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azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
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Nelson Vs Landry Comparison

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:41 PM

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The Jets are targeting two safeties in free agency -- LaRon Landry and Reggie Nelson, both of whom were first-round picks in 2007. Ideally, you'd like to have both because their skill sets are complementary, but it's unclear if they have enough salary-cap room to make that happen.

One thing to remember: Landry, plagued by Achilles-tendon issues, is said to be willing to take a one-year deal to prove himself healthy, hoping for a big free-agent score next year. Something to ponder.

Anyway, here's a statistical look at the two safeties, courtesy of the web site Pro Football Focus. Judging from the numbers, it's pretty clear that Nelson is better in coverage and Landry is a better run enforcer around the line of scrimmage. The Jets use a lot of single-high safety looks, which might not be a good thing for Landry. But if you want a "box" safety, Landry gets the edge.

LANDRY (513 total snaps):

Pass coverage
Time targeted/Completions -- 22/15
Completion pct. -- 71.4
Yards -- 159 yards
Yards after catch -- 99
TDs allowed -- 1
Interceptions -- 0
Passes defensed --0
Passer rating -- 109.0

Run defense
Tackles -- 43
Stops* -- 22
Missed tackles -- 5

Blitzing
QB sacks --2
QB hits/pressures -- 8

NELSON (1,049 snaps):

Pass coverage
Times targeted/completions -- 33/21
Completion pct. -- 63.6
Yards -- 275
Yards after catch -- 74
Interceptions -- 4
Passes defensed -- 4
Touchdowns -- 2
Passer rating -- 70.5

Run defense
Tackles -- 64
Stops* -- 24
Missed tackles -- 8

Blitzing
QB sacks -- 2
QB hits/pressures -- 7

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:07 PM

Where did you get this from bro?
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

Rich Cimini posted it

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:46 PM

Great stuff thanks 0099
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

Nice find. id def say this shows Landry is a liability in pass coverage. in half the snaps he gave up more yac than nelson, and it looks like qbs have their way with him. 71 completion %? ew.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:32 PM

View PostClemens11, on 17 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Nice find. id def say this shows Landry is a liability in pass coverage. in half the snaps he gave up more yac than nelson, and it looks like qbs have their way with him. 71 completion %? ew.


Yea also 0 Int's. Most definitely a strong safety. Rex would likely use a lot of LB-Hybrid with Landry. One thing I do like about Rex is he rarely puts someone out of their comfort zone. Puts them in places to be successful.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:00 PM

View PostClemens11, on 17 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Nice find. id def say this shows Landry is a liability in pass coverage. in half the snaps he gave up more yac than nelson, and it looks like qbs have their way with him. 71 completion %? ew.


Didn't he have a lingering achilles injury that eventually forced him to the IR?
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:50 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 March 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

Didn't he have a lingering achilles injury that eventually forced him to the IR?



Yea, which he STILL has. he ignored multiple doctors who all said to get surgery. the guy is a moron. I dont want him. He gets burned, he never properly fixed his injury so who knows how it healed. hes a musclehead who id question if he could pass a drug test, and he might as well be a lb.

I dont see what we get out of signing him besides another body at the safety position to put a name in for the depth chart. Draft someone, bring back Leonhard, we will be fine. Id rather just deal with Erik Smith at this point over Landry. Leonhard keeps our coverages in line, draft a rangy free safety to compliment and lets start righting the ship.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:10 AM

View PostClemens11, on 18 March 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

Yea, which he STILL has. he ignored multiple doctors who all said to get surgery. the guy is a moron. I dont want him. He gets burned, he never properly fixed his injury so who knows how it healed. hes a musclehead who id question if he could pass a drug test, and he might as well be a lb.

I dont see what we get out of signing him besides another body at the safety position to put a name in for the depth chart. Draft someone, bring back Leonhard, we will be fine. Id rather just deal with Erik Smith at this point over Landry. Leonhard keeps our coverages in line, draft a rangy free safety to compliment and lets start righting the ship.


Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!!!!!!!!! I'm in the same camp as you. Landry is not an end all be all BUT... dealing with Smitty another year? No.

Supposedly Landry is healthy. I'm sure he'll undergo a crazy physical when he signs. I'm sure that he's going to work out for team as well. He's saying that he'll take a 1 year deal to prove he's healthy. Is he? I don't know. I do know that sometimes surgery isn't the only remedy. It wasn't a ruptured achilles, and that's the extent of the injury that I know. We'll see what happens but ERIC SMITH AS PLAN A IS NO PLAN AT ALL.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:37 AM

Which is why Landry is willing to take a 1 yr deal to prove hes healthy. He went a different route that surgery for his achilles, he did platelet rich plasma treatment.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 11:47 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 March 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!!!!!!!!! I'm in the same camp as you. Landry is not an end all be all BUT... dealing with Smitty another year? No.

Supposedly Landry is healthy. I'm sure he'll undergo a crazy physical when he signs. I'm sure that he's going to work out for team as well. He's saying that he'll take a 1 year deal to prove he's healthy. Is he? I don't know. I do know that sometimes surgery isn't the only remedy. It wasn't a ruptured achilles, and that's the extent of the injury that I know. We'll see what happens but ERIC SMITH AS PLAN A IS NO PLAN AT ALL.


A healthy smith is just as good as a weakened Landry. plus we have smith locked up for another 2 years if i remember correctly so unless we wanna take a cap hit, even as little as it may be, we are stuck with him anyway.



Sorry, I am not much of a gambling man and Landry has too many red flags. he isnt worth vet minimum as a safety in my opinion.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:41 PM

I would take either one. We just signed Landry so i'm good. Our safeties are horrible. Anyone would be an upgrade
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