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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:21 PM

We all know the Jets need a passrusher/pass rush and an OLB in the worst way.... we select at #16, I could see Rex falling in love with a pass rusher(player) and wanted to move up to get him. Coples is the best pass rusher in the draft and is projected anywhere from 6 to 10!!

Jets had tons of people at Carolina's pro day and we have to get Rex a Terrell Suggs/demarcus Ware type of player(not saying coples we be as good as either of those guys) the point being... We need a Stud OLB and I think this might be Rex's guy!!!
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

Not sure about him, 7.57 3-cone worries me. Don't really want to trade up. The guy I want is Melvin Ingram, he would be able to do so many things on this defense. If only he would fall to us.

I wonder if the Jets have interest in Zach Brown as well, he is a great athlete and would be a big improvement at LB in terms of coverage and speed.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

So your saying to trade picks to get him?

No thanks.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:02 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 23 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Not sure about him, 7.57 3-cone worries me. Don't really want to trade up. The guy I want is Melvin Ingram, he would be able to do so many things on this defense. If only he would fall to us.

I wonder if the Jets have interest in Zach Brown as well, he is a great athlete and would be a big improvement at LB in terms of coverage and speed.


Zach Brown is going to be one hell of a player.

Probably not exactly made for a 3-4 but I

Think the Pats would LOVE him at their pick.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:31 PM

Stay where we are and take ingram or mercilus. One of them will be there. Then hope to land Stephen hill in the 2nd even if we have to move up a few spots
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 04:19 PM

I actually kinda hope that we double up in the draft and take Ingram/Upshaw in the 1st and Curry in the 2nd. We really have nothing at OLB. B Thomas is obviously on his last legs and Pace is in his last year.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 04:36 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 23 March 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

I actually kinda hope that we double up in the draft and take Ingram/Upshaw in the 1st and Curry in the 2nd. We really have nothing at OLB. B Thomas is obviously on his last legs and Pace is in his last year.


I'd be tempted with drafting OLBs back to back, but still think we'd be better served looking to fill two different positions with our first pair of picks next month. Obviously we should draft the best player available at the time, so if that's an edge rusher in the first and another in the second then fair enough. But if there's a quality safety, receiver or tackle there then I'd pull the trigger on one of them instead.
With the Tebow trade we're down a pick in the middle rounds so I don't think the front office can necessarily afford to concentrate so much attention on one specific area early on. Depth across the board is something we've been lacking these past couple seasons. Hopefully we get a compensation pick back in that part of the draft though to mitigate against that and near enough get back what we gave up for Timmy.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 23 March 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

I'd be tempted with drafting OLBs back to back, but still think we'd be better served looking to fill two different positions with our first pair of picks next month. Obviously we should draft the best player available at the time, so if that's an edge rusher in the first and another in the second then fair enough. But if there's a quality safety, receiver or tackle there then I'd pull the trigger on one of them instead.
With the Tebow trade we're down a pick in the middle rounds so I don't think the front office can necessarily afford to concentrate so much attention on one specific area early on. Depth across the board is something we've been lacking these past couple seasons. Hopefully we get a compensation pick back in that part of the draft though to mitigate against that and near enough get back what we gave up for Timmy.


I've been studying mock drafts and this seems to be a down year for FS. Our best bet, and I hate saying this, will probably be bringing Leonhard back.

With that said, I think that OLB is our weakest position. We have marginal talent at starters and nothing behind them. Even if Maybin figures it out, He's an UFA at the end of this year and I doubt that the Jets will extend him unless he can somehow become a 3 down lineman. BT is done and Pace is on his way. We need to replentish the position (which is arguable one of the most important in our defense) sooner or later. Two picks this year or one now and one next doesnt matter. It will require multiple picks to fix.

At RT, it sound like this is Vlad Duceasses year to prove what he can do. He'll be given every opportunity to win the starting job. I don't think the FO is going to spend an early pick on his replacement just yet. With Hunter still cashing checks and Turner coming back plus that USC C we signed, we have enough dept to start the season with. I'm not saying I agree with that plan, but that's what the plan looks like right now.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:34 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 23 March 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

I actually kinda hope that we double up in the draft and take Ingram/Upshaw in the 1st and Curry in the 2nd. We really have nothing at OLB. B Thomas is obviously on his last legs and Pace is in his last year.

That would be nice, but Ingram probably doesn't fall to us and Curry is probably going round 1.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:20 PM

Trent Robinson at FS real late, please.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:59 PM



I could only imagine what Rex would do with Ingram, all the roles he could play on defense.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:32 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 23 March 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

That would be nice, but Ingram probably doesn't fall to us and Curry is probably going round 1.


I think Ingram is going to go in our neighborhood. Here's how I'm looking at this:

There are 4 teams that I think can potentially draft an OLB/DE in front of us:

Jags @ 7
Fish @ 8
Bills @ 10
Seattle @ 12

I think that Ingram is either #3 or #4 on a lot of boards. Coples seems to be the consistent #1, then Upshaw, then Ingram but Wiley Marcellus is going to rise because people think that he's the next JPP.

With that said, I think the Bills just spent $100M on Mario and will probably draft offense since they didn't sign anyone on that side of the ball. I also think that the Jags are going to need to put bodies in the stands and therefore have to try to improve their offense so I'm thinking they grab a WR with homerun capabilities.

I read somewhere that Ingram has really short arms. I'm not sure if that's true or what the means but he may not be ideally suited for the 4-3. As for Curry, I'm seeing him consistently mocked in the 2nd round, that's why I said that.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:55 PM

Ingram can play OLB, DE and UT... the latter two when we go with 4 down linemen. He can drop into space and he has a knack for a big play.

I've been raving for him for months. He's ideal for this defense.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:48 PM

WTF! WHY DIDNT WE TAKE INGRAM! we didn't have to trade up, he fell right in our hands, and we threw him away.


Coples has questionable effort and dissapears at times, sound familiar? Hello Vernon Gholston version 2.0! Welcome to a team who still cant draft. :sterb003: :banghead:
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostEliteJets, on 26 April 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

just saying hello from march 23rd when i said coples could be our guy and we didnt even have to move up to get him.


We should have taken Ingram.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:50 PM

View PostClemens11, on 26 April 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

WTF! WHY DIDNT WE TAKE INGRAM! we didn't have to trade up, he fell right in our hands, and we threw him away.


Coples has questionable effort and dissapears at times, sound familiar? Hello Vernon Gholston version 2.0! Welcome to a team who still cant draft. :sterb003: :banghead:

100% Agreed...

I hope I am wrong and this guy is a stud, I just don't see it. He'll most likely be a bust IMO
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:54 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 26 April 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

100% Agreed...

I hope I am wrong and this guy is a stud, I just don't see it. He'll most likely be a bust IMO



yea, i mean seriously, they were saying how he gets blocked and stays blocked a lot. we already have a bunch of guys that already do that! so stupid. He BETTER pan out, but he definately smells like a bust. what the hell is tanny thinking?
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:55 PM

View PostEliteJets, on 26 April 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

just saying hello from march 23rd when i said coples could be our guy and we didnt even have to move up to get him.


Great, a dude who spends his time in the chatbox running his mouth shows up to bring up one time a month ago when he was right. Lets all bump threads we were right on (Clemens11, you can move on).



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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostEliteJets, on 26 April 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

wow what a douche^^^ ill run my mouth all day everyday anywhere... nice cheap shot... what a pussy


Pussy? What does that mean? I'm just glad you spend all your time chatting so there is one less know-nothing-know-it-all on the board pretending to be knowledgeable about sports when they don;t know shit.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:05 PM

hahahahah this is why i blocked elite YEARS ago :hysterical:
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