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SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) You're not in NY. All the backpages are focused on Sanchez
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) None of the NY media even mention Cruz or Nicks
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:40 PM) nicks isn't holding out. he's injured still and taking it easy. cruz is holding out. why it isn't a big ordeal IDK. it would be for us
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:02 PM) maybe because theyre not that far off.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:02 PM) Cruz wants to return back, they'll figure it out.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) 3 mil a year off or 30% less then cruz wants. tahst alot of money to be off
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) cruz doens't want to leave NY cause teh extra money he'll get in endorsements plus he knows taht they can RFA him this year and then Franchise next year so he might not be able to get a LTD for 3 years
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 PM) Clemens11/Tebow15 (soon to be Smith7) said if we had just drafted Crabtree and Nicks and kept Clemens, we'd be good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) No, he can't be Smith7
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) his name is reserved for garbage QBs, we don't want Geno to be bad
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) He can be McElroy14
extmenace Icon : (Yesterday, 06:51 PM) we're taking bridgewater next year with the number 1 pick and treating geno like a jimmy clausen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:53 PM) What makes Bridgewater better than Geno?
HurricaneJet32 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:12 PM) everything
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:56 PM) ^
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 PM) college players always get hyped up before the draft process, just wondering what makes him so much better.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:19 PM) Stronger arm, plays in a pro system, better throwing motion, better athlete
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:19 PM) there's probably nothing Geno does right now that's better than what Teddy does
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 10:25 PM) Wouldn't it be funny with Bridgewater ends up having the type of season Barkley had?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:48 AM) better athlete but never runs as well
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:48 AM) stronger arm but rarely throws deep
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:48 AM) I am trying to find this article, but Bridgewater had about the least amount of 40+ throws in college football
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:49 AM) I wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't viewed as highly next year. College players always get hyped up a year before the draft process. People change their opinions quickly.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:56 AM) I'll put a good amount of money that Bridgewater is still highly regarded coming out next year.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:00 AM) ok I found the chart
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:00 AM) Bridgewater had 0% of his passes go 40+ yards in college
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) he could be, I'll wait though
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) I doubt Smith will be as bad as Clausen anyways
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:03 AM) I remember watching Clausen in a NFL game and the guy couldn't even throw a spiral.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:03 AM) Geno has been impressing teammates with how well he can spin the ball and sling it.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 08:31 AM) I hope Geno turns out to be a f***ing monster
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:52 AM) andrew luck was hyped up for like 3 years before he entered teh draft
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:34 AM) tehhhh
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:37 AM) it wasn't for 3 years and Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect to come out in years. Teddy Bridgewater most likely isn't Luck or RGIII
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) I've only seen Bridgewater play once. That was against Florida, I actually watched that game.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 12:12 PM) Teddy will be a good NFL QB I think
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:52 PM) THE KNICKS
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 01:21 PM) THE. KNICKS.
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:43 PM) Geno was the favorite to win the Heisman this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:44 PM) He was also a Top 5 pick this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:44 PM) If he came out in 2012, he might have gotten drafted before RG3
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 02:56 PM) TEH KNICKS
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:25 PM) noway he would have been drafted before RGIII
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) Tehhhh
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 04:12 PM) chuck norris said tebow is a great QB. i'm so conflicted becuase tebow sucks but on the other hand if chuck norris said it, it must be true lol
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:53 AM

Ugh...I did write-ups for most of the prospects below...and managed to lose all of it. The only thing I had left was this shitty intro...ssssoooo. This is gonna be brief. Hopefully, it will still give everyone a good overview of who is out there, and make draft day(s) a little more exciting.

Before Tim Tebow, the unofficial Jets buzz words were "Pass Rush". Or the lack thereof. The Jets got some sack production out of Aaron Maybin last year, but it was hardly the kind of one-on-one, sack artist production the Jets need. Most of Maybin's sacks were of the "coverage" variety, and not the singular threat that opponents need to game plan against. It's not to discredit Maybin's value...his speed and relentless pursuit is what led to those sacks...and they are important. However, what the Jets need is somebody who get their man QUICKLY, and force the opposing quarterback to get rid of the ball QUICKLY.

Some people have proposed a simple increase in Maybin's playing time would lead to more sack production. It simply doesn't work that way. Maybin came in on obvious passing downs, more specifically, downs where he could obviously just run as fast as possible to try and get to the quarterback. Not only would his smaller frame probably be beaten down by the increased workload, but his opportunities for sacks wouldn't necessarily go up.

Outside of Mario Williams, there wasn't really a premier pass rushing threat to be had on the free agent market. So, the Jets will have to once again look to the draft for a pass rusher. This draft class is spotty, at best. There are some intriguing prospects, but they all have fairly large and legitimate questions. There are no DeMarcus Ware's to be found here. As we learned with Vernon Gholston, if you miss on a first round pick, it sets that position back several years. The Jets cannot afford to miss twice in a row on the outside linebacker position...

Posted ImageMelvin Ingram - 6'1" 265 - South Carolina

Most of you know Ingram by now, so basically he is the consensus top pass rusher in the draft, but not the most physically gifted. He does have surprisingly athleticism for his size (Ingram performed surprisingly well in agility drills at the combine), but is still more of an effort/businessman style player.

Posted ImageQuinton Coples - 6'6" 285 - University of North Carolina

Coples might be that most physically gifted pass rusher, but there are large questions concerning his effort. Maybe not the physical freak of former Tar Heel Julius Peppers, but he is that type of player. His size might prevent him from being an OLB, and wouldn't be best utilized as a 3-4 DE. His talent is top 10, but he could fall due to effort concerns.

Note: Those are the consensus Top Two...but you'll find a very large difference of opinion in the next 5 or so prospects.

Posted ImageCourtney Upshaw - 6'2" 270 - Alabama

Upshaw probably won't be a bust, he's well-coached at Bama, and has experience as a 34 OLB. But, I just don't see him ever being great. His limit physically too much to ever be more than a solid player...more of a 2nd-3rd rounder to me that will go higher because of his National Championship team exposure.

Posted ImageAndre Branch - 6'4" 260 - Clemson

A great, straight line athlete...Branch isn't the most technically sound and consistent pass rusher. He also lacks the strength to hold up against the run, which will obviously be less of an issue lining up at OLB. Played the bandit role at Clemson, which has made a lot of prospects look better than they became in the NFL.

Posted ImageNick Perry - 6'3" 270 - USC

Perry is a great athlete, strong, fast, explosive...but he doesn't know how to play the position. I never understood why he was considered such a top prospect even only a few weeks ago. But his stock has cooled off a bit, and rightfully so. If you look at his tape, his sacks were mostly of the coverage/opportunity variety...and not enough of those quick, individually disruptive plays.

Posted ImageWhitney Mercilus - 6'4" 260 - Illinois

Mercilus is hard to figure. He has one-year wonder written all over him, posting 16 sacks in his final year, after notching only 2 sacks previously. That is all.

Posted ImageChandler Jones - 6'5" 265 - Syracuse

Many compare Jones to Jason Pierre-Paul...which is a good comparison. In both potential and distance from that potential. Best fit is as a 4-3 DE (As he looks to have the frame to add significant healthy weight), though it is possible he could keep the weight down and move to OLB...maybe.

Posted ImageBruce Irvin - 6'3" 245 - West Virginia

Even if he wasn't such a f***ing moron, the Jets already have Aaron Maybin. Irvin is a pass rusher, that's it. He was only a situational player in college, though part of that can be attributed to West Virginia's base 3-3-5 defense, where Irvin's lack of size doesn't match with the requirements of an End in a 3 man front. He's just f***ing stupid though, getting arrested for disorderly conduct and destruction of property just 3 weeks ago. Not to mention his time spent in a juvenile detention center, and failing out of high school. Now, I know people make mistakes and can come from hard backgrounds...but to get arrested mere weeks before the NFL Draft...COME ON!!!

Posted ImageOlivier Vernon - 6'2" 260 - University of Miami

Vernon is one of the prospects I'm hoping for the Jets. Not because he is some elite talent, but I think he can outperform his draft round. He's basically Bryan Thomas...great against the run and offers above average pass rush ability. Vernon had a great beginning to his career, starting as a true freshman and recording 7.5 sacks in his first two years. Much was expected in his junior year, but he missed 6 games in the Shapiro scandal, and only tallied 1.5 sacks in limited time.

But, Vernon still declared early, probably to the detriment of his draft stock. Early in the draft season, Vernon wasn't getting much hype at all, and I thought he would be a steal in the late rounds. Now, with good workouts and a look back at his tape I think people are realizing that, and he seems to be creeping. Still, if he is available in the 4th round on, I think Vernon is a great value.

And I'm tired...so here are the other guys I wrote about but lost...

- Vinny Curry - Marshall
- Cam Johnson - Virginia
- Brandon Lindsey - Pitt
- Shea McClellin - Boise State
- Donte Paige-Moss - UNC
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

Good stuff.

How do I catch shit about the Gators but you haven't ever about Miami?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:43 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 April 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

Good stuff.

How do I catch shit about the Gators but you haven't ever about Miami?

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Yeah I know...but realistically it isn't homerism. These guys are all legit prospects I've mentioned...Miami still turns out the pro prospects, even if they suck as a team in college.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:54 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 19 April 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:

Yeah I know...but realistically it isn't homerism. These guys are all legit prospects I've mentioned...Miami still turns out the pro prospects, even if they suck as a team in college.


Realistically, it's pure homerism. You're not mentioning him if he wasn't a Cane.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:26 PM

its a deep class for pass rushers. I'm gonna trust in rex and MT to get us a good one in the draft and not worry about which one they pick
Get it done MT
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:31 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 April 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Realistically, it's pure homerism. You're not mentioning him if he wasn't a Cane.

I'm not saying I have a problem with it, I just think it's funny. Posted Image


Nah man it really isn't...now maybe I wouldn't know as much about Vernon if he wasn't a Cane...and therefore I wouldn't have taken notice.

But I'm not just over hyping a guy simply because he went to Miami. If so I would be all over Marcus Forston...but I think he will be a bust. Adawele Ojomo would be a monster, Micanor Regis is a great sleeper (actually he might be), and Jacory Harris will put it all together in the pro's!!!!

But I'm not saying that...you're just jealous that there are no Gators worth talking about... :beach:

PS - There are 19 Miami players in this draft.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:38 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 19 April 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Nah man it really isn't...now maybe I wouldn't know as much about Vernon if he wasn't a Cane...and therefore I wouldn't have taken notice.

But I'm not just over hyping a guy simply because he went to Miami. If so I would be all over Marcus Forston...but I think he will be a bust. Adawele Ojomo would be a monster, Micanor Regis is a great sleeper (actually he might be), and Jacory Harris will put it all together in the pro's!!!!

But I'm not saying that...you're just jealous that there are no Gators worth talking about... :beach:

PS - There are 19 Miami players in this draft.


Not saying you're overhyping this kid... I'm saying you know about him through your ties with Miami. Same as I do when (have I even ever?) mentioned a Gator in a draft write up. But I normally catch hell, you seem to skate by.

CMON CLEMENS11 COME GET HIM!!!

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 April 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Not saying you're overhyping this kid... I'm saying you know about him through your ties with Miami. Same as I do when (have I even ever?) mentioned a Gator in a draft write up. But I normally catch hell, you seem to skate by.

CMON CLEMENS11 COME GET HIM!!!

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Why would I go after him? I love THE U :tongue: lol
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:12 PM

View PostClemens11, on 19 April 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Why would I go after him? I love THE U :tongue: lol


And Notre Dame.

Gotcha.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:11 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 April 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

And Notre Dame.

Gotcha.


Well that's physically impossible.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:23 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 19 April 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

Well that's physically impossible.


It's Clemens11.

Don't even go there.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:39 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 19 April 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

Well that's physically impossible.


Notre Dame fan from birth, Canes fan only because of Vinny Testaverde (my favorite football player of all-time). I wasn't around when they had their rivalry. I didn't even know they had a big rivalry until I was in High School thats how non-existant it was. So, very possible. They JUST started playing each other again, and no matter who wins, its a win for one of my teams so I don't mind.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:15 AM

It never sat right with me that the Canes mascot is a crane. Thats just laziness to me.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 20 April 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

It never sat right with me that the Canes mascot is a crane. Thats just laziness to me.



Well then you will be happy to know that it is an Ibis and not a crane ;) comon mistake.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 20 April 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

It never sat right with me that the Canes mascot is a crane. Thats just laziness to me.


So the lame ass story is that an ibis is the last animal to leave before a hurricane, and the first to come back. Quite frankly, that just makes it sound like a dumb bird.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:25 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 20 April 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

So the lame ass story is that an ibis is the last animal to leave before a hurricane, and the first to come back. Quite frankly, that just makes it sound like a dumb bird.


Thats pretty cool. They got lucky that it wasnt the dung beetle.
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