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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Tone Feels Overworked In Otas Suffered a hamstring injury

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:12 PM

Here we go this guy has to stop this shit!!


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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- New York Jets wide receiver Santonio Holmes, who missed a handful of voluntary practice sessions while out of the country on a good-will trip to a U.S. Air Force base in Germany, pulled himself out of practice Thursday because he felt he was being overworked.

Near the end of the two-hour workout, Holmes limped off the field and tossed his helmet, seemingly out of frustration. He spoke to receivers coach Sanjay Lal and also spent time with the trainer. Afterward, Holmes insisted he wasn't injured, but he still seemed bothered.

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"I was talking to the coach, letting him understand it was too many reps today," Holmes said. "I've been gone for a while, so I can't be at full tempo like the rest of the guys and where they want us to be at."

Holmes said he was slated for 35 practice reps, but left after 20 or 25. The Jets wrapped up their OTA workouts, with a mandatory minicamp scheduled for next week.

The irony, of course, is that Holmes had to be pulled out of the Jets' final game, in the final minutes of the season-ending loss to the Miami Dolphins. Holmes was frustrated by his lack of involvement in the offense -- he had no receptions -- and complained in the huddle, nearly coming to blows with right tackle Wayne Hunter.

That was the seminal moment of the Jets' well-chronicled season of turmoil, much of which involved Holmes and quarterback Mark Sanchez.

After a tumultuous couple of months, the team is trying to rebuild its chemistry. Holmes took another positive step this week by declaring that he will attend Sanchez's "Jets West" passing camp in the coming weeks at the high school in Mission Viejo, Calif., that the quarterback attended.

Holmes was at "Jets West" in 2010, but skipped last year's camp because he was unsigned at the time. Even though he's not team captain anymore, Holmes feels he needs to be there because he still sees himself as a team leader.

"Being out there is going to give the young guys a sense of security, knowing we have our veteran, we have our leader here with us, who's going to help us and get us on the same page," Holmes said. "I think all of us doing the same thing at the same time will be a great chemistry builder."

Coach Rex Ryan has all but admitted he made a bad decision by making Holmes a captain. In fact, Ryan said he no longer will have team captains.

Holmes is the elder statesman of a young receiving corps, which includes a likely rookie starter, Stephen Hill, so he's trying to show the way.

But he admittedly still isn't in top shape.

"I'm at OTA No. 5," he said. "I've got lot of catching up to do for myself."

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:15 PM

Per ESPN
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:33 PM

That article is full of half truths, especially the title. He just got off from a USO tour so he's not up to speed with his conditioning. End of story.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:43 PM

I'll give Tone credit for being gone, but as a professional player, wouldn't you think that 20-25 reps wouldn't kill you? I mean, you should be in top shape all year long, imho. That being said,I consider this a non issue at this point.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:45 PM

I don't want to overreact to something like this, I don't know the full story. I don't like taking the media for their word, they like to make things sound worse than it really is.

If Holmes has another season like the last one, then I will be pissed at him.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 03:47 PM

He's likely Jet lagged and exhausted. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 05:08 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 10 June 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

He's likely Jet lagged and exhausted. I wouldn't worry about it.


I was gonna say his gold chain is wearing him down, but you offer a better explanation.

I would be sick of being a Jet as long as he has too.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 06:11 PM

You have to give the guy credit. He took himself out of practice because he is out of shape and admitted it. He knows he has work to do both on and off the field to make up for the drama last year - at least looks as though hes moving in the right direction. Despite the slight tilt in the other direction the media is portraying, I'd have to see this as a non-issue at this point, and maybe even more of a positive note.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:30 PM

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Holmes suffered his hamstring injury last week, when he made headlines by pulling himself out of practice. He was criticized for it, but the injury was legit. Jets head coach Rex Ryan said veteran players know when something doesn't feel right. Holmes was inactive for a while after a trip to Germany to visit troops.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:07 PM

exactly. if it was a game i'd be pissed but its an voluntary practice and i'd hate for him to hurt himself during one
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:21 PM

So I know there has already been a lot of discussion about Holmes having pulled himself out of practice and maybe having a tweaked hamstring but I think its worth discussing if the USO tour is a valid excuse for being out of shape. How long was he on tour for? And shouldn't he as a professional have thought ahead and spent his off-season maybe training a little harder so he wouldn't have lost as large a step over-seas?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:58 PM

View PostNYJETSFAN1, on 12 June 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

So I know there has already been a lot of discussion about Holmes having pulled himself out of practice and maybe having a tweaked hamstring but I think its worth discussing if the USO tour is a valid excuse for being out of shape. How long was he on tour for? And shouldn't he as a professional have thought ahead and spent his off-season maybe training a little harder so he wouldn't have lost as large a step over-seas?



Its voluntary workouts, if your not working out for a couple of weeks you lose some stamina no matter how hard you previously trained, and he scheduled the tour in the offseason so i have no problem with it. Its June, we have months until the season, he will be fine.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:17 PM

View PostNYJETSFAN1, on 12 June 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

So I know there has already been a lot of discussion about Holmes having pulled himself out of practice and maybe having a tweaked hamstring but I think its worth discussing if the USO tour is a valid excuse for being out of shape. How long was he on tour for? And shouldn't he as a professional have thought ahead and spent his off-season maybe training a little harder so he wouldn't have lost as large a step over-seas?



We're still around six weeks away from the start of training camp. I don't think we should start to overreact over this.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:15 PM

I don't see anyone panicking. I see people questioning Holmes work ethic. Can you blame anyone for that? NO. He brought it on himself considering how he was last season with his own teammates saying he was half-a$sing it during practice and during games. The only good thing is that this is likely because he is admitting that he's been a lazy fvck during the off season and didn't maintain conditioning and even calls himself the #5 receiver at this point because everyone else is in better shape. He claims its because of his USO tour but we all know that's bull$hit. 20-25 reps & he's wasted as a pro? Really? And he thinks of himself as a #1 WR. ROFLMAO. I'm waiting to see how many games he loses for us this year by half-as$ing it again.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 02:06 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 16 June 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

I don't see anyone panicking. I see people questioning Holmes work ethic. Can you blame anyone for that? NO. He brought it on himself considering how he was last season with his own teammates saying he was half-a$sing it during practice and during games. The only good thing is that this is likely because he is admitting that he's been a lazy fvck during the off season and didn't maintain conditioning and even calls himself the #5 receiver at this point because everyone else is in better shape. He claims its because of his USO tour but we all know that's bull$hit. 20-25 reps & he's wasted as a pro? Really? And he thinks of himself as a #1 WR. ROFLMAO. I'm waiting to see how many games he loses for us this year by half-as$ing it again.



Cus he didnt also have a hamstring injury or anyhting. :sterb041:
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 09:55 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 16 June 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

I don't see anyone panicking. I see people questioning Holmes work ethic. Can you blame anyone for that? NO. He brought it on himself considering how he was last season with his own teammates saying he was half-a$sing it during practice and during games. The only good thing is that this is likely because he is admitting that he's been a lazy fvck during the off season and didn't maintain conditioning and even calls himself the #5 receiver at this point because everyone else is in better shape. He claims its because of his USO tour but we all know that's bull$hit. 20-25 reps & he's wasted as a pro? Really? And he thinks of himself as a #1 WR. ROFLMAO. I'm waiting to see how many games he loses for us this year by half-as$ing it again.


Actually, they say hes been working hard out there. He injured his hamstring and he didn't do team drills during the minicamp because of his hamstring.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 07:20 PM

No panicking here, just analyzing Holmes ability to bounce back from scrutiny at the end of last year. For what it's worth, here ( http://bit.ly/KFysMc ) is a pretty good article at Jets101 talking about what Holmes did to get ready this off season and his attending the Jets West camp. Pretty good stuff.
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