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NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Would You Take A Og Round 1?

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:36 PM

Say Melvin Ingram is gone, Michael Floyd is gone, Trent Richardson is gone. We are sitting there and David Decastro is available, would you take him? This is a guy who is a pretty safe pick, mots think hes a future all pro guard. While Guard isn't a huge need, it could represent best available player, and Slauson/Moore are both UFA after this season. Slauson is also coming off of significant surgery.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:39 PM

I'm all for beefing up the trenches. Jets had some of their better success when the oline was stout.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:43 PM

He probably won't fall to the Jets anyways, but I don't think I would be upset with the pick since its adding a great player.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

f*** no
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:55 PM

Everytime I hear "safe" pick I cringe. If none of the guys we're targeting is there, I'd rather move down.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 30 March 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Everytime I hear "safe" pick I cringe. If none of the guys we're targeting is there, I'd rather move down.


To trade down you have to have someone willing to trade up to get a player they want.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

I rate Guards as the least important position on a football field.

Not that they don't make an impact, but the fact that they grow on f***ing trees. Only since we paid Faneca have Guards actually seen big contracts.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:54 PM

Never. only o-line worth taking in the 1st is LT or C
Get it done MT
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

No
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:02 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 March 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Never. only o-line worth taking in the 1st is LT or C


Quit stealing my motto!

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 30 March 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Quit stealing my motto!

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lol and I still wouldn't even take a center top 15. LTs are worth the 1st overall pick if they are good enough. C are worth 16-32 if they are good enough. RTs and Guards should never be in the 1st round
Get it done MT
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

You can't question the success that Steve Hutchinson and Alan Faneca had, the impact they had on run games. I believe you get the best players when you go best available.

And anyways, DeCastro most likely won't be on the board at 16, teams love him way too much.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:45 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 March 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

lol and I still wouldn't even take a center top 15. LTs are worth the 1st overall pick if they are good enough. C are worth 16-32 if they are good enough. RTs and Guards should never be in the 1st round


I'd draft a center in the top 20, no doubt. Also a RT in the bottom half.


View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 March 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

You can't question the success that Steve Hutchinson and Alan Faneca had, the impact they had on run games. I believe you get the best players when you go best available.

And anyways, DeCastro most likely won't be on the board at 16, teams love him way too much.


Yeah, I didn't say they have no impact. I said you can find impactful Guards all over. That's how I've always felt.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:02 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 March 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

To trade down you have to have someone willing to trade up to get a player they want.

Right on!! If there is no value for us at our pick trade down and pick up some extra picks. Our depth has been shitty for the past few years due to us trading away players and picks. Gaurd is not a need. Taclke Safety Pass Rush should be our focus.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:00 AM

The teams that are consistently the best in the NFL are the teams that draft a replacement before that position becomes a need. Moore is getting older, and on the last year of his contract. Slauson has been serviceable, but hardly anything more than an average guard. You may think OG isn't a need this year, but you might see a totally different picture next year when Moore is no longer a Jet and Slauson has proven he's already reached his low ceiling. At the point, you might be wishing the Jets had taken DeCastro instead of one of the pass rushers that end up not panning out, simply because you thought the pass rush was the most important need.

I'm all for drafting players that have a very high probability of being successful. DeCastro has a very high floor, but also a very high ceiling...that's why he is considered a top 20 pick at OG. If the value of the board at 16 leaves DeCastro as the best player, take him.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 31 March 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

The teams that are consistently the best in the NFL are the teams that draft a replacement before that position becomes a need. Moore is getting older, and on the last year of his contract. Slauson has been serviceable, but hardly anything more than an average guard. You may think OG isn't a need this year, but you might see a totally different picture next year when Moore is no longer a Jet and Slauson has proven he's already reached his low ceiling. At the point, you might be wishing the Jets had taken DeCastro instead of one of the pass rushers that end up not panning out, simply because you thought the pass rush was the most important need.

I'm all for drafting players that have a very high probability of being successful. DeCastro has a very high floor, but also a very high ceiling...that's why he is considered a top 20 pick at OG. If the value of the board at 16 leaves DeCastro as the best player, take him.


I agree with drafting ahead but the OG position is one that can be filled without using a 1st. All I am saying is trade down before taking a OG that high in the first. If we had the 30th pick maybe.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:43 PM

I wouldn't do it.

But like HJ said, I'd be more happy that we're drafting BPA if we ended up taking him. That's always been my draft philosophy and I don't think the Jets do it.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

yea man... spending a 1st on a RT is a no no. I thought about it once to. I always come back to the same answer. Hell to the no.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:20 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 31 March 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

The teams that are consistently the best in the NFL are the teams that draft a replacement before that position becomes a need. Moore is getting older, and on the last year of his contract. Slauson has been serviceable, but hardly anything more than an average guard. You may think OG isn't a need this year, but you might see a totally different picture next year when Moore is no longer a Jet and Slauson has proven he's already reached his low ceiling. At the point, you might be wishing the Jets had taken DeCastro instead of one of the pass rushers that end up not panning out, simply because you thought the pass rush was the most important need.

I'm all for drafting players that have a very high probability of being successful. DeCastro has a very high floor, but also a very high ceiling...that's why he is considered a top 20 pick at OG. If the value of the board at 16 leaves DeCastro as the best player, take him.


I agree with this. Not that Decastro will even fall to us, but if he does and is the highest rated guy than I would take him. Slauson is coming off of major shoulder surgery and is average to begin with, also both OG FA after the season. Want a ground and pound offense, have a dominant OL.

I would not be upset with taking Decastro, hes probably is a instant upgrade over Slauson. I rather not reach for a guy based off of need and get someone who is a so-so player.

I think the players I want at 16 right now are Melvin Ingram, Michael Floyd, David Decastro, or Mark Barron. If we miss out on Ingram I rather not reach for another pass rusher, don't see any being worthy of being picked at 16. I would love Vinny Curry round 2.
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:47 PM

I'm all for BPA but there is certain wrinkles in that.
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