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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Coples Highlights And Specs

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:37 PM



he can sure hit

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Jets select North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples with No. 16 pick
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Amid a wild start to the NFL draft that included one trade after another, the typically trade-happy Jets uncharacteristically didn’t budge before grabbing one of the most intriguing players on the board. Rex Ryan & Co. selected North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples, widely regarded as the best – and most confounding – pass rusher in the draft with the 16th pick in the first round on Thursday night. The 6-6, 284-pound Coples, whose drawn comparisons to former UNC great Julius Peppers, possesses all the requisite physical tools to thrive, but his decline in production his senior season gave his critics pause for concern.

The Jets weren’t overly concerned. Ryan will use Coples, who had 17 ½ sacks the past two seasons, primarily as a hand-in-the-dirt 3-4 left defensive end rather than a stand-up outside linebacker.

“He’s probably athletic enough to stand up and play linebacker,” Ryan said. “(But) that’s not what we brought him here to do.”

Coples put up eye-popping numbers (10 sacks) as a left defensive tackle in North Carolina’s 4-3 scheme after a pair of defensive lineman were ruled ineligible for accepting cash from agents for the 2010 season by the NCAA. He had an inconsistent senior season when he moved to right defensive end.

Ryan believes that Coples and Muhammad Wilkerson, who were classmates at Hargrave Military Academy in Virginia five years ago, will fortify Gang Greens’ interior pass rush.

“It is a lot harder to rush a passer from a 3-4 end,” Ryan said. “Some guys cause production. I think Quinton and Muhammad both cause production.… It’s tougher down there. We were at our best when we had a guy like Shaun Ellis moving inside and rushing the passer… The old saying was that the tackle’s job was to push the quarterback back and the outside guy’s job is to push the quarterback forward. With this addition, we’ll push that quarterback back a little bit.”

Ryan was impressed with Coples’ athleticism and endurance when he put him through a workout at UNC’s Pro Day.

“Going through all the defensive line drills, he was not winded,” Ryan said. “I wanted to push him. I wanted to see how this guy would compete thru the drills and put him through drills that he wasn’t familiar with, which was linebacker drills… I couldn’t get him tired.”

Ryan likened Coples to Ellis and Trevor Pryce, who succeeded as interior pass rusher for him.

“To get rewarded and be a Jet, it's unbelievable," said Coples, who made a visit to the Jets last week. "(Ryan) told me if I was there at 16, he was going to take me... no matter what."

"I'm just working hard to be the best athlete as possible in the NFL as possible," he added. "I think I'll be great for the Jets."

Although general manager Mike Tannenbaum admitted that he “did field some calls” and did “monitor activity” for a trade up or down, he said he was happy to select Coples when he was available at No. 16 after the Seahawks made a surprise selection at No. 15 be picking pass rusher Bruce Irvin. The Chargers grabbed South Carolina DE/OLB Melvin Ingram, who was linked to the Jets, two picks later. The Patriots traded up later in the round to nab Syracuse defensive end Chandler Jones, who was also on Gang Green’s radar.

The Jets weren’t worried about the perception that Coples has an inconsistent motor and work ethic.

“The thing you have to do is sit down and talk to the kid and find out where his heart is,” said executive vice president of scouting Joey Clinkscales. “You dig as deep as you can. You do as much background work as you can. You find out his level of play through the years. And we were comfortable with that.”

Said Tannenbaum: “It’s about the culture that we collectively built here. We think we’re adding a good player and a good person to our program.”

The NCAA concluded that Coples didn’t commit any violations by attending a draft party for former teammate Marvin Austin in May.

“With everything (going on) around there, he stayed above the fray,” Clinksclaes said. “He never really got into any trouble. This kid stayed clean through all the transition.”

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Pass rush: Good burst off the snap, but his speed and flexibility to dip and rip around the edge as a traditional right defensive end isn't certain. Powerful. Has an excellent bull rush and uses his long arms to keep offensive linemen away from his body to dictate the action. Doesn't possess elite lateral agility or closing speed, but gains ground quickly because of his length. Is a strong drag-down tackler capable of pulling down the quarterback while still engaged with a blocker. Uses his hands well. Features a strong rip move, good swim and anticipation of the cut block, showing the quick hands, feet and balance to sprawl. alert defender who will get his hands up to cloud passing
lanes. Run defense: Lacks the bulk teams are looking for in a three-down defensive tackle. Comes off the snap high but has excellent strength to quickly stand up his opponent. Good hand placement and upper-body strength to stack and shed blocks. Can swim inside, get skinny and beat doubles. Has enough lateral agility and length that running backs can't escape when he's near. Funnels action to teammates. Good lateral agility and balance to play the keys and pursue laterally. Explosion: Explosive strength to rock the offensive lineman back onto his heels. Can generate ferocious hits when he gets some momentum. Strength: Among his best assets. Can easily bull rush most offensive linemen and plow them backward into the pocket. Struggles with leverage when playing defensive tackle and can get pushed off the ball early in the play, but ultimately recovers because of his strength. Tackling: Good drag-down tackler. Can latch on to ballcarriers with just one arm and slow them enough for teammates to clean up the trash. Long arms allow him to "catch" opponents and wrestle them to the ground. Lowers his head too often when making contact. Good effort in lateral pursuit. Will leave his feet and lunge at the ballcarrier, showing the explosiveness to knock his opponent down without wrapping up. Few ballcarriers are able to escape his grasp, long arms and strength. Intangibles: Investigated by the NCAA for attending draft-day parties with former teammates Marvin Austin and Robert Quinn, but was ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing. Added 30 pounds since signing with North Carolina. Immaturity and selfishness apparent when asked to move back inside to defensive tackle in the middle of his senior season; he refused for fear it would hurt his draft stock. NFL Comparison: Julius Peppers, Bears --Rob Rang

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:57 PM

If he can be half the player Peppers was, then this will be up there with the Revis and Mangold picks.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:56 AM

I apologize to Tanny, apparently this was Rex's doing. sorry for blaming you tanny, this is on Rex's head. :banghead:
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:18 AM

Well when Revis, Vilma, and Ferguson were drafted I didn't know anything about them and they turned into Pro Bowlers. I also didn't know anything about Robertson and Gholston (which should've been a clue to me considering he went to Ohio State) either. So I don't know what to make of the Coples pick. I guess all we can do is hope for the best with this one.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 04:06 AM

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Struggles with leverage when playing defensive tackle and can get pushed off the ball early in the play


That trait concerns me if he is going to be playing DE rather than OLB. Neither Mo Wilk nor DeVito get pushed back, whereas Coples sounds more like a finesse-type player. Given who was on the board at the time there are certainly going to be questions asked (not so many as in Seattle though given they took Bruce Irvin!), but we're just going to have to trust the front office's judgement.
Seeing how many ways we could have gone at #16, there was always going to be second guessing. But at least we took somebody expected to go in the top half of the first round for a long time - unlike Miami. And unlike the Seahawks we didn't go for a selection straight out of left field. There are question marks surrounding Coples, but there's plenty of talent there to be worked with. Lets hope he applies himself and helps take the defence to another level.
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