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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (31 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (31 August 2014 - 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
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azjetfan Icon : (31 August 2014 - 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (31 August 2014 - 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (31 August 2014 - 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (31 August 2014 - 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:17 PM) The Jets are fucked at CB, signing some bums now. We need Milliner to get healthy
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Nelson Vs Landry Comparison

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:41 PM

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The Jets are targeting two safeties in free agency -- LaRon Landry and Reggie Nelson, both of whom were first-round picks in 2007. Ideally, you'd like to have both because their skill sets are complementary, but it's unclear if they have enough salary-cap room to make that happen.

One thing to remember: Landry, plagued by Achilles-tendon issues, is said to be willing to take a one-year deal to prove himself healthy, hoping for a big free-agent score next year. Something to ponder.

Anyway, here's a statistical look at the two safeties, courtesy of the web site Pro Football Focus. Judging from the numbers, it's pretty clear that Nelson is better in coverage and Landry is a better run enforcer around the line of scrimmage. The Jets use a lot of single-high safety looks, which might not be a good thing for Landry. But if you want a "box" safety, Landry gets the edge.

LANDRY (513 total snaps):

Pass coverage
Time targeted/Completions -- 22/15
Completion pct. -- 71.4
Yards -- 159 yards
Yards after catch -- 99
TDs allowed -- 1
Interceptions -- 0
Passes defensed --0
Passer rating -- 109.0

Run defense
Tackles -- 43
Stops* -- 22
Missed tackles -- 5

Blitzing
QB sacks --2
QB hits/pressures -- 8

NELSON (1,049 snaps):

Pass coverage
Times targeted/completions -- 33/21
Completion pct. -- 63.6
Yards -- 275
Yards after catch -- 74
Interceptions -- 4
Passes defensed -- 4
Touchdowns -- 2
Passer rating -- 70.5

Run defense
Tackles -- 64
Stops* -- 24
Missed tackles -- 8

Blitzing
QB sacks -- 2
QB hits/pressures -- 7

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:07 PM

Where did you get this from bro?
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

Rich Cimini posted it

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:46 PM

Great stuff thanks 0099
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
"It's like going from Alcatraz to Dorney Park."

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

Nice find. id def say this shows Landry is a liability in pass coverage. in half the snaps he gave up more yac than nelson, and it looks like qbs have their way with him. 71 completion %? ew.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:32 PM

View PostClemens11, on 17 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Nice find. id def say this shows Landry is a liability in pass coverage. in half the snaps he gave up more yac than nelson, and it looks like qbs have their way with him. 71 completion %? ew.


Yea also 0 Int's. Most definitely a strong safety. Rex would likely use a lot of LB-Hybrid with Landry. One thing I do like about Rex is he rarely puts someone out of their comfort zone. Puts them in places to be successful.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:00 PM

View PostClemens11, on 17 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Nice find. id def say this shows Landry is a liability in pass coverage. in half the snaps he gave up more yac than nelson, and it looks like qbs have their way with him. 71 completion %? ew.


Didn't he have a lingering achilles injury that eventually forced him to the IR?
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:50 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 March 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

Didn't he have a lingering achilles injury that eventually forced him to the IR?



Yea, which he STILL has. he ignored multiple doctors who all said to get surgery. the guy is a moron. I dont want him. He gets burned, he never properly fixed his injury so who knows how it healed. hes a musclehead who id question if he could pass a drug test, and he might as well be a lb.

I dont see what we get out of signing him besides another body at the safety position to put a name in for the depth chart. Draft someone, bring back Leonhard, we will be fine. Id rather just deal with Erik Smith at this point over Landry. Leonhard keeps our coverages in line, draft a rangy free safety to compliment and lets start righting the ship.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:10 AM

View PostClemens11, on 18 March 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

Yea, which he STILL has. he ignored multiple doctors who all said to get surgery. the guy is a moron. I dont want him. He gets burned, he never properly fixed his injury so who knows how it healed. hes a musclehead who id question if he could pass a drug test, and he might as well be a lb.

I dont see what we get out of signing him besides another body at the safety position to put a name in for the depth chart. Draft someone, bring back Leonhard, we will be fine. Id rather just deal with Erik Smith at this point over Landry. Leonhard keeps our coverages in line, draft a rangy free safety to compliment and lets start righting the ship.


Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!!!!!!!!! I'm in the same camp as you. Landry is not an end all be all BUT... dealing with Smitty another year? No.

Supposedly Landry is healthy. I'm sure he'll undergo a crazy physical when he signs. I'm sure that he's going to work out for team as well. He's saying that he'll take a 1 year deal to prove he's healthy. Is he? I don't know. I do know that sometimes surgery isn't the only remedy. It wasn't a ruptured achilles, and that's the extent of the injury that I know. We'll see what happens but ERIC SMITH AS PLAN A IS NO PLAN AT ALL.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:37 AM

Which is why Landry is willing to take a 1 yr deal to prove hes healthy. He went a different route that surgery for his achilles, he did platelet rich plasma treatment.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 11:47 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 March 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!!!!!!!!! I'm in the same camp as you. Landry is not an end all be all BUT... dealing with Smitty another year? No.

Supposedly Landry is healthy. I'm sure he'll undergo a crazy physical when he signs. I'm sure that he's going to work out for team as well. He's saying that he'll take a 1 year deal to prove he's healthy. Is he? I don't know. I do know that sometimes surgery isn't the only remedy. It wasn't a ruptured achilles, and that's the extent of the injury that I know. We'll see what happens but ERIC SMITH AS PLAN A IS NO PLAN AT ALL.


A healthy smith is just as good as a weakened Landry. plus we have smith locked up for another 2 years if i remember correctly so unless we wanna take a cap hit, even as little as it may be, we are stuck with him anyway.



Sorry, I am not much of a gambling man and Landry has too many red flags. he isnt worth vet minimum as a safety in my opinion.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:41 PM

I would take either one. We just signed Landry so i'm good. Our safeties are horrible. Anyone would be an upgrade
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