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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:27 PM

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:30 PM

I'd like to counter his argument with this little point: The Bills are one hit away from starting Vince Young. Thanxkbye.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:28 PM

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not to mention the dubious decision to draft a 4-3 defensive end to play in their 3-4 front (Quinton Coples)


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This statement is as dumb as people blaming Gholston being a bust because he was converted to OLB. If Coples sucks, its his fault not the scheme. Rex will put him in position to rush the passer, the Jets play plenty of 4 man fronts and rarely are in a traditional 3-4. He played DT in college, so he knows how to take on double teams and how to create interior pressure.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 09:55 PM

The league tries hard to push the Bills-but only sort of hard because it isn't like they are GB (a small town team that does things right and wins). Adding one guy isn't going to turn them into a better team. Last year them signing Brad Smith got press like it was a real move.

The Bills aren't any good. Their QB is a career backup who can play pretty well at times but isn't someone who should be starting on a regular basis. They have a very solid RB and a receiver who is talented but mentally handicapped. If the Bills had a legitimate starting QB I'd be worried about them, but the team in general is nothing special.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 10:04 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 16 May 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

The league tries hard to push the Bills-but only sort of hard because it isn't like they are GB (a small town team that does things right and wins). Adding one guy isn't going to turn them into a better team. Last year them signing Brad Smith got press like it was a real move.

The Bills aren't any good. Their QB is a career backup who can play pretty well at times but isn't someone who should be starting on a regular basis. They have a very solid RB and a receiver who is talented but mentally handicapped. If the Bills had a legitimate starting QB I'd be worried about them, but the team in general is nothing special.


when their run game was solid they were successful when that tapered off so did the team

if fred has a similar year and their defense with mario on board starts smashing qbs they could make some noise
but probably still come up very short for a playoff birth
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:16 AM

View Postsantana, on 16 May 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

when their run game was solid they were successful when that tapered off so did the team



That sounds familiar.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 06:44 AM

View PostA1elbow, on 16 May 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

The league tries hard to push the Bills-but only sort of hard because it isn't like they are GB (a small town team that does things right and wins). Adding one guy isn't going to turn them into a better team. Last year them signing Brad Smith got press like it was a real move.

The Bills aren't any good. Their QB is a career backup who can play pretty well at times but isn't someone who should be starting on a regular basis. They have a very solid RB and a receiver who is talented but mentally handicapped. If the Bills had a legitimate starting QB I'd be worried about them, but the team in general is nothing special.

You make it sound like we have a stable and reliable QB situation ourselves. Not saying they will be really good or not but I certainly think by adding Williams and Anderson and on paper a very solid draft, they sgould not be taken lightly. Everything plays out on the field but the Jet moves are curious at best. May turn out great but are a cause for wonder.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:26 AM

The Bills went 6-10 last year with two wins over playoff teams and something like eight losses to teams that didn't make the playoffs. They started the season 5-2 with one win over a playoff team and four over teams that didn't. During their 1-78 season ending crap spree they lost by less than a touchdown twice and their average margin of loss was more than two touchdowns. The Bills stunk last season and they are going to stink again this season. The Jets and Dolphins are far from perfect but the Bills will finish in fourth, again, because they have no actual talent and what is their is overrated too try and keep the small market team relevant.

View Postchocomag, on 17 May 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

You make it sound like we have a stable and reliable QB situation ourselves. Not saying they will be really good or not but I certainly think by adding Williams and Anderson and on paper a very solid draft, they sgould not be taken lightly. Everything plays out on the field but the Jet moves are curious at best. May turn out great but are a cause for wonder.


Cause I referenced the Jets in my post.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:46 AM

View PostA1elbow, on 17 May 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

Cause I referenced the Jets in my post.

The Bills went 6-10 last year with two wins over playoff teams and something like eight losses to teams that didn't make the playoffs. They started the season 5-2 with one win over a playoff team and four over teams that didn't. During their 1-78 season ending crap spree they lost by less than a touchdown twice and their average margin of loss was more than two touchdowns. The Bills stunk last season and they are going to stink again this season. The Jets and Dolphins are far from perfect but the Bills will finish in fourth, again, because they have no actual talent and what is their is overrated too try and keep the small market team relevant.


I still think the bills and fins will both suck. our division isn't that good. the pats are still dominent as they have ben for the past 10 years but the fins and bills still suck. no reason we can't get at least a wild card spot. indy sucks now so houston will take that division. pats will take ours probably and the steelers ravens will btoh make it, denver will probably take their division so we have to fight the chargers for a 6th seed/ shouldn't be hard
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:46 AM

View PostA1elbow, on 17 May 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:

The league tries hard to push the Bills-but only sort of hard because it isn't like they are GB (a small town team that does things right and wins). Adding one guy isn't going to turn them into a better team. Last year them signing Brad Smith got press like it was a real move.

The Bills aren't any good. Their QB is a career backup who can play pretty well at times but isn't someone who should be starting on a regular basis. They have a very solid RB and a receiver who is talented but mentally handicapped. If the Bills had a legitimate starting QB I'd be worried about them, but the team in general is nothing special.


Agreed. Fitzpatrick started out great but fizzled out completely during the second half of last season (it virtually coincided with him signing his new contract. For some reason the downturn in his form did not get half as much attention as when he was playing great. He is a good, serviceable QB, but nothing special. And with the OLine that will be in front of him this year - no Demetrius Bell - I can't see their offense taking the kind of huge leap forward that they needed; having Fred Jackson healthy the whole season would help them, but it's not as if he takes them from being a good offense to being great.
Defensively, signing Williams and drafting Gilmore made them better - with Mario next to Marcell Dareus they've got the makings of a stout D Line, but they've still got weaknesses elsewhere on that side of the ball, namely linebacker.
Saying that, it is no tonic to us because the AFC East is still very much the Pats' division. Like the Bills, we've made some strides this offseason towards getting better, but question marks still remain. We can challenge New England - we showed that during Rex's first two seasons in charge. But if either us - or the Bills - are going to challenge them for the division title, we're going to have to iron out the inconsistencies that remain.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:24 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 17 May 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

I still think the bills and fins will both suck. our division isn't that good. the pats are still dominent as they have ben for the past 10 years but the fins and bills still suck. no reason we can't get at least a wild card spot. indy sucks now so houston will take that division. pats will take ours probably and the steelers ravens will btoh make it, denver will probably take their division so we have to fight the chargers for a 6th seed/ shouldn't be hard


We are better than the Dolphins, but they have a new coach who probably isn't going to be anything special and we have a HC I'm not particularly in love with and we have a lot of potential for locker room issues so I'm not sold on us being that much better than the Dolphins. If we were only two or three games better last season and we haven't separated ourselves from them that much, it wouldn't take a lot for them to post a better record this season.

However, the Bills shouldn't of even been 6-10 last year, so I don't see how they finish ahead of any team in the division.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:44 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 17 May 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

We are better than the Dolphins, but they have a new coach who probably isn't going to be anything special and we have a HC I'm not particularly in love with and we have a lot of potential for locker room issues so I'm not sold on us being that much better than the Dolphins. If we were only two or three games better last season and we haven't separated ourselves from them that much, it wouldn't take a lot for them to post a better record this season.

However, the Bills shouldn't of even been 6-10 last year, so I don't see how they finish ahead of any team in the division.


we have more talent. we just lost the teamwork. if we can get that back we are a 10-12 win team easily. who does miami really have. plus remember they lost their starting QB and might be starting a rookie and their best WR (traded to chicago)
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 03:09 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 17 May 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

we have more talent. we just lost the teamwork. if we can get that back we are a 10-12 win team easily. who does miami really have. plus remember they lost their starting QB and might be starting a rookie and their best WR (traded to chicago)


I haven't seen anything to suggest that we've "figured" anything out. Ryan is still boasting (only he isn't guaranteeing SBs), still giving out jobs and roles (really, Hill and Coples are already starters-maybe they could at least spend a week or two with the team before earning that), and Holmes sounds like the same idiot who did whatever he wanted all last year. And Tebow.

Hopefully we'll see a different team next year, but I'm not getting my hopes up that we are an "easy" 10 win team in a division that already has a top dog.

Anyway, every team has stuff to figure out every year. Good teams try to do it during the season, bad ones wait till the next year. What did we have to figure out last year? Offensive play calling, Sanchez, RT, pass rush and safety. How many of those did we address?
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