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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:20 PM) Anyway go Hawks
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:21 PM) Why the Seahawks aren't very good this year. They have 22 or 24 undrafted players on their roster because they had to let hallf or over half of their team go from last year because of having to pay so much to certain star players
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:21 PM) No team with that many undrafted players on the roster is going to be good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) I'm talking about the defense
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) So they have an excuse
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) How many starters are back from last year?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:23 PM) They had to let defensive players go too. And that's why they refused to pay Chancellor. They don't have the money
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) Most of the Defense is back from last season.. who besides the 2nd CB do they not have?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) I don't know how many starters. I didn't look through the whole active roster from last year to this year. But I know they let a good many starters go too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:25 PM) Anyway we need them to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) it puts us in a 4 way tie for the WC
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) Maybe Hou can win the division
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) They had to let a corner and safety go from the defense and some dline from the starting line up. And some players on the online too
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:27 PM) That's why Russel isn't getting protection and Lynch is having a down year
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:28 PM) Yeah but you need to chr
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:29 PM) check my list of tiebreakers we are down in division and conference games. If the Jets don't beat the Bills and win most of the conference games no playoffs
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:31 PM) Plus we are down in schedule strength to everyone in the hunt for the playoffs except Houston but they have the win and tiebreaker against the Jets
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:32 PM) Oh and also the Bills are below us in schedule strength but have a win against us so have tiebreaker for now
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:33 PM) Chiefs have the easy schedule in the league got the rest of the season so chances of them not getting in are slim
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) Chiefs and Stelers are in the drivers seat
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) Right but there is a lot of games to go still
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) who knows maybe we beat Tenn NYG Dal and Buf
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 10-6?? Maybe
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 1 game at a time I agree
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) KC and Oakland have to play each other twice
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:38 PM) Pitt Still has to play Cinn and Denver
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Who they may beat.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) We just need Sea to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Game over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Hawks win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) Well if they make the PAT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) My bad I thought Pitt had 0 timeouts left
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:46 PM) I don't trust Denver against any good team with their backup qb in. I except the Chiefs to overtake the division. They really don't trust him either since an injured Manning is the #2 qb. He barely won last week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Ben is hurt now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Don't think its anything big tho
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:48 PM) But Steelers losing today and if they lose against the Bengals would help
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:55 PM) Ben has a possible concussion
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) And Pitt plays Indy next week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 PM) If Pittsburgh lose it help if indy lose Houston might be in 1st and have a tie breaker over indy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 PM) I just can't wait for Sunday. Me and my brother are going to the game. He's a giants fan. So somebody is going home mad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Where is frosty??.and his MIGHTY DOLPHINS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) Marshall is 70 yards away from being our 1st 1000 yard receiver since cotch in 07
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) f*** new England!! And gronk is hurt
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) Nice to see the Pats won't have an undefeated season. That said the wheat her made the difference. Brady is accurate as heck and the snow affected the pass timing with the wr's
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) Without the snow I couldn't see the Broncos winning that game. But again great to see the Pats chance at a perfect season go down the tubes
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:00 AM

We've read a lot about Coples already, one thing is for sure...he is a polarizing pick for Jets fans. I'll just say this, the Gholston comparisons are misguided. Gholston was never a football player, he was a fitness model. Coples can play, the question with his work ethic is if he can play all the time. Keep in mind two things:

1 - He posted 55 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, and 7.5 sacks his senior year. For most prospects that is a great year that vaults you into the first round. But since Coples notched 59 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, and 10 sacks in his junior year playing DT for a depleted line...most assumed Coples would post ridiculously higher numbers his senior year playing DE. Success is equal to expectation...

Was his disappointing senior year a product of UNC scandal and coaching changes, or is he a better interior pass rusher? Which is a role Rex envisions for his new 3-4 DE...

2 - In a UNC scandal that seemed to affect every big time prospect at UNC, Coples apparently avoided temptation and didn't get wrapped up in any of the scandal.


So basically, the Jets four big holes of OLB, OL, WR, and S have gone untouched on the first day of the draft. Though, as Rex said, Coples will hopefully help create production for someone else.


There are still plenty of second round values at the OLB position, namely Courtney Upshaw, Andre Branch, and Vinny Curry. But, there are also some guys available in the 3rd - 4th range like Cam Johnson, Olivier Vernon, and Ronnell Lewis. Overall, I don't think the Jets have to get an OLB in the second round. It would be nice in the third, but still not a necessity as they have starters...the same of which cannot be said for Safety and Right Tackle.


The two top rated safeties, Mark Barron and Harrison Smith, are gone...and the drop off is steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. I can't imagine the Jets would look to fill this hole in the second, or possibly even third round. But, after that, there are several prospects who have that steal potential. Starting with George Iloka and Brandon Taylor, and later looking at Markelle Martin, Duke Ihenacho, Trumaine Johnson, and Tony Dye.

Offensive Line

Cordy Glenn is the biggest name left, and he figures to go early in the second round. After him the pickings get slim. Mike Adams, Bobby Massie, and Jonathon Martin all have more questions than I'd feel comfortable drafting this early. But, in the third round there could be some interesting players like Cal's Mitchell Schwartz, who won't ever be elite, but can be an above average tackle for years.

Wide Receiver

Arguably the deepest position in this draft, there are good prospects in every round, so let's just rattle off the list...Rueben Randle, Ryan Broyles, Alshon Jeffrey, Mohamed Sanu, Brian Quick, Tommy Streeter, Nick Toon, Marvin McNutt, Marvin Jones, TY Hilton, Travis Benjamin, Devon Wylie, Dwight Jones, and maybe some late round pick like Stephen Hill.

Honestly, I hope the Jets take two WR's in this draft.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

Always good stuff my man.

Cam Johnson in the 3rd would be a very nice pick, good shout. I like Jonathan Martin and Mike Adams enough to definitely take them here in the second round, and I also would wait on a WR. 3rd or 4th round, then 6th round... and we could walk away with two players who can/will make the roster easily.

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