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azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Tebow Thinks He Can Beat Out Sanchez For Starting Job

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:27 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 April 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Do you REALLY believe that? I have a question for you.....do you happen to know what round Bart Starr was drafted in? The 17th. Or if you want to come to modern day..... Tom Brady was a 6th Round draft pick at number 199 overall. So that means McElroy was drafter only 9 picks further back from Brady, so please tell me how you are relating drafting to the ability to play again?

OBVIOUSLY what round you get drafted in doesn't always equate to being a great player in the NFL. Ryan Leaf was a 1st rounder (2nd overall pick in the '98 draft) and wound up being a bust the last time I checked.

You need to come up with a FAR better argument than where someone is drafted to determine a player's worth on the field. Wayne Chrebet is a fine example of that. UNdrafted & was without a doubt THE premiere 3rd down clutch receiver in the league during his career.


Those videos you showed don't show that he has a strong arm. I watched him in preseason and saw him play in college, his arm is not strong. Its a good argument that he was drafted 7th round because of his physical limitations, bringing up past guys that were successful late round choices has nothing to do with what I said. I never said that McElroy couldn't succeed one day.

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Arm strength: McElroy possesses an average to below average arm and will struggle to an effective NFL quarterback. The first thing I noticed about McElroy's arm strength was that he struggled to get the ball out to his receivers on bubble screens. When running those wide receiver quick screens you need to get the ball to your target quickly and McElroy doesn't generate enough power to accomplish that. In the intermediate passing game, McElroy's passes are not delivered on a line and often arrive high. The lack of zip results in defenders being able to get a good break on the football. Don't expect McElroy to threaten a defense deep down the field. He doesn't have the ability to hit streaking targets deep down the field.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:31 PM

Haha you guys that say McElroy has all this talent have seen him throw a few passes in preseason.

Stop getting heated.

He's a pedestrian QB who will be a life long backup.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:18 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 01 April 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Haha you guys that say McElroy has all this talent have seen him throw a few passes in preseason.

Stop getting heated.

He's a pedestrian QB who will be a life long backup.


If he's lucky.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 04:55 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 01 April 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

If he's lucky.


Touche.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:05 AM

Are people seriously that ridiculous about Tebow being here that were putting Greg McElroy in the same discussion as Tom Brady and Bart Starr? Come on..

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 03:47 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 02 April 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

Are people seriously that ridiculous about Tebow being here that were putting Greg McElroy in the same discussion as Tom Brady and Bart Starr? Come on..

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There's that cliche that the backup quarterback is the most popular player on the team. Never has a third string guy been as popular as McElroy though!

He did reasonably well in preseason, then went onto IR. Not a lot can really be said about McElroy's NFL career other than that. He could be the next Tom Brady, but he could just also be the next Ken Dorsey - a National Championship winning college QB who gets drafted in the 7th round and bounces around the league for a few seasons as a serviceable backup.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 05:07 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 02 April 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

There's that cliche that the backup quarterback is the most popular player on the team. Never has a third string guy been as popular as McElroy though!

He did reasonably well in preseason, then went onto IR. Not a lot can really be said about McElroy's NFL career other than that. He could be the next Tom Brady, but he could just also be the next Ken Dorsey - a National Championship winning college QB who gets drafted in the 7th round and bounces around the league for a few seasons as a serviceable backup.



Agreed, even if we didn't get Tebow fans would be calling for the backup if Sanchez is struggling.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 02 April 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

Agreed, even if we didn't get Tebow fans would be calling for the backup if Sanchez is struggling.


Exactly what I've been trying to preach.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:50 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 02 April 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Agreed, even if we didn't get Tebow fans would be calling for the backup if Sanchez is struggling.


The annoying thing is going to be the non-Jet fans calling for him to start when Sanchez isn't struggling.
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