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SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:25 PM) I've read a ton of articles and all had him as the favorite
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:25 PM) Who was the favorite then?
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) "Smith was already going to be on most Heisman preseason lists, but a 407-yard, 6-TD performance in the Orange Bowl win over Clemson only solidified him as an elite passer. He can make every throw on the field and has a plethora of talented receivers coming back. Since this team will likely be playing in the Big 12, which has had the uncanny knack for inflating quarterback numbers recently, Smith and head coach Dana Holgorsen are going to leave opposing defenses charred and crippled on most Saturdays."
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) That's from a Jan 2012 article
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) You can google shit from 14 months ago and find a f*** ton of these
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:29 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/top-10-heisman-trophy-candidates-2012-heading-season-150300441--ncaaf.html
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:31 PM) http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/8/17/3249284/heisman-trophy-watchlist-2012-las-vegas-betting-odds-line-matt-barkley-montee-ball-denard-robinson
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:32 PM) He was 4th according to Vegas odds in April 2012
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) 4th makes him the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) you said he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) he wasn't anything near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:54 PM) he reached his pinnacle in the heisman race in the early part of last season
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:54 PM) at that point he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:56 PM) also, what a basketball game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 May 2013 - 10:21 PM) 4 point game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 May 2013 - 10:21 PM) maybe the pacers are that good
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) I said that his time last year, he was the favorite. I misspoke. He was 3rd or 4th. He certainly wasn't "not even in the 2nd tier" like you claimed
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) Take your medicine Matty
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) Maybe you should watch more college football instead of talking about watching college football
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:46 AM) No he wasn't 3rd or 4th
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 AM) He was the 4th favorite in vegas, making him no where near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 AM) Barkley had 3/2 odds, Geno was 9-1
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:48 AM) It's whatever
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 AM) Manish leaving jets beat
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 AM) About time
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 11:22 AM) Was he "not even in the 2nd tier"? No. STFU
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) Was he the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) Or even close to the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:27 AM) Nice Manish leaving? Good shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 AM) SHJ, your boy EJ leads a very sad life
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:57 AM) haha why do you say that
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 PM) I'm friends with SHJ on Facebook and I replied "TEH KNICKS" then EJ recognized my name and started commenting saying shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:04 PM) He then goes "yeah and f*** the Knicks" I wanted to tell him he doesn't know what that joke is because he's banned
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:05 PM) haha
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:05 PM) what a dick
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:55 PM) Yea i saw that about an hour after
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:55 PM) Very cringy
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:56 PM) He didn't bring anything to the table
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:38 PM) how can you say that? you supported the f*** out of him
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:40 PM) I like him when hes not off his rocking chair which is rare
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:49 PM) THE RANGERS
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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 11:14 PM) Small clubs mate
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Tebow Thinks He Can Beat Out Sanchez For Starting Job

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:27 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 April 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Do you REALLY believe that? I have a question for you.....do you happen to know what round Bart Starr was drafted in? The 17th. Or if you want to come to modern day..... Tom Brady was a 6th Round draft pick at number 199 overall. So that means McElroy was drafter only 9 picks further back from Brady, so please tell me how you are relating drafting to the ability to play again?

OBVIOUSLY what round you get drafted in doesn't always equate to being a great player in the NFL. Ryan Leaf was a 1st rounder (2nd overall pick in the '98 draft) and wound up being a bust the last time I checked.

You need to come up with a FAR better argument than where someone is drafted to determine a player's worth on the field. Wayne Chrebet is a fine example of that. UNdrafted & was without a doubt THE premiere 3rd down clutch receiver in the league during his career.


Those videos you showed don't show that he has a strong arm. I watched him in preseason and saw him play in college, his arm is not strong. Its a good argument that he was drafted 7th round because of his physical limitations, bringing up past guys that were successful late round choices has nothing to do with what I said. I never said that McElroy couldn't succeed one day.

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Arm strength: McElroy possesses an average to below average arm and will struggle to an effective NFL quarterback. The first thing I noticed about McElroy's arm strength was that he struggled to get the ball out to his receivers on bubble screens. When running those wide receiver quick screens you need to get the ball to your target quickly and McElroy doesn't generate enough power to accomplish that. In the intermediate passing game, McElroy's passes are not delivered on a line and often arrive high. The lack of zip results in defenders being able to get a good break on the football. Don't expect McElroy to threaten a defense deep down the field. He doesn't have the ability to hit streaking targets deep down the field.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:31 PM

Haha you guys that say McElroy has all this talent have seen him throw a few passes in preseason.

Stop getting heated.

He's a pedestrian QB who will be a life long backup.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:18 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 01 April 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Haha you guys that say McElroy has all this talent have seen him throw a few passes in preseason.

Stop getting heated.

He's a pedestrian QB who will be a life long backup.


If he's lucky.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 04:55 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 01 April 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

If he's lucky.


Touche.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:05 AM

Are people seriously that ridiculous about Tebow being here that were putting Greg McElroy in the same discussion as Tom Brady and Bart Starr? Come on..

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 03:47 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 02 April 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

Are people seriously that ridiculous about Tebow being here that were putting Greg McElroy in the same discussion as Tom Brady and Bart Starr? Come on..

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There's that cliche that the backup quarterback is the most popular player on the team. Never has a third string guy been as popular as McElroy though!

He did reasonably well in preseason, then went onto IR. Not a lot can really be said about McElroy's NFL career other than that. He could be the next Tom Brady, but he could just also be the next Ken Dorsey - a National Championship winning college QB who gets drafted in the 7th round and bounces around the league for a few seasons as a serviceable backup.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 05:07 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 02 April 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

There's that cliche that the backup quarterback is the most popular player on the team. Never has a third string guy been as popular as McElroy though!

He did reasonably well in preseason, then went onto IR. Not a lot can really be said about McElroy's NFL career other than that. He could be the next Tom Brady, but he could just also be the next Ken Dorsey - a National Championship winning college QB who gets drafted in the 7th round and bounces around the league for a few seasons as a serviceable backup.



Agreed, even if we didn't get Tebow fans would be calling for the backup if Sanchez is struggling.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 02 April 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

Agreed, even if we didn't get Tebow fans would be calling for the backup if Sanchez is struggling.


Exactly what I've been trying to preach.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:50 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 02 April 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Agreed, even if we didn't get Tebow fans would be calling for the backup if Sanchez is struggling.


The annoying thing is going to be the non-Jet fans calling for him to start when Sanchez isn't struggling.
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