB/DE South Carolina
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47-Kelechi Osemele OT/OG Iowa ST.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 06:04 PM

Osmele could slot in at RT and be a solid starter but I think he has All-Pro guard written all over him.

Draftcountdown is very solid though, he does a nice job.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:21 PM

Love it. If that's our draft, I'm rocking out with my cock out.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:36 PM

Seriously, if this is our draft I'll be stoked.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:57 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 06 March 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

Seriously, if this is our draft I'll be stoked.



It's 2 rounds, not 'our draft'

Seriously though, Osemele do you like him at T or G more?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:45 AM

This team needs some serious depth...I think Mike T needs to pull a 2009 Browns draft move and trade down multiple times.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:12 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 07 March 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

It's 2 rounds, not 'our draft'

Seriously though, Osemele do you like him at T or G more?


From everything I've read, he sounds like he could be an All Pro G someday. I'm the only on in the the "Ducasse will ultimately work out" camp so I'd stick him at G once Moore retires.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:16 AM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 07 March 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

This team needs some serious depth...I think Mike T needs to pull a 2009 Browns draft move and trade down multiple times.


I definitely think that this draft is lopsided in the sense that there's tremendous value in pick 1-10, then it thins out again until 40-60. I definitely want the Jets to trade out of 16 UNLESS Ingram magically falls to us. He's Top 10 talent and I have a hard time seeing how he's going to get passed the Jags and the Bills but whatever. If he's not there at 16, no other player is really worth the grade. I hope we can find a trading partner (maybe a team that wants to take a QB as I see Tannehill and that Weeden both going in the 1st) get out of the 1st all together. If we can pick up an extra 2 2nds and a 3rd, we'll set this team up lovely for the next half decade.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:44 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 07 March 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

From everything I've read, he sounds like he could be an All Pro G someday. I'm the only on in the the "Ducasse will ultimately work out" camp so I'd stick him at G once Moore retires.


Are you saying he doesn't play until Moore retires or he slots in at RT until then?

And I think Ducasse won't pan out either, but I do think he can be a starting guard at some point in this league.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:28 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 07 March 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Are you saying he doesn't play until Moore retires or he slots in at RT until then?

And I think Ducasse won't pan out either, but I do think he can be a starting guard at some point in this league.


That's a loaded question Matty Boy. We're going to have to have an open competition at RT. I think we will also sign a vet FA. I don't think you can fully evaluate 4 players by giving them equal reps. So FA vet, Ducasse and Hunter will fight it out for RT. I think Osemele is best served as a backup to Moore in that instance.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 06:03 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 07 March 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

That's a loaded question Matty Boy. We're going to have to have an open competition at RT. I think we will also sign a vet FA. I don't think you can fully evaluate 4 players by giving them equal reps. So FA vet, Ducasse and Hunter will fight it out for RT. I think Osemele is best served as a backup to Moore in that instance.


So we're using a second round pick on a backup Guard?

That's my problem with it.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:05 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 March 2012 - 06:03 AM, said:

So we're using a second round pick on a backup Guard?

That's my problem with it.


That's assuming we sign a vet RT. What if we don't?
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:07 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 08 March 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

That's assuming we sign a vet RT. What if we don't?


My question was to you about him... you have him projected to be our backup G, but we're picking him 2nd. That's all.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:50 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 March 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

My question was to you about him... you have him projected to be our backup G, but we're picking him 2nd. That's all.


I don't mind that at all since OL is a definite need. I'm HOPING we can get the RT spot sorted out, but Moore is long in the tooth as well. If we draft a guy and he ends up sitting a year, that's fine. We saw what happens when you don't have enough OL this season, I'd rather have too much. He's probably going to be the BPA when its our turn on the clock... are we really not going to draft him because we still have Moore and aren't totally giving up on Ducasse and Hunter? It's a no brainer to me.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:01 AM

Oh I'm not saying we shouldn't draft him.

I think day one he can start at RT for us and be solid. Just think he could be an All-World OG as well.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:14 AM

I was thinkin Baron may be there at 47 since there have been many talks about him sliding.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:57 PM

View PostarizonaJETSfan, on 10 March 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

I was thinkin Baron may be there at 47 since there have been many talks about him sliding.

Don't see that happening, for some reason I don't think he gets past the Patriots round 1.
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