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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Would You Take A Og Round 1?

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:36 PM

Say Melvin Ingram is gone, Michael Floyd is gone, Trent Richardson is gone. We are sitting there and David Decastro is available, would you take him? This is a guy who is a pretty safe pick, mots think hes a future all pro guard. While Guard isn't a huge need, it could represent best available player, and Slauson/Moore are both UFA after this season. Slauson is also coming off of significant surgery.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:39 PM

I'm all for beefing up the trenches. Jets had some of their better success when the oline was stout.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:43 PM

He probably won't fall to the Jets anyways, but I don't think I would be upset with the pick since its adding a great player.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

f*** no
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:55 PM

Everytime I hear "safe" pick I cringe. If none of the guys we're targeting is there, I'd rather move down.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 30 March 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Everytime I hear "safe" pick I cringe. If none of the guys we're targeting is there, I'd rather move down.


To trade down you have to have someone willing to trade up to get a player they want.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

I rate Guards as the least important position on a football field.

Not that they don't make an impact, but the fact that they grow on f***ing trees. Only since we paid Faneca have Guards actually seen big contracts.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:54 PM

Never. only o-line worth taking in the 1st is LT or C
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

No
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:02 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 March 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Never. only o-line worth taking in the 1st is LT or C


Quit stealing my motto!

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 30 March 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Quit stealing my motto!

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lol and I still wouldn't even take a center top 15. LTs are worth the 1st overall pick if they are good enough. C are worth 16-32 if they are good enough. RTs and Guards should never be in the 1st round
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

You can't question the success that Steve Hutchinson and Alan Faneca had, the impact they had on run games. I believe you get the best players when you go best available.

And anyways, DeCastro most likely won't be on the board at 16, teams love him way too much.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:45 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 March 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

lol and I still wouldn't even take a center top 15. LTs are worth the 1st overall pick if they are good enough. C are worth 16-32 if they are good enough. RTs and Guards should never be in the 1st round


I'd draft a center in the top 20, no doubt. Also a RT in the bottom half.


View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 March 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

You can't question the success that Steve Hutchinson and Alan Faneca had, the impact they had on run games. I believe you get the best players when you go best available.

And anyways, DeCastro most likely won't be on the board at 16, teams love him way too much.


Yeah, I didn't say they have no impact. I said you can find impactful Guards all over. That's how I've always felt.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:02 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 March 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

To trade down you have to have someone willing to trade up to get a player they want.

Right on!! If there is no value for us at our pick trade down and pick up some extra picks. Our depth has been shitty for the past few years due to us trading away players and picks. Gaurd is not a need. Taclke Safety Pass Rush should be our focus.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:00 AM

The teams that are consistently the best in the NFL are the teams that draft a replacement before that position becomes a need. Moore is getting older, and on the last year of his contract. Slauson has been serviceable, but hardly anything more than an average guard. You may think OG isn't a need this year, but you might see a totally different picture next year when Moore is no longer a Jet and Slauson has proven he's already reached his low ceiling. At the point, you might be wishing the Jets had taken DeCastro instead of one of the pass rushers that end up not panning out, simply because you thought the pass rush was the most important need.

I'm all for drafting players that have a very high probability of being successful. DeCastro has a very high floor, but also a very high ceiling...that's why he is considered a top 20 pick at OG. If the value of the board at 16 leaves DeCastro as the best player, take him.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 31 March 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

The teams that are consistently the best in the NFL are the teams that draft a replacement before that position becomes a need. Moore is getting older, and on the last year of his contract. Slauson has been serviceable, but hardly anything more than an average guard. You may think OG isn't a need this year, but you might see a totally different picture next year when Moore is no longer a Jet and Slauson has proven he's already reached his low ceiling. At the point, you might be wishing the Jets had taken DeCastro instead of one of the pass rushers that end up not panning out, simply because you thought the pass rush was the most important need.

I'm all for drafting players that have a very high probability of being successful. DeCastro has a very high floor, but also a very high ceiling...that's why he is considered a top 20 pick at OG. If the value of the board at 16 leaves DeCastro as the best player, take him.


I agree with drafting ahead but the OG position is one that can be filled without using a 1st. All I am saying is trade down before taking a OG that high in the first. If we had the 30th pick maybe.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:43 PM

I wouldn't do it.

But like HJ said, I'd be more happy that we're drafting BPA if we ended up taking him. That's always been my draft philosophy and I don't think the Jets do it.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

yea man... spending a 1st on a RT is a no no. I thought about it once to. I always come back to the same answer. Hell to the no.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:20 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 31 March 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

The teams that are consistently the best in the NFL are the teams that draft a replacement before that position becomes a need. Moore is getting older, and on the last year of his contract. Slauson has been serviceable, but hardly anything more than an average guard. You may think OG isn't a need this year, but you might see a totally different picture next year when Moore is no longer a Jet and Slauson has proven he's already reached his low ceiling. At the point, you might be wishing the Jets had taken DeCastro instead of one of the pass rushers that end up not panning out, simply because you thought the pass rush was the most important need.

I'm all for drafting players that have a very high probability of being successful. DeCastro has a very high floor, but also a very high ceiling...that's why he is considered a top 20 pick at OG. If the value of the board at 16 leaves DeCastro as the best player, take him.


I agree with this. Not that Decastro will even fall to us, but if he does and is the highest rated guy than I would take him. Slauson is coming off of major shoulder surgery and is average to begin with, also both OG FA after the season. Want a ground and pound offense, have a dominant OL.

I would not be upset with taking Decastro, hes probably is a instant upgrade over Slauson. I rather not reach for a guy based off of need and get someone who is a so-so player.

I think the players I want at 16 right now are Melvin Ingram, Michael Floyd, David Decastro, or Mark Barron. If we miss out on Ingram I rather not reach for another pass rusher, don't see any being worthy of being picked at 16. I would love Vinny Curry round 2.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:47 PM

I'm all for BPA but there is certain wrinkles in that.
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