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ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) If someone calls me an idiot or moron or stupid over a football debate it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But when you make things personal like with racist things or family crap its a whole different level
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) I felt my FLiHi remark was as "harmless" as you did calling another person a Moron and stupid because they didn't agree with your opinion
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:38 PM) my friends and I call each other morons and stupid an laugh at each other when we do something stupid like when we are drinking. It means nothing. and we laugh about it because its harmless. I'm trying to tell you this is a big difference between what you say to people and what others do.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:40 PM) Heck 115 rags me a lot and it doesnt bother me in the least. i rag him too. Same with GG2003 and SHJ. There is a difference between friendly banter and disagreements and crossing the line
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:44 PM) So your opinion of the line is right and my opinion is wrong? Is that what your saying? I don't know you. I'm not a drinking buddy of yours. Maybe you should learn some social tact.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) you felt it was harmless but you were the only one. Everyone else understood why I got was extremely offended about it the first time because you cross the line with what you say to people. Apparently you realized it enough to send me a long pm apologizing and having communication problems that get you in trouble sometimes. But now you cant understand the difference?
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:48 PM) I understand why. What I'm saying is if you take a jab people will jab back. Have you heard that saying " dont throw rocks when you live in a glass house?"
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:49 PM) The way you understand things if I call you an idiot about not wanting to trade for a high end qb its no different from me disrespecting your family. Thats what Im getting from you. So the way you see things everything is equally personal
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:50 PM) From complete strangers on an Internet forum? Yes. Man up
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM) Nod the debate was if he is a "high end" player. I thought he was well above average but not worth a 6th overall pick
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:55 PM) Not worth my time to even acknowledge anymore. Just going to ignore you like I do Mr. Jet. You have a lot of mental growing up to do.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) That's funny coming from a guy who went butt f*** crazy a couple hours ago
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) Meanwhile you can't seem to respect that others opinions are different than yours
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:59 PM) You are emotionally weak. You went through some serious shit growing up and you can't adjust. You take it out on your keyboard.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) When someone challenges your immaturity you have a complete crazy freak out and act like a girl on her first period
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) Hence the "go wipe your pussy and man up comment
Mr_Jet Icon : (15 April 2015 - 10:16 PM) Please Rob, leave my name out of your little bitchfest.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 11:46 PM) My bad. You have been respecting my request to you I had a while backI made to you by us not commenting to each other to keep peace between us. I was totally in the wrong for bringing your name up at all and into an argument with member that has issues. I got furious furious with a child. I should've just ignored him like I do the other immature kids on some game forums and sites I belong to. Wont happen again. My apologies for bringing your name into it Mr. Jet.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:04 AM) Dude.... Get back on your meds.
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:47 AM) WTF? Really???
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:48 AM) Now back to our regular scheduled program......
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Lol that escalated quickly
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:24 AM) Rex is chirping again.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) He said he is going to try and kick the Shit out of the Jets
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) http://sports.yahoo....l8xBHNlYwNzcg--
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I still like the guy. He's entertaining
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:25 PM) i miss rex. love his demeanor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:26 PM) i'd be happy if he kicks the shit out of miami and NE every year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I'm excited for the new coaching staff
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) Rex wsa fun, but he was too much with the defense instead of the entire football team
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:57 PM) also he didn't always hold players accountable. I think Bowles will make the team more disciplined.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:50 AM) I don't have any faith in bowles
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) “San Diego Chargers will ultimately make a deal with the Tennessee Titans for the number two overall pick. As part of that trade, the Chargers will send the number 17 overall pick and Philip Rivers, just as a start, for the number two pick.”
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) Damn... Who called it? This guy.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 AM) http://national.sunt...s-mariota-trade
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) So we would now lose out on maroita and rivers
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) Ain't that super
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:39 PM) do we make a trade for AP?
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:41 PM) I believe the rivers stuff is all speculation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) So a top ten qb and the 17th pick for the 2nd overall as a start? Makes sense
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) So Many smokescreens this time of year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:08 PM) only 2 more weeks before we find out. draft day will be exciting
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:09 PM) my money is we'll take a pass rushing OLB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) Yup, unless they trade up.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 01:13 PM

View PostDisplacednewyorker, on 28 April 2012 - 05:55 AM, said:

Exactly!

How many of you here actually sat and watched Coples play an entire game or games. I bet less than 1%.
There is no way to clearly tell how a player will pan out. If there was the parity in the NFL would be unimaginable.

Comparing any player to another player past or present is ridiculous. Coaching, learning ability, work ethic are just a few things that matter in player progression. Coples has had too many distractions down there in NC the last year and a half for real. Who's to say he doesn't come in and explode to beast mode? Gholston had not one coach change I believe in his Buckeye career. The coaches and other distractions at NC had a huge effect on a lot of the players down there. Just like you and I, we each will react differently. Coples didn't have a clear head and was confused at times during his Senior season. To me that is not a big deal. He is on to the NEXT level, the level that matters the most in players hearts.

What I am hearing, reading and watching is that everyone in Jet nation is a college prospect expert. I laugh as I have seen the names wanted thrown around here and there and some of those were not factors in the NFL, yet this kid Coples is clearly a dead horse before he even signs his contract? I am confused. I am glad more than half of you are not the Jets GM, lol.

As I am going to give the kid his chance, I would expect the rest of you would as well. Hell, he is a Jet now and that is what matters, he is a Jet now. Rex and company have an idea for the kid, just like Mangini did with Gholston. We all just need to chill and see how it pans out. My money say's he will be a decent to good player.

My head is held high after these picks. As I have stated before, I am all in on what this management team is thinking/doing for the organization. I am a fan. I believe. I would hope you all would as well. :drinks:



All I see is a bunch of excuses, which is exactly what players who dissapear at times make. There is NO EXCUSE for lack of effort. I dont care if he had a different coach every week of his career and the Tar Heels received the Death Penalty from the NCAA, the ONE thing you can ALWAYS control is your effort. So there is no excuse for him having lapses in effort on the field on more than one occassion, so much so that multiple people acknowledge it as a red flag.


All i can say is he BETTER pan out. If he doesn't give effort, he is not worthy of my support and should leave the team, period. Its one thing to be lacking skill, but lacking effort is the one thing that there is no excuse for and should never be tolerated. Sadly it is.


So until he proves otherwise, he is Gholston 2.0
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:30 PM

View PostClemens11, on 28 April 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

All i can say is he BETTER pan out. If he doesn't give effort, he is not worthy of my support and should leave the team, period. Its one thing to be lacking skill, but lacking effort is the one thing that there is no excuse for and should never be tolerated. Sadly it is.


So until he proves otherwise, he is Gholston 2.0


LOL. Maybe it's time for you to find a new team to be a fan of. Your support, no matter what the Jets and Coples end up doing, should never sway if you are a true fan. This vile spew you toss around on this pick is not gonna change things.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:34 PM

View PostDisplacednewyorker, on 28 April 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

LOL. Maybe it's time for you to find a new team to be a fan of. Your support, no matter what the Jets and Coples end up doing, should never sway if you are a true fan. This vile spew you toss around on this pick is not gonna change things.



I wish i could bring myself to like a new team but thats not in my dna. And as a fan, one of many who pays for these guys to play, I have a right to be concerned about the direction of my team. If a guy is a scrub, he is a scrub, i dont care what colors he wears. I am not going to sit here and be a giants fan and say every player on my roster is a pro bowler. i call um as i see um. i support the jets and i want them to win, and to win they cant waste time drafting scrubs, so im allowed to be angry when i think they draft a scrub.

Team above any one player, maybe u should realize that then come back and talk to me. dont tell me how to be a fan cus clearly you have a vision of it that not many share, nor should they. Being a mindless sheep ends up in disaster.I'm not gunna let someone piss on me and just believe them that its rain like u seem to do.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 04:59 AM

View PostClemens11, on 28 April 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

I wish i could bring myself to like a new team but thats not in my dna. And as a fan, one of many who pays for these guys to play, I have a right to be concerned about the direction of my team. If a guy is a scrub, he is a scrub, i dont care what colors he wears. I am not going to sit here and be a giants fan and say every player on my roster is a pro bowler. i call um as i see um. i support the jets and i want them to win, and to win they cant waste time drafting scrubs, so im allowed to be angry when i think they draft a scrub.

Team above any one player, maybe u should realize that then come back and talk to me. dont tell me how to be a fan cus clearly you have a vision of it that not many share, nor should they. Being a mindless sheep ends up in disaster.I'm not gunna let someone piss on me and just believe them that its rain like u seem to do.



You are right. I also believe in this, but I can't call the kid a scrub. He hasn't played a down of NFL football yet. He isn't going to be the reason the Jets have a bad season, and that is fact.

If you thought I was pissing on ya, well, sorry, that's all I can offer ya. Don't take it to heart.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:35 AM

View PostClemens11, on 28 April 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

I wish i could bring myself to like a new team but thats not in my dna. And as a fan, one of many who pays for these guys to play, I have a right to be concerned about the direction of my team. If a guy is a scrub, he is a scrub, i dont care what colors he wears. I am not going to sit here and be a giants fan and say every player on my roster is a pro bowler. i call um as i see um. i support the jets and i want them to win, and to win they cant waste time drafting scrubs, so im allowed to be angry when i think they draft a scrub.

Team above any one player, maybe u should realize that then come back and talk to me. dont tell me how to be a fan cus clearly you have a vision of it that not many share, nor should they. Being a mindless sheep ends up in disaster.I'm not gunna let someone piss on me and just believe them that its rain like u seem to do.


You might want to think about anger management, I'm serious about that.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:15 AM

Well this is enjoyable
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:44 AM

View PostClemens11, on 28 April 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

I wish i could bring myself to like a new team but thats not in my dna. And as a fan, one of many who pays for these guys to play, I have a right to be concerned about the direction of my team. If a guy is a scrub, he is a scrub, i dont care what colors he wears. I am not going to sit here and be a giants fan and say every player on my roster is a pro bowler. i call um as i see um. i support the jets and i want them to win, and to win they cant waste time drafting scrubs, so im allowed to be angry when i think they draft a scrub.

Team above any one player, maybe u should realize that then come back and talk to me. dont tell me how to be a fan cus clearly you have a vision of it that not many share, nor should they. Being a mindless sheep ends up in disaster.I'm not gunna let someone piss on me and just believe them that its rain like u seem to do.


Kellen Clemens?
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 01:58 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 April 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

Kellen Clemens?


Here comes another thesis
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 03:57 PM

Coples might turn out alright after the comments I heard made about his 2010 season. When Butch Davis and the NC staff got fired, Cople was told to take it easy by an agent and no get hurt. He was told he would be in the NFL. With the team in limbo with no supporting staff, he did jus that. He took some plays off. Films of coples in 2010 is totally different than 2011. He got bad advice at the time and that's why you didn't that motor in 2011. Now that he's drafted in the 1st rd, I think he can compete. Coples will not be Gholston part deux. The plot thickens.
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