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S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:22 AM) long time no chat, Ya boy has returned from the depths. Good to see everyone alive and well. Another season down the drain... what else is new? Fitz coming back next yr means we wont be going to the superbowl. We seriously need to land a QB. I hope Petty is the future and Im still quietly waiting for Geno to show up. IF they retain him it would speak volumes
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 January 2016 - 11:23 AM) I'm done with Geno. Never really expected much from him from the beginning. So I'm also looking for Petty to be the future.
vjdbbq Icon : (29 January 2016 - 04:33 PM) GENO SUCKS MONKEY DICK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:16 PM) S-Dubb??.Who's that guy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:17 PM) FIRE S-DUBB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Dubb and Amen? Did I take a wrong turn and land back in 2007?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Haha good to see both of you
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:28 PM) I don't care if Cro comes back, I think Marcus Williams can start opposite Revis. Hes a ball hawk and has performed well everytime hes called on.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) I want Fitz back as starter, he lacks arm talent but he is scrappy
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) The team loves him as a leader and he is a good bridge QB as we groom a QB of the future.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He also has top notch pocket awareness.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He allows our playmakers to make plays. After years of terrible QB play, I'll take 31 TD 15 INTs almost 4,000 yards
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 February 2016 - 12:41 AM) I can't stop thinking about the off season...... what the hell are we gonna do!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Maccagnan is going to have to show his worth
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) They can't have Wilkerson on that franchise tag, they have to sign him long term with a small cap hit or trade him. Otherwise we are in trouble with other FAs.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) We need Harrison back, you can't run a effective 3-4 without a stud NT.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:01 AM) I hope we get Harrison back on a 4 yr contract.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:55 PM) I really think we are going to have to tag and trade Wilkerson
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) If we keep wilk we lose Harrison or Fitzpatrick maybe both
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) And ivory
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM) We can't keep Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams. A move has to be made
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) If the Jets want to go cheaper, they can try to trade Wilkerson and have Richardson/Williams for cheap
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Kaepernick apparently wants out of SF and wants to join the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Guess he sees the Jets as a team with a great WR tandem and a quality OC who builds a offense around the players
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) No thanks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) Unless he's dirt cheap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) Marshall said no to Kaepnerick, he wants FItzpatrick as his QB
vjdbbq Icon : (04 February 2016 - 12:07 PM) Where's Rob ? I need some ass shots !!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its crazy how dead this site is
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its super bowl Sunday!!
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:47 PM) Everybody is at Rob's house ; checking out the asses !!!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (07 February 2016 - 05:17 PM) Hope Cotchery gets a ring tonight
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:04 PM) Yeah I would rather see a panther win
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Zzzz
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (07 February 2016 - 09:03 PM) I want to see Manning go out on top
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 06:42 AM) Denver has two future HOF edge rushers with Miller and Ware.
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Coples Highlights And Specs

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:37 PM



he can sure hit

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Jets select North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples with No. 16 pick
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Amid a wild start to the NFL draft that included one trade after another, the typically trade-happy Jets uncharacteristically didn’t budge before grabbing one of the most intriguing players on the board. Rex Ryan & Co. selected North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples, widely regarded as the best – and most confounding – pass rusher in the draft with the 16th pick in the first round on Thursday night. The 6-6, 284-pound Coples, whose drawn comparisons to former UNC great Julius Peppers, possesses all the requisite physical tools to thrive, but his decline in production his senior season gave his critics pause for concern.

The Jets weren’t overly concerned. Ryan will use Coples, who had 17 ½ sacks the past two seasons, primarily as a hand-in-the-dirt 3-4 left defensive end rather than a stand-up outside linebacker.

“He’s probably athletic enough to stand up and play linebacker,” Ryan said. “(But) that’s not what we brought him here to do.”

Coples put up eye-popping numbers (10 sacks) as a left defensive tackle in North Carolina’s 4-3 scheme after a pair of defensive lineman were ruled ineligible for accepting cash from agents for the 2010 season by the NCAA. He had an inconsistent senior season when he moved to right defensive end.

Ryan believes that Coples and Muhammad Wilkerson, who were classmates at Hargrave Military Academy in Virginia five years ago, will fortify Gang Greens’ interior pass rush.

“It is a lot harder to rush a passer from a 3-4 end,” Ryan said. “Some guys cause production. I think Quinton and Muhammad both cause production.… It’s tougher down there. We were at our best when we had a guy like Shaun Ellis moving inside and rushing the passer… The old saying was that the tackle’s job was to push the quarterback back and the outside guy’s job is to push the quarterback forward. With this addition, we’ll push that quarterback back a little bit.”

Ryan was impressed with Coples’ athleticism and endurance when he put him through a workout at UNC’s Pro Day.

“Going through all the defensive line drills, he was not winded,” Ryan said. “I wanted to push him. I wanted to see how this guy would compete thru the drills and put him through drills that he wasn’t familiar with, which was linebacker drills… I couldn’t get him tired.”

Ryan likened Coples to Ellis and Trevor Pryce, who succeeded as interior pass rusher for him.

“To get rewarded and be a Jet, it's unbelievable," said Coples, who made a visit to the Jets last week. "(Ryan) told me if I was there at 16, he was going to take me... no matter what."

"I'm just working hard to be the best athlete as possible in the NFL as possible," he added. "I think I'll be great for the Jets."

Although general manager Mike Tannenbaum admitted that he “did field some calls” and did “monitor activity” for a trade up or down, he said he was happy to select Coples when he was available at No. 16 after the Seahawks made a surprise selection at No. 15 be picking pass rusher Bruce Irvin. The Chargers grabbed South Carolina DE/OLB Melvin Ingram, who was linked to the Jets, two picks later. The Patriots traded up later in the round to nab Syracuse defensive end Chandler Jones, who was also on Gang Green’s radar.

The Jets weren’t worried about the perception that Coples has an inconsistent motor and work ethic.

“The thing you have to do is sit down and talk to the kid and find out where his heart is,” said executive vice president of scouting Joey Clinkscales. “You dig as deep as you can. You do as much background work as you can. You find out his level of play through the years. And we were comfortable with that.”

Said Tannenbaum: “It’s about the culture that we collectively built here. We think we’re adding a good player and a good person to our program.”

The NCAA concluded that Coples didn’t commit any violations by attending a draft party for former teammate Marvin Austin in May.

“With everything (going on) around there, he stayed above the fray,” Clinksclaes said. “He never really got into any trouble. This kid stayed clean through all the transition.”

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Pass rush: Good burst off the snap, but his speed and flexibility to dip and rip around the edge as a traditional right defensive end isn't certain. Powerful. Has an excellent bull rush and uses his long arms to keep offensive linemen away from his body to dictate the action. Doesn't possess elite lateral agility or closing speed, but gains ground quickly because of his length. Is a strong drag-down tackler capable of pulling down the quarterback while still engaged with a blocker. Uses his hands well. Features a strong rip move, good swim and anticipation of the cut block, showing the quick hands, feet and balance to sprawl. alert defender who will get his hands up to cloud passing
lanes. Run defense: Lacks the bulk teams are looking for in a three-down defensive tackle. Comes off the snap high but has excellent strength to quickly stand up his opponent. Good hand placement and upper-body strength to stack and shed blocks. Can swim inside, get skinny and beat doubles. Has enough lateral agility and length that running backs can't escape when he's near. Funnels action to teammates. Good lateral agility and balance to play the keys and pursue laterally. Explosion: Explosive strength to rock the offensive lineman back onto his heels. Can generate ferocious hits when he gets some momentum. Strength: Among his best assets. Can easily bull rush most offensive linemen and plow them backward into the pocket. Struggles with leverage when playing defensive tackle and can get pushed off the ball early in the play, but ultimately recovers because of his strength. Tackling: Good drag-down tackler. Can latch on to ballcarriers with just one arm and slow them enough for teammates to clean up the trash. Long arms allow him to "catch" opponents and wrestle them to the ground. Lowers his head too often when making contact. Good effort in lateral pursuit. Will leave his feet and lunge at the ballcarrier, showing the explosiveness to knock his opponent down without wrapping up. Few ballcarriers are able to escape his grasp, long arms and strength. Intangibles: Investigated by the NCAA for attending draft-day parties with former teammates Marvin Austin and Robert Quinn, but was ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing. Added 30 pounds since signing with North Carolina. Immaturity and selfishness apparent when asked to move back inside to defensive tackle in the middle of his senior season; he refused for fear it would hurt his draft stock. NFL Comparison: Julius Peppers, Bears --Rob Rang

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:57 PM

If he can be half the player Peppers was, then this will be up there with the Revis and Mangold picks.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:56 AM

I apologize to Tanny, apparently this was Rex's doing. sorry for blaming you tanny, this is on Rex's head. :banghead:
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:18 AM

Well when Revis, Vilma, and Ferguson were drafted I didn't know anything about them and they turned into Pro Bowlers. I also didn't know anything about Robertson and Gholston (which should've been a clue to me considering he went to Ohio State) either. So I don't know what to make of the Coples pick. I guess all we can do is hope for the best with this one.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 04:06 AM

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Struggles with leverage when playing defensive tackle and can get pushed off the ball early in the play


That trait concerns me if he is going to be playing DE rather than OLB. Neither Mo Wilk nor DeVito get pushed back, whereas Coples sounds more like a finesse-type player. Given who was on the board at the time there are certainly going to be questions asked (not so many as in Seattle though given they took Bruce Irvin!), but we're just going to have to trust the front office's judgement.
Seeing how many ways we could have gone at #16, there was always going to be second guessing. But at least we took somebody expected to go in the top half of the first round for a long time - unlike Miami. And unlike the Seahawks we didn't go for a selection straight out of left field. There are question marks surrounding Coples, but there's plenty of talent there to be worked with. Lets hope he applies himself and helps take the defence to another level.
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